FBI scheduling interviews with 6 lawmakers who encouraged military members to refuse 'illegal orders'

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They can use grand jury subpoenas and search warrants.

What is the crime and when are they being indicted?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sounds like a possible criminal conspiracy. Let's see what a grand jury finds.

What grand jury? What is the crime?

 

[DonGlock26]

What is the crime and when are they being indicted?

I've already explained the possible crime.

That's up to a grand jury, the FBI, and/or military prosecutors./

 

[DonGlock26]

What grand jury? What is the crime?

"18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States​

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If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)"

18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[dblack]

How's the circle jerk coming?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well yes, that is what taking the fifth is.

Simple question: Why did they not invite a single Republican to join them, when there are so many never Trumpers in the legislature?

Doesn't make it a crime on its face. But it merits an investigation. Instead of crying over it, they should cooperate so they don't look guilty.

Nope. wrong again, Matlock wannabe! You only take the 5th when testifying under oath, and they cannot make them do that. Remember Miranda rights? You have the right to remain silent. Does that ring a bell?

They do not have to say anything if they are being accused of a crime. Have a nice day!

 

[Seymour Flops]

Agreed, but again, not criminal or even illegal.

That is for the jury to decide, if the decision is made to prosecute after the investigation is concluded.

You are jumping the gun making that conclusion.

You get the death penalty for invoking your military rank for political purposes? That's about the only thing they could get him on, that is why I said he might get a letter of reprimand at worst.

Why would he get a letter of reprimand?

The military doesn't do plea bargains.

Sure it does. Ever heard of an Article 15? I know you were not really in service, but I think the Navy calls it "Captain's Mast," but it is in Article 15 of the UCMJ.

TYVM.

???

Why would he do so anyway when the worst they can do is rollup the paper and stick him in the eye with it?

We're debating, so let's use correct terms, not whatever that is.

I am saying they don't have to do shit without a warrant.

Yes, he doesn't have to. But he might as part of the deal.

In regard to public records, you are right, but don't you think someone has already checked?

I don't know that they haven't. I would suspect that they communicated by private email, so that will take some time to ferret out.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

"18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States​

• U.S. Code
• Notes

prev | next
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)"

18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

www.law.cornell.edu

That has no bearing on what they did! Where is the offense or fraud? Where is your evidence? The video is not it!

 

[DonGlock26]

How's the circle jerk coming?

I believe they completed the act and posted a video of it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Nope. wrong again, Matlock wannabe! You only take the 5th when testifying under oath, and they cannot make them do that. Remember Miranda rights? You have the right to remain silent. Does that ring a bell?

I don't mind that you are ignorant. But the miracle to me is that you brag about it.

What allows a person to refuse to talk to police, when he is not under oath? The 5th Amendment. That's what Miranda rights are based on (along with the 6th). Did you think we have Miranda rights because the USSC just decided with do, without reference to the Constitution?

They do not have to say anything if they are being accused of a crime. Have a nice day!

Correct, but if they want a deal, they will sing. I don't look for Mark Kelly to stand up to a jail term to protect his fellow Democrats.

 

[DonGlock26]

That has no bearing on what they did! Where is the offense or fraud? Where is your evidence? The video is not it!

How so?

The investigation uncovers the evidence. You have to give the FBI and grand juries time to work.
The DOJ/FBI and War Department are hard at work, I can assure you.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That is for the jury to decide, if the decision is made to prosecute after the investigation is concluded.

You are jumping the gun making that conclusion.

Why would he get a letter of reprimand?

Sure it does. Ever heard of an Article 15? I know you were not really in service, but I think the Navy calls it "Captain's Mast," but it is in Article 15 of the UCMJ.

???

We're debating, so let's use correct terms, not whatever that is.

Yes, he doesn't have to. But he might as part of the deal.

I don't know that they haven't. I would suspect that they communicated by private email, so that will take some time to ferret out.

What is the crime according to what you are going to present to a grand jury? You don't have one!

An article 15 is essentially a misdemeanor. Did you forget that I was a naval officer?

There are no plea deals in the military. Again, stated for possible penetration. You watch too much TV.

 

[kyzr]

So, their intent was to make military officers and CIA officers question the authority of their command structure and the President.

Actually I think they were trying to get the grunts to question their orders, totally shattering the chain-of-command.

 

[DonGlock26]

Actually I think they were trying to get the grunts to question their orders, totally shattering the chain-of-command.

That and possibly leak secrets about US military and CIA operations to the media.
This is just another part of the Democrats' resistance to Trump's 2nd term.

 

[Winco]

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tick-tick-tick-tick-tick

And it will be good.

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You got them.
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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I don't mind that you are ignorant. But the miracle to me is that you brag about it.

What allows a person to refuse to talk to police, when he is not under oath? The 5th Amendment. That's what Miranda rights are based on (along with the 6th). Did you think we have Miranda rights because the USSC just decided with do, without reference to the Constitution?


Correct, but if they want a deal, they will sing. I don't look for Mark Kelly to stand up to a jail term to protect his fellow Democrats.

Exactly, but Miranda rights exist prior to being placed under oath because you do not ever have to testify against yourself. You accuse me of being ignorant, yet you are making assumptions left and right about shit you know nothing about. How many article 15s have you attended?

Why should they deal if you have no case? You can't even lay out the crime they are being accused of correctly because you don't know.

 

[Winco]

What is the crime and when are they being indicted?

It's really simple and obvious.
The (R) congress is full of CUCKS, and they have learned that supporting trump is a life line and opposing trump is a death sentence.

It's SAD that YOUR (R) party has fallen to this lying con man fraud.
You KNOW I'm right.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How so?

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The investigation uncovers the evidence. You have to give the FBI and grand juries time to work.
The DOJ/FBI and War Department are hard at work, I can assure you.

Where is their intent to overthrow the government by force? It is pathetic that you have nothing and are grasping at straws. You are an embarrassment to conservatives as much as these attempts at lawfare when there is no case, just like the Democrats tried against Trump.

 

[bdtex]

Sen. Gallego said it best:

"...And Secretary Hegseth, all these guys — f— you guys..."

Sen. Ruben Gallego goes off on ‘coward’ Pete Hegseth over Mark Kelly investigation

Sen. Mark Kelly’s fellow Arizonan tore into War Secretary Pete Hegseth Monday after the Pentagon announced it was probing “serious allegations of misconduct” after Kelly.

nypost.com

 

[Robert W]

It's really simple and obvious.
The (R) congress is full of CUCKS, and they have learned that supporting trump is a life line and opposing trump is a death sentence.

It's SAD that YOUR (R) party has fallen to this lying con man fraud.
You KNOW I'm right.

WINCO as normal for him tries to knock out
Trump with fake news. He does not need to ask me what is fake since calling him out for all of his fake news.