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Fauci's trail-enjoy.
- Thread starter Ray9
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The Left Media will paint an entirely different picture......
And every Leftist CNN binge watcher will believe it.
I've been saying that until we stop the media, we will have no nation for some time now and like my comments on Facebook and Twitter in years past, not a soul will listen.
Not to be arrogant, but the proof is in the posts, I'm usually 2 - 4 years ahead of "the pack"
And as always, right on cue, expect the marxist laughing hyenas on the Left to ridicule facts.
And every Leftist CNN binge watcher will believe it.
I've been saying that until we stop the media, we will have no nation for some time now and like my comments on Facebook and Twitter in years past, not a soul will listen.
Not to be arrogant, but the proof is in the posts, I'm usually 2 - 4 years ahead of "the pack"
And as always, right on cue, expect the marxist laughing hyenas on the Left to ridicule facts.
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Are you proud of violating TO
This is a FOIA release. It is public record.Are you proud of violating TOSconcerning unclean OP's. Where is your input on this matter?
I would place a bet that not everything has been released, or ever will
That has nothing to do with TOS in Politics and the OP's outliners of what must be in the opening post. You refuse to provide a personal statement to the subject of the OP..I personally do not want to wade through a thousand pages of E-mails is there something specific you want to highlight?This is a FOIA release. It is public record.Are you proud of violating TOSconcerning unclean OP's. Where is your input on this matter?
Page 2286: The virus was created. That is what you are not commenting on, at least in a minimalist manor that doesn't clarify why you suggested that page?
The text of the email is copied word for word from a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Pennsylvania. The message to Fauci came from Adam Gaertner, a self-described independent researcher whose website includes a disclaimer that it shouldn’t be used for medical advice. He is also pushing a supposed COVID treatment the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warns "can cause serious harm."
The report's original authors told USA TODAY that Gaertner's claim is wrong and that the virus particles used in the experiment, which predated the emergence of COVID-19 by 14 years, did not contain genetic material from any coronaviruses.
During an interview on CNN, Fauci responded to questions about some of his emails. He said he believes the virus jumped from an animal to humans but supported investigation into its origins.
"I still believe the most likely origin is from an animal species to a human, but I keep an absolutely open mind that there may be other origins of that, there may be another reason, it could have been a lab leak," he said.
Gaertner declined to comment for this story, saying in response to a Twitter message that journalists and Fauci had committed “crimes against humanity.”
The Washington Post also published a story based on about 800 pages of Fauci’s emails from March and April 2020.
At 6:16 a.m. on March 11, 2020, Fauci received Gaertner’s email claiming to detail “how the virus was created.”
The text of Gaertner’s email was taken word-for-word from a 2005 paper by a team of researchers at the University of Pennsylvania.
At the time, they were trying to find a way to block the activation of a SARS-CoV spike protein as a potential “therapeutic” for severe acute respiratory syndrome, which is caused by the virus, said Paul Bates, a co-author of the study and microbiology professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Gaertner focused on one portion of the paper titled “intervirion fusion,” which he sent to Fauci. But one of Bates’ co-authors, Graham Simmons, told USA TODAY that Gaertner misinterpreted it.
Both Bates and Simmons said the virus particles used in the experiment didn’t contain genetic material from a coronavirus.
“It really makes no sense that it could be a coronavirus bioweapon production method,” Simmons, now a senior investigator at Vitalant Research Institute, said in an email. “I am happy someone made Tony Fauci aware of this work as it is a really cool experiment and was funded by NIH, but the misinterpretation is appalling.”
Bates said the virus particles described in the 2005 paper “are completely replication-defective, meaning they cannot produce infection virus.”
In his Twitter biography, Gaertner claims to have “discovered the cure for COVID” in April 2020 and lists virology, politics and research in his bio. He does not include any degrees, affiliations or a place of employment, but he added thousands of followers after his email became public.
Gaertner declined to comment for this story beyond attacks on the media and Fauci.
His website links to a YouTube video from May 25 where Gaertner, standing in front of a black-framed whiteboard colored with blue marker, claims to have developed “protocols” that prevent the COVID-19 vaccine from taking effect after it has been given.
“I’m not a doctor, a professor or anything else,” Gaertner said in the video. “I’ve just been doing a lot of research over the last year.”
Gaertner’s website includes a similar disclaimer. At the bottom of pages linking to interviews with Gaertner and hawking T-shirts with phrases like “compliance costs lives,” the website warns its content should not be taken as medical advice.
“This site is intended for research, education (and) entertainment purposes only,” the fine print reads. “The information provided on this site is not intended to substitute for medical advice.”
Gaertner is among those pushing the theory that the antiparasitic drug ivermectin used on animals could be used to treat COVID-19.
The FDA said in April 2020 people should not take ivermectin unless prescribed by a licensed health care provider and “obtained through a legitimate source,” saying the drugs “can cause serious harm.” It reiterated that in March.
The University of Minnesota is studying whether the drug can be used to prevent infection that leads to the most serious cases of COVID-19.
In a June 2 post on Twitter, Gaertner wrote that he was married to a woman The New York Times connected to the spread of misinformation about the 2020 Iowa caucus and the theory that COVID-19 is a Chinese bioweapon.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/03/fact-check-email-fauci-doesnt-contain-origin-coronavirus/7511931002/
Fact check: No, email to Fauci doesn't contain origin of a 'coronavirus bioweapon'
The text of the email is copied word for word from a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Pennsylvania. The message to Fauci came from Adam Gaertner, a self-described independent researcher whose website includes a disclaimer that it shouldn’t be used for medical advice. He is also pushing a supposed COVID treatment the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warns "can cause serious harm."
The report's original authors told USA TODAY that Gaertner's claim is wrong and that the virus particles used in the experiment, which predated the emergence of COVID-19 by 14 years, did not contain genetic material from any coronaviruses.
During an interview on CNN, Fauci responded to questions about some of his emails. He said he believes the virus jumped from an animal to humans but supported investigation into its origins.
"I still believe the most likely origin is from an animal species to a human, but I keep an absolutely open mind that there may be other origins of that, there may be another reason, it could have been a lab leak," he said.
Gaertner declined to comment for this story, saying in response to a Twitter message that journalists and Fauci had committed “crimes against humanity.”
‘The misinterpretation is appalling’
Gaertner’s email to Fauci was among more than 3,200 pages Buzzfeed News published on June 1. The emails cover the period of January through June 2020.The Washington Post also published a story based on about 800 pages of Fauci’s emails from March and April 2020.
At 6:16 a.m. on March 11, 2020, Fauci received Gaertner’s email claiming to detail “how the virus was created.”
The text of Gaertner’s email was taken word-for-word from a 2005 paper by a team of researchers at the University of Pennsylvania.
At the time, they were trying to find a way to block the activation of a SARS-CoV spike protein as a potential “therapeutic” for severe acute respiratory syndrome, which is caused by the virus, said Paul Bates, a co-author of the study and microbiology professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Gaertner focused on one portion of the paper titled “intervirion fusion,” which he sent to Fauci. But one of Bates’ co-authors, Graham Simmons, told USA TODAY that Gaertner misinterpreted it.
Both Bates and Simmons said the virus particles used in the experiment didn’t contain genetic material from a coronavirus.
“It really makes no sense that it could be a coronavirus bioweapon production method,” Simmons, now a senior investigator at Vitalant Research Institute, said in an email. “I am happy someone made Tony Fauci aware of this work as it is a really cool experiment and was funded by NIH, but the misinterpretation is appalling.”
Bates said the virus particles described in the 2005 paper “are completely replication-defective, meaning they cannot produce infection virus.”
‘I’m not a doctor’
Gaertner is described on his website as an “independent researcher" but provides no additional credentials.In his Twitter biography, Gaertner claims to have “discovered the cure for COVID” in April 2020 and lists virology, politics and research in his bio. He does not include any degrees, affiliations or a place of employment, but he added thousands of followers after his email became public.
Gaertner declined to comment for this story beyond attacks on the media and Fauci.
His website links to a YouTube video from May 25 where Gaertner, standing in front of a black-framed whiteboard colored with blue marker, claims to have developed “protocols” that prevent the COVID-19 vaccine from taking effect after it has been given.
“I’m not a doctor, a professor or anything else,” Gaertner said in the video. “I’ve just been doing a lot of research over the last year.”
Gaertner’s website includes a similar disclaimer. At the bottom of pages linking to interviews with Gaertner and hawking T-shirts with phrases like “compliance costs lives,” the website warns its content should not be taken as medical advice.
“This site is intended for research, education (and) entertainment purposes only,” the fine print reads. “The information provided on this site is not intended to substitute for medical advice.”
Gaertner is among those pushing the theory that the antiparasitic drug ivermectin used on animals could be used to treat COVID-19.
The FDA said in April 2020 people should not take ivermectin unless prescribed by a licensed health care provider and “obtained through a legitimate source,” saying the drugs “can cause serious harm.” It reiterated that in March.
The University of Minnesota is studying whether the drug can be used to prevent infection that leads to the most serious cases of COVID-19.
In a June 2 post on Twitter, Gaertner wrote that he was married to a woman The New York Times connected to the spread of misinformation about the 2020 Iowa caucus and the theory that COVID-19 is a Chinese bioweapon.
Our ruling: False
The claim that an email to Fauci contained the origins of the coronavirus is FALSE, based on our research. The text of the email is lifted from a research paper published in 2005, more than a decade before the emergence of COVID-19. Two of the paper’s co-authors said the virus particles used in their experiment did not contain genetic material from a coronavirus, so the process described isn't what Gaertner claims it to be. The self-described “independent researcher” who sent Fauci the email said in a YouTube video he is not a doctor or professor, and his website includes a disclaimer that its contents should not be used as medical advice.Our fact-check sources:
- The Washington Post, June 1, Anthony Fauci’s pandemic emails: ‘All is well despite some crazy people in this world’
- Buzzfeed News, June 1, Anthony Fauci’s Emails Reveal The Pressure That Fell On One Man
- Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, Aug. 16, 2005, Inhibitors of cathepsin L prevent severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus entry
- U.S. Food and Drug Administration, April 10, 2020, FDA Letter to Stakeholders: Do Not Use Ivermectin Intended for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans
- U.S. Food and Drug Administration, March 5, Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19
- Minneapolis Star Tribune, May 21, Controversial ivermectin added to University of Minnesota COVID-19 drug trial
- Paul Bates, June 2, email interview with USA TODAY
- Graham Simmons, June 2, email interview with USA TODAY
- Brittanica.com, accessed June 3, Virion viral structure
- Twitter, June 2, Adam Gaertner post on Twitter
- The New York Times, June 15, A Conspiracy Made in America May Have Been Spread by Russia
- CNN, June 3, Berman reads Dr. Fauci some of his released emails. Hear his response
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/03/fact-check-email-fauci-doesnt-contain-origin-coronavirus/7511931002/
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This whole Fauci thing has been absolutely fascinating.Page 2286: The virus was created. That is what you are not commenting on, at least in a minimalist manor that doesn't clarify why you suggested that page?
Fact check: No, email to Fauci doesn't contain origin of a 'coronavirus bioweapon'
The text of the email is copied word for word from a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Pennsylvania. The message to Fauci came from Adam Gaertner, a self-described independent researcher whose website includes a disclaimer that it shouldn’t be used for medical advice. He is also pushing a supposed COVID treatment the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warns "can cause serious harm."
The report's original authors told USA TODAY that Gaertner's claim is wrong and that the virus particles used in the experiment, which predated the emergence of COVID-19 by 14 years, did not contain genetic material from any coronaviruses.
During an interview on CNN, Fauci responded to questions about some of his emails. He said he believes the virus jumped from an animal to humans but supported investigation into its origins.
"I still believe the most likely origin is from an animal species to a human, but I keep an absolutely open mind that there may be other origins of that, there may be another reason, it could have been a lab leak," he said.
Gaertner declined to comment for this story, saying in response to a Twitter message that journalists and Fauci had committed “crimes against humanity.”
‘The misinterpretation is appalling’
Gaertner’s email to Fauci was among more than 3,200 pages Buzzfeed News published on June 1. The emails cover the period of January through June 2020.
The Washington Post also published a story based on about 800 pages of Fauci’s emails from March and April 2020.
At 6:16 a.m. on March 11, 2020, Fauci received Gaertner’s email claiming to detail “how the virus was created.”
The text of Gaertner’s email was taken word-for-word from a 2005 paper by a team of researchers at the University of Pennsylvania.
At the time, they were trying to find a way to block the activation of a SARS-CoV spike protein as a potential “therapeutic” for severe acute respiratory syndrome, which is caused by the virus, said Paul Bates, a co-author of the study and microbiology professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Gaertner focused on one portion of the paper titled “intervirion fusion,” which he sent to Fauci. But one of Bates’ co-authors, Graham Simmons, told USA TODAY that Gaertner misinterpreted it.
Both Bates and Simmons said the virus particles used in the experiment didn’t contain genetic material from a coronavirus.
“It really makes no sense that it could be a coronavirus bioweapon production method,” Simmons, now a senior investigator at Vitalant Research Institute, said in an email. “I am happy someone made Tony Fauci aware of this work as it is a really cool experiment and was funded by NIH, but the misinterpretation is appalling.”
Bates said the virus particles described in the 2005 paper “are completely replication-defective, meaning they cannot produce infection virus.”
‘I’m not a doctor’
Gaertner is described on his website as an “independent researcher" but provides no additional credentials.
In his Twitter biography, Gaertner claims to have “discovered the cure for COVID” in April 2020 and lists virology, politics and research in his bio. He does not include any degrees, affiliations or a place of employment, but he added thousands of followers after his email became public.
Gaertner declined to comment for this story beyond attacks on the media and Fauci.
His website links to a YouTube video from May 25 where Gaertner, standing in front of a black-framed whiteboard colored with blue marker, claims to have developed “protocols” that prevent the COVID-19 vaccine from taking effect after it has been given.
“I’m not a doctor, a professor or anything else,” Gaertner said in the video. “I’ve just been doing a lot of research over the last year.”
Gaertner’s website includes a similar disclaimer. At the bottom of pages linking to interviews with Gaertner and hawking T-shirts with phrases like “compliance costs lives,” the website warns its content should not be taken as medical advice.
“This site is intended for research, education (and) entertainment purposes only,” the fine print reads. “The information provided on this site is not intended to substitute for medical advice.”
Gaertner is among those pushing the theory that the antiparasitic drug ivermectin used on animals could be used to treat COVID-19.
The FDA said in April 2020 people should not take ivermectin unless prescribed by a licensed health care provider and “obtained through a legitimate source,” saying the drugs “can cause serious harm.” It reiterated that in March.
The University of Minnesota is studying whether the drug can be used to prevent infection that leads to the most serious cases of COVID-19.
In a June 2 post on Twitter, Gaertner wrote that he was married to a woman The New York Times connected to the spread of misinformation about the 2020 Iowa caucus and the theory that COVID-19 is a Chinese bioweapon.
Our ruling: False
The claim that an email to Fauci contained the origins of the coronavirus is FALSE, based on our research. The text of the email is lifted from a research paper published in 2005, more than a decade before the emergence of COVID-19. Two of the paper’s co-authors said the virus particles used in their experiment did not contain genetic material from a coronavirus, so the process described isn't what Gaertner claims it to be. The self-described “independent researcher” who sent Fauci the email said in a YouTube video he is not a doctor or professor, and his website includes a disclaimer that its contents should not be used as medical advice.
Our fact-check sources:
- The Washington Post, June 1, Anthony Fauci’s pandemic emails: ‘All is well despite some crazy people in this world’
- Buzzfeed News, June 1, Anthony Fauci’s Emails Reveal The Pressure That Fell On One Man
- Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, Aug. 16, 2005, Inhibitors of cathepsin L prevent severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus entry
- U.S. Food and Drug Administration, April 10, 2020, FDA Letter to Stakeholders: Do Not Use Ivermectin Intended for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans
- U.S. Food and Drug Administration, March 5, Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19
- Minneapolis Star Tribune, May 21, Controversial ivermectin added to University of Minnesota COVID-19 drug trial
- Paul Bates, June 2, email interview with USA TODAY
- Graham Simmons, June 2, email interview with USA TODAY
- Brittanica.com, accessed June 3, Virion viral structure
- Twitter, June 2, Adam Gaertner post on Twitter
- The New York Times, June 15, A Conspiracy Made in America May Have Been Spread by Russia
- CNN, June 3, Berman reads Dr. Fauci some of his released emails. Hear his response
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/03/fact-check-email-fauci-doesnt-contain-origin-coronavirus/7511931002/
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Trump went after Fauci because Fauci wasn't obedient, and that unleashed all hell on the guy, 24/7.
Group psychosis, 21st Century version.
If Trump says attack his faithful Dawgs go after people whether they know the truth or not. They are blind as a bat to reality.This whole Fauci thing has been absolutely fascinating.Page 2286: The virus was created. That is what you are not commenting on, at least in a minimalist manor that doesn't clarify why you suggested that page?
Fact check: No, email to Fauci doesn't contain origin of a 'coronavirus bioweapon'
The text of the email is copied word for word from a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Pennsylvania. The message to Fauci came from Adam Gaertner, a self-described independent researcher whose website includes a disclaimer that it shouldn’t be used for medical advice. He is also pushing a supposed COVID treatment the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warns "can cause serious harm."
The report's original authors told USA TODAY that Gaertner's claim is wrong and that the virus particles used in the experiment, which predated the emergence of COVID-19 by 14 years, did not contain genetic material from any coronaviruses.
During an interview on CNN, Fauci responded to questions about some of his emails. He said he believes the virus jumped from an animal to humans but supported investigation into its origins.
"I still believe the most likely origin is from an animal species to a human, but I keep an absolutely open mind that there may be other origins of that, there may be another reason, it could have been a lab leak," he said.
Gaertner declined to comment for this story, saying in response to a Twitter message that journalists and Fauci had committed “crimes against humanity.”
‘The misinterpretation is appalling’
Gaertner’s email to Fauci was among more than 3,200 pages Buzzfeed News published on June 1. The emails cover the period of January through June 2020.
The Washington Post also published a story based on about 800 pages of Fauci’s emails from March and April 2020.
At 6:16 a.m. on March 11, 2020, Fauci received Gaertner’s email claiming to detail “how the virus was created.”
The text of Gaertner’s email was taken word-for-word from a 2005 paper by a team of researchers at the University of Pennsylvania.
At the time, they were trying to find a way to block the activation of a SARS-CoV spike protein as a potential “therapeutic” for severe acute respiratory syndrome, which is caused by the virus, said Paul Bates, a co-author of the study and microbiology professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Gaertner focused on one portion of the paper titled “intervirion fusion,” which he sent to Fauci. But one of Bates’ co-authors, Graham Simmons, told USA TODAY that Gaertner misinterpreted it.
Both Bates and Simmons said the virus particles used in the experiment didn’t contain genetic material from a coronavirus.
“It really makes no sense that it could be a coronavirus bioweapon production method,” Simmons, now a senior investigator at Vitalant Research Institute, said in an email. “I am happy someone made Tony Fauci aware of this work as it is a really cool experiment and was funded by NIH, but the misinterpretation is appalling.”
Bates said the virus particles described in the 2005 paper “are completely replication-defective, meaning they cannot produce infection virus.”
‘I’m not a doctor’
Gaertner is described on his website as an “independent researcher" but provides no additional credentials.
In his Twitter biography, Gaertner claims to have “discovered the cure for COVID” in April 2020 and lists virology, politics and research in his bio. He does not include any degrees, affiliations or a place of employment, but he added thousands of followers after his email became public.
Gaertner declined to comment for this story beyond attacks on the media and Fauci.
His website links to a YouTube video from May 25 where Gaertner, standing in front of a black-framed whiteboard colored with blue marker, claims to have developed “protocols” that prevent the COVID-19 vaccine from taking effect after it has been given.
“I’m not a doctor, a professor or anything else,” Gaertner said in the video. “I’ve just been doing a lot of research over the last year.”
Gaertner’s website includes a similar disclaimer. At the bottom of pages linking to interviews with Gaertner and hawking T-shirts with phrases like “compliance costs lives,” the website warns its content should not be taken as medical advice.
“This site is intended for research, education (and) entertainment purposes only,” the fine print reads. “The information provided on this site is not intended to substitute for medical advice.”
Gaertner is among those pushing the theory that the antiparasitic drug ivermectin used on animals could be used to treat COVID-19.
The FDA said in April 2020 people should not take ivermectin unless prescribed by a licensed health care provider and “obtained through a legitimate source,” saying the drugs “can cause serious harm.” It reiterated that in March.
The University of Minnesota is studying whether the drug can be used to prevent infection that leads to the most serious cases of COVID-19.
In a June 2 post on Twitter, Gaertner wrote that he was married to a woman The New York Times connected to the spread of misinformation about the 2020 Iowa caucus and the theory that COVID-19 is a Chinese bioweapon.
Our ruling: False
The claim that an email to Fauci contained the origins of the coronavirus is FALSE, based on our research. The text of the email is lifted from a research paper published in 2005, more than a decade before the emergence of COVID-19. Two of the paper’s co-authors said the virus particles used in their experiment did not contain genetic material from a coronavirus, so the process described isn't what Gaertner claims it to be. The self-described “independent researcher” who sent Fauci the email said in a YouTube video he is not a doctor or professor, and his website includes a disclaimer that its contents should not be used as medical advice.
Our fact-check sources:
- The Washington Post, June 1, Anthony Fauci’s pandemic emails: ‘All is well despite some crazy people in this world’
- Buzzfeed News, June 1, Anthony Fauci’s Emails Reveal The Pressure That Fell On One Man
- Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, Aug. 16, 2005, Inhibitors of cathepsin L prevent severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus entry
- U.S. Food and Drug Administration, April 10, 2020, FDA Letter to Stakeholders: Do Not Use Ivermectin Intended for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans
- U.S. Food and Drug Administration, March 5, Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19
- Minneapolis Star Tribune, May 21, Controversial ivermectin added to University of Minnesota COVID-19 drug trial
- Paul Bates, June 2, email interview with USA TODAY
- Graham Simmons, June 2, email interview with USA TODAY
- Brittanica.com, accessed June 3, Virion viral structure
- Twitter, June 2, Adam Gaertner post on Twitter
- The New York Times, June 15, A Conspiracy Made in America May Have Been Spread by Russia
- CNN, June 3, Berman reads Dr. Fauci some of his released emails. Hear his response
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/03/fact-check-email-fauci-doesnt-contain-origin-coronavirus/7511931002/
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Trump went after Fauci because Fauci wasn't obedient, and that unleashed all hell on the guy, 24/7.
Group psychosis, 21st Century version.
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Her come the "factchecks". We all know what those really are don't we?
Those calling themselves fact checkers are like the foxes making sure everybody has the right scoop as to the missing chickens.
They are more elaborate and use sources to prove their point, you don't even express a point in your OP.Her come the "factchecks". We all know what those really are don't we?
Fact check was busy last year "proving" fauci was right when we now know he was wrong. Whatever you see from fact check or snopes etc, its usually wise to do a 180 and go the other way. These are mostly liberal views and opinions that obfuscate and twist.
You used absolutely nothing to support you OP, nor did you explain what your intentions were because you are void without meaning to the truth.Her come the "factchecks". We all know what those really are don't we?
Fact check was busy last year "proving" fauci was right when we now know he was wrong. Whatever you see from fact check or snopes etc, its usually wise to do a 180 and go the other way. These are mostly liberal views and opinions that obfuscate and twist.
Do you have any sources to confirm why one should go the other way?
Fauci had his chance. For many decades. He is a fraud. He is a deep state operative. No different the entertainers involved.This whole Fauci thing has been absolutely fascinating.Page 2286: The virus was created. That is what you are not commenting on, at least in a minimalist manor that doesn't clarify why you suggested that page?
Fact check: No, email to Fauci doesn't contain origin of a 'coronavirus bioweapon'
The text of the email is copied word for word from a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Pennsylvania. The message to Fauci came from Adam Gaertner, a self-described independent researcher whose website includes a disclaimer that it shouldn’t be used for medical advice. He is also pushing a supposed COVID treatment the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warns "can cause serious harm."
The report's original authors told USA TODAY that Gaertner's claim is wrong and that the virus particles used in the experiment, which predated the emergence of COVID-19 by 14 years, did not contain genetic material from any coronaviruses.
During an interview on CNN, Fauci responded to questions about some of his emails. He said he believes the virus jumped from an animal to humans but supported investigation into its origins.
"I still believe the most likely origin is from an animal species to a human, but I keep an absolutely open mind that there may be other origins of that, there may be another reason, it could have been a lab leak," he said.
Gaertner declined to comment for this story, saying in response to a Twitter message that journalists and Fauci had committed “crimes against humanity.”
‘The misinterpretation is appalling’
Gaertner’s email to Fauci was among more than 3,200 pages Buzzfeed News published on June 1. The emails cover the period of January through June 2020.
The Washington Post also published a story based on about 800 pages of Fauci’s emails from March and April 2020.
At 6:16 a.m. on March 11, 2020, Fauci received Gaertner’s email claiming to detail “how the virus was created.”
The text of Gaertner’s email was taken word-for-word from a 2005 paper by a team of researchers at the University of Pennsylvania.
At the time, they were trying to find a way to block the activation of a SARS-CoV spike protein as a potential “therapeutic” for severe acute respiratory syndrome, which is caused by the virus, said Paul Bates, a co-author of the study and microbiology professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Gaertner focused on one portion of the paper titled “intervirion fusion,” which he sent to Fauci. But one of Bates’ co-authors, Graham Simmons, told USA TODAY that Gaertner misinterpreted it.
Both Bates and Simmons said the virus particles used in the experiment didn’t contain genetic material from a coronavirus.
“It really makes no sense that it could be a coronavirus bioweapon production method,” Simmons, now a senior investigator at Vitalant Research Institute, said in an email. “I am happy someone made Tony Fauci aware of this work as it is a really cool experiment and was funded by NIH, but the misinterpretation is appalling.”
Bates said the virus particles described in the 2005 paper “are completely replication-defective, meaning they cannot produce infection virus.”
‘I’m not a doctor’
Gaertner is described on his website as an “independent researcher" but provides no additional credentials.
In his Twitter biography, Gaertner claims to have “discovered the cure for COVID” in April 2020 and lists virology, politics and research in his bio. He does not include any degrees, affiliations or a place of employment, but he added thousands of followers after his email became public.
Gaertner declined to comment for this story beyond attacks on the media and Fauci.
His website links to a YouTube video from May 25 where Gaertner, standing in front of a black-framed whiteboard colored with blue marker, claims to have developed “protocols” that prevent the COVID-19 vaccine from taking effect after it has been given.
“I’m not a doctor, a professor or anything else,” Gaertner said in the video. “I’ve just been doing a lot of research over the last year.”
Gaertner’s website includes a similar disclaimer. At the bottom of pages linking to interviews with Gaertner and hawking T-shirts with phrases like “compliance costs lives,” the website warns its content should not be taken as medical advice.
“This site is intended for research, education (and) entertainment purposes only,” the fine print reads. “The information provided on this site is not intended to substitute for medical advice.”
Gaertner is among those pushing the theory that the antiparasitic drug ivermectin used on animals could be used to treat COVID-19.
The FDA said in April 2020 people should not take ivermectin unless prescribed by a licensed health care provider and “obtained through a legitimate source,” saying the drugs “can cause serious harm.” It reiterated that in March.
The University of Minnesota is studying whether the drug can be used to prevent infection that leads to the most serious cases of COVID-19.
In a June 2 post on Twitter, Gaertner wrote that he was married to a woman The New York Times connected to the spread of misinformation about the 2020 Iowa caucus and the theory that COVID-19 is a Chinese bioweapon.
Our ruling: False
The claim that an email to Fauci contained the origins of the coronavirus is FALSE, based on our research. The text of the email is lifted from a research paper published in 2005, more than a decade before the emergence of COVID-19. Two of the paper’s co-authors said the virus particles used in their experiment did not contain genetic material from a coronavirus, so the process described isn't what Gaertner claims it to be. The self-described “independent researcher” who sent Fauci the email said in a YouTube video he is not a doctor or professor, and his website includes a disclaimer that its contents should not be used as medical advice.
Our fact-check sources:
- The Washington Post, June 1, Anthony Fauci’s pandemic emails: ‘All is well despite some crazy people in this world’
- Buzzfeed News, June 1, Anthony Fauci’s Emails Reveal The Pressure That Fell On One Man
- Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, Aug. 16, 2005, Inhibitors of cathepsin L prevent severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus entry
- U.S. Food and Drug Administration, April 10, 2020, FDA Letter to Stakeholders: Do Not Use Ivermectin Intended for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans
- U.S. Food and Drug Administration, March 5, Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19
- Minneapolis Star Tribune, May 21, Controversial ivermectin added to University of Minnesota COVID-19 drug trial
- Paul Bates, June 2, email interview with USA TODAY
- Graham Simmons, June 2, email interview with USA TODAY
- Brittanica.com, accessed June 3, Virion viral structure
- Twitter, June 2, Adam Gaertner post on Twitter
- The New York Times, June 15, A Conspiracy Made in America May Have Been Spread by Russia
- CNN, June 3, Berman reads Dr. Fauci some of his released emails. Hear his response
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/03/fact-check-email-fauci-doesnt-contain-origin-coronavirus/7511931002/
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Trump went after Fauci because Fauci wasn't obedient, and that unleashed all hell on the guy, 24/7.
Group psychosis, 21st Century version.
Fact check was busy last year "proving" fauci was right when we now know he was wrong. Whatever you see from fact check or snopes etc, its usually wise to do a 180 and go the other way. These are mostly liberal views and opinions that obfuscate and twist.
Context is everything.
Even the fact checkers on the right?Her come the "factchecks". We all know what those really are don't we?
Those calling themselves fact checkers are like the foxes making sure everybody has the right scoop as to the missing chickens.
Tucker gives us Cliff's Notes...
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