Favorite Service Rifle

[heil hitler]

I only included the service rifles of modernized or large militaries. Since countries have multiple services rifles, I only included their latest model unless it is in limited service. The poll has the origin countries in parentheses, although most of these were adopted by other countries as well.

I didn't include many due to limited options, so don't complain that I missed one.

I chose the FN-FAL as it is the best on the list, but the best period is the HK G3. The one below is the sniper version (though it is all modular) G3SG1.

That's cooo. Dem deutschen volke sure do make some nice plinkers.

 

[Onyx]

Yes, the FAMAS is shit. But the Aug is not much better. After ten minutes of sustained fire they melt. I used to own a full auto example and it was shit. Fine for slow fire, but the second you start laying down some fire it's toast. Literally.

Firing any weapon for ten minutes without pause will cause it to cook off. I am also assuming you owned a civilian version.

Those transitioning from conventional rifles to bullpup often have a lot of difficulty. It's like teaching a driver to go from automatic to stick shift.

 

[westwall]

Yes, the FAMAS is shit. But the Aug is not much better. After ten minutes of sustained fire they melt. I used to own a full auto example and it was shit. Fine for slow fire, but the second you start laying down some fire it's toast. Literally.

Firing any weapon for ten minutes without pause will cause it to cook off. I am also assuming you owned a civilian version.

Those transitioning from conventional rifles to bullpup often have a lot of difficulty. It's like teaching a driver to go from automatic to stick shift.

I'm not talking about cooking off. And no, the G3 won't. I'm talking melting, as in the damned plastic housing melted around where the cross bolt that retains the action in the housing got so hot it melted the plastic housing around it and welded it in place. I had to take a dremel to it to break it loose so I could clean it. Like I said, the AUG is fine for slow fire, but sustained fire is a sure fire way to wreck it.


I've been shooting firearms for longer than you've been alive, and I have no problem with bullpup designs. In fact I quite like them, but the AUG is a poor example of the design.

 

[Onyx]

I'm talking melting, as in the damned plastic housing melted around where the cross bolt that retains the action in the housing got so hot it melted the plastic housing around it and welded it in place. I had to take a dremel to it to break it loose so I could clean it. Like I said, the AUG is fine for slow fire, but sustained fire is a sure fire way to wreck it.

Were you using a civilian variant?

 

[westwall]

I'm talking melting, as in the damned plastic housing melted around where the cross bolt that retains the action in the housing got so hot it melted the plastic housing around it and welded it in place. I had to take a dremel to it to break it loose so I could clean it. Like I said, the AUG is fine for slow fire, but sustained fire is a sure fire way to wreck it.

Were you using a civilian variant?

No, I was using a standard military spec AUG.

 

[Onyx]

No, I was using a standard military spec AUG.

Which military version? There are 16 variants of the Steyr Aug that have been utilized for military use.

I'm just trying to understand whether it was an earlier model, because I doubt such a huge design flaw would still exist after 40 years.

 

[westwall]

No, I was using a standard military spec AUG.

Which military version? There are 16 variants of the Steyr Aug that have been utilized for military use.

I'm just trying to understand whether it was an earlier model, because I doubt such a huge design flaw would still exist after 40 years.

No, they are all based on the same housing. All that changes are the barrels, and they also have 9mm conversion kits that you can install. Later on they came up with various STANAG and Picatinny rail mods that could be either retrofitted, or new construction housings to replace existing, but the basic action is the same for almost all of the "models".
Below is the original configuration and below that is one of the new made rail receivers. Mine was a transferable (NFA paperwork, in other words a legal machinegun) model and I had all four of these barrels, plus a 9mm conversion kit.