Farmers on the hook for millions after Trump freezes USDA funds

[Winston]

Yes, but that is not what we are talking about. Solar panels that destroy farm land puts electricity onto the grid. The farmer never uses that electricity.

**** the farmers that became electricity utilities that stiff me with higher electricity rates.

Farmers that turn their backs on farming deserve to be stiffed. We have no obligation to continue the lawless immoral green energy scam of the democrats.

Yes, solar panels, devoted to sending electricity to the grid, eats up farmland. But you can't condemn the farmers for abandoning a non-profitable enterprise and using the land to generate revenue in the best way they can.

In this county, admittedly, a rather unique area, there were 59 dairy farms when I was born some 62 years ago. My grandparents ran one of them. Today, there is one. And yes, there are several solar farms in the area, eating up farmland. But nobody wanted to work that land.

Like I said, growing crops, or providing milk, it is a tough ass job. Hard ass work. And the market is so consolidated now, suppliers and manufacturers have all the power. I have had to run the numbers. Do you lease the land to Duke Power, install solar cells. I mean it is a 20 year contract, guaranteed money. No government subsidy required. Fortunately, I found someone willing to buy the land, do the work, provide the food to Americans. But without them, yeah, hundreds of acres devoted to solar panels would have been the next best option.

But that is not what we are talking about here. We are talking about a small business, in a cut-throat market, using solar panels to pump water to their crops. Something farmers have done for more than a hundred years, searching for the best way to get water to their crops.

 

[Moonglow]

Yeah, what would I know. My aunt and Uncle had a 70 acre farm I grew up on and vacationed at every summer growing up and spent my life growing vegetable and flowers gardening for myself. I know all about soils, fertilizers and pH.

As to field crops, my Aunt and Uncle sharecropped. Grew a lot of corn and other stuff. Wasn't one bit of work for them.
You also need to know something of how to run a business. Tip #1: don't invest money in your business you don't need to or can't afford to lose hanging on the hopes that somehow, the government will pay for it all for you using other people's money.

Yeah, MAGATs loved it last time when Trump was in office:
The United States Department of Agriculture has distributed up to $12 billion in financial aid to agricultural producers most affected by China's retaliatory tariffs. The USDA's aid came in the form of direct cash payments to producers of corn, cotton, soybeans, sorghum, wheat, dairy, and certain meat products.

Trump administration farmer bailouts - Wikipedia​

Farm Subsidies Ballooned Under Trump​

Environmental Working Group
https://www.ewg.org › interactive-maps › 2021-farm-sub...




Feb 24, 2021 — Subsidy payments to farmers ballooned from just over $4 billion in 2017 to more than $20 billion in 2020 – driven largely by ad hoc programs.

'Here's your check': Trump's massive payouts to farmers ...​

Politico
https://www.politico.com › news › 2020/07/14 › donal...




Jul 14, 2020 — Direct farm aid has climbed each year of Trump's presidency, from $11.5 billion in 2017 to more than $32 billion this year — an all-time high ...

 

[theHawk]

“Farmers report missing millions of dollars of funding they were promised by the U.S. Agriculture Department, despite promises from the Trump administration that a federal funding freeze would not apply to projects directly benefiting individuals.
[…]
Farmers who signed contracts with the Agriculture Department under those programs paid up front to build fencing, plant new crops and install renewable energy systems with guarantees that the federal government would issue grants and loan guarantees to cover at least part of their costs. Now, with that money frozen, they’re on the hook.

Laura Beth Resnick, who runs a Maryland flower farm, said she signed a contract for the Agriculture Department to cover half of a $72,900 solar panel installation. In late January, she said, she was told her reimbursement payment was rejected due to Trump’s executive order.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/02/10/farmers-agriculture-funding-frozen/

More Trump chaos and incompetence; Trump is unfit to be president.

LOL why the **** should taxpayers pay for her solar panels?

If solar panels were viable as an energy source, they’d be affordable and give returns quickly.

But that obviously isn’t the case.

$73,000 tax dollars to pay for someone’s Solar panels? GTFO.

 

[The Duke]

Yeah, neither were those windmills back in the old west that pumped water to the crops. Dumbass.

So let me see, if you utilize a government subsidy to finance an expansion you are a parasite. But if you use a government financed sewage plant to handle your shit that is just fine. Same for municipal water. How come those people are not parasites?

And you do realize, the oil and gas industries are heavily subsidized. Lady farmer is a parasite, but fat cat oil executives cashing in on government subsidies and special tax breaks, just what are they?

You are Commie Vomit, bruh.

 

[elektra]

Yes, solar panels, devoted to sending electricity to the grid, eats up farmland. But you can't condemn the farmers for abandoning a non-profitable enterprise and using the land to generate revenue in the best way they can.

Covering farm land with solar panels helps drive uo the cost of food.

Yes, I can blame the farmers for being poor stewards of the land and being greedy.

 

[elektra]

Which law is that?
There is nothing immoral about energy production.

Forcing people to pay for expensive solar electricity while destroying 10,000's of acres of land is immoral

Which law are you asking about.

 

[Winston]

Yeah, what would I know. My aunt and Uncle had a 70 acre farm I grew up on and vacationed at every summer growing up and spent my life growing vegetable and flowers gardening for myself. I know all about soils, fertilizers and pH.

As to field crops, my Aunt and Uncle sharecropped. Grew a lot of corn and other stuff. Wasn't one bit of work for them.
You also need to know something of how to run a business. Tip #1: don't invest money in your business you don't need to or can't afford to lose hanging on the hopes that somehow, the government will pay for it all for you using other people's money.

LMAO, sharecropped. I am talking hundreds of acres. For years we ran a rotation. Winter wheat, spring corn, soybeans, winter wheat, soybeans, fall corn. Leased out another couple acres for pasture. I miss it, but the money in the bank sure don't hurt.

 

[Leo123]

Yeah, neither were those windmills back in the old west that pumped water to the crops. Dumbass.

So let me see, if you utilize a government subsidy to finance an expansion you are a parasite. But if you use a government financed sewage plant to handle your shit that is just fine. Same for municipal water. How come those people are not parasites?

And you do realize, the oil and gas industries are heavily subsidized. Lady farmer is a parasite, but fat cat oil executives cashing in on government subsidies and special tax breaks, just what are they?

Don't be a blockhead. There is a vast difference between a flower lady and our energy sector. Why does one flower lady get government subsidy yet others may not. Maybe all flower ladies in the U.S. should get subsidies and solar panels.

 

[Leo123]

LMAO, sharecropped. I am talking hundreds of acres. For years we ran a rotation. Winter wheat, spring corn, soybeans, winter wheat, soybeans, fall corn. Leased out another couple acres for pasture. I miss it, but the money in the bank sure don't hurt.

All on windmills and solar panels?

 

[elektra]

We are talking about a small business, in a cut-throat market, using solar panels to pump water to their crops. Something farmers have done for more than a hundred years, searching for the best way to get water to their crops.

Nobody uses solar panels to pump water on commercial farms.
Historically nobody has used solar to pump water on commercial farms
Solar power is too weak

 

[toobfreak]

Yes, solar panels, devoted to sending electricity to the grid, eats up farmland. But you can't condemn the farmers for abandoning a non-profitable enterprise and using the land to generate revenue in the best way they can. In this county, admittedly, a rather unique area, there were 59 dairy farms when I was born some 62 years ago. My grandparents ran one of them. Today, there is one. And yes, there are several solar farms in the area, eating up farmland. But nobody wanted to work that land. Like I said, growing crops, or providing milk, it is a tough ass job. Hard ass work. And the market is so consolidated now, suppliers and manufacturers have all the power. I have had to run the numbers. Do you lease the land to Duke Power, install solar cells. I mean it is a 20 year contract, guaranteed money. No government subsidy required. Fortunately, I found someone willing to buy the land, do the work, provide the food to Americans. But without them, yeah, hundreds of acres devoted to solar panels would have been the next best option. But that is not what we are talking about here. We are talking about a small business, in a cut-throat market, using solar panels to pump water to their crops. Something farmers have done for more than a hundred years, searching for the best way to get water to their crops.

 

[Winston]

Covering farm land with solar panels helps drive uo the cost of food.

Yes, I can blame the farmers for being poor stewards of the land and being greedy.

Farmers being greedy? You couldn't be more out of touch.

Check the margins of food manufactures. They are insane. That is where the power is. That is our system, and yes, it certainly needs to be adjusted.

I got to tell you. There is no more satisfying job than providing food to your neighbors. Or, I guess in this case, providing "blooms". It really is a beautiful thing.

 

[Winston]

Don't be a blockhead. There is a vast difference between a flower lady and our energy sector. Why does one flower lady get government subsidy yet others may not. Maybe all flower ladies in the U.S. should get subsidies and solar panels.

Flower lady bad, oil tycoon good. You see the problem?

 

[Winston]

Nobody uses solar panels to pump water on commercial farms.
Historically nobody has used solar to pump water on commercial farms
Solar power is too weak

LMAO

Solar-powered pump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[toobfreak]

For years we ran a rotation. Winter wheat, spring corn, soybeans, winter wheat, soybeans, fall corn.

Everyone does that to keep the balance right in the soil.

 

[Winston]

Everyone does that to keep the balance right in the soil.

Wow, I am impressed. Yes, all about the soybeans

 

[JGalt]

Farmers being greedy? You couldn't be more out of touch.

Check the margins of food manufactures. They are insane. That is where the power is. That is our system, and yes, it certainly needs to be adjusted.

I got to tell you. There is no more satisfying job than providing food to your neighbors. Or, I guess in this case, providing "blooms". It really is a beautiful thing.

If we have to rely on agricultural welfare to feed people in this country, there are a whole lot of motherfuckers who just need to starve and die off.

 

[Leo123]

Flower lady bad, oil tycoon good. You see the problem?

Flower lady has no power if not for the oil tycoon. You're kinda shallow.

 

[Winston]

Everyone does that to keep the balance right in the soil.

But man, I am not kidding. Some of the finest farmland in the world. The soil was black, I mean black as tar.

 

[Winston]

Flower lady has no power if not for the oil tycoon. You're kinda shallow.

Again, maybe that is true, you not see the problem?