Farmers on the hook for millions after Trump freezes USDA funds

[Moonglow]

There is a shortage of rain in Maryland in the DC area? Pretty wet around there isn't it! Often pretty cloudy too, so I wonder what good solar panels are?


I bet they have too. DC is one of their listed providers. Pretty odd to run a farm that you can only visit by appointment. No wonder business is bad.
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Look like a couple of real losers to me. It is a wonder Biden didn't take them for a lot more. He should have sold them a few windmills too. One provides snacks for a living and the other one watches flowers grow while chasing his dog around in the field. They look like a pair of dreamers looking for someone else to finance their idyllic fantasy life. I don't know that they will ever get Trump to release $70,000 to them so they can grow flowers.

They signed a contract with the US government and now Trump is breaking a contract with a valid reason to repair.

 

[toobfreak]

All hell has broken loose because Trump is like a raging bull in a China shop.

All hell has broken loose because they stupidly invested $70,000 in solar panels to meet some green deal Biden was selling promoting Chinese-made green technology to a couple of flower childs.

 

[toobfreak]

That is a good program. And Butterbee Farm seems to be a successful business in a tough ass market.

Flowers are a tough ass market? Do you know you can get wildflowers for free along any country road?
I can grow a buttload of pretty flowers with a single packet of seeds for a buck.
And if they are a successful business, why is it killing them just to have to wait a little bit for the taxpayers to foot the bill for a bunch of solar panels for them?

 

[cnm]

Pretty odd to run a farm that you can only visit by appointment.

How to say one has never farmed commercially without actually saying it.

 

[elektra]

And you are a piece of shit for advocating stiffing the farmers.
The 2005 Energy Policy Act provided the impetuous for installing solar panels to help farmers when power is out.

Yes, but that is not what we are talking about. Solar panels that destroy farm land puts electricity onto the grid. The farmer never uses that electricity.

**** the farmers that became electricity utilities that stiff me with higher electricity rates.

Farmers that turn their backs on farming deserve to be stiffed. We have no obligation to continue the lawless immoral green energy scam of the democrats.

 

[elektra]

Jesus. As though flower farms don't use energy. All the above post shows is that the poster has never grown a commercial crop in their life.

Solar panels destroys the flower farm.
Solar panels don't provide electricity to the flower farm, they provide to grid.
Flower farms don't use electricity to grow flowers.

Remember, we are talking about acres turned into solar fields, acreage that was growing crops

 

[cnm]

Flower farms don't use electricity to grow flowers.

How to say one has never grown a commercial crop.

 

[Moonglow]

Yes, but that is not what we are talking about. Solar panels that destroy farm land puts electricity onto the grid. The farmer never uses that electricity.

**** the farmers that became electricity utilities that stiff me with higher electricity rates.

Farmers that turn their backs on farming deserve to be stiffed. We have no obligation to continue the lawless immoral green energy scam of the democrats.

Untrue since solar power is used and less rural electricity is needed. The Energy Policy Act of 2005 was signed by George Bush a Republican.

 

[toobfreak]

And Butterbee Farm seems to be a successful business in a tough ass market.

When they go out of business, maybe Trump can build a solar-powered drive-in on their property.
I like the smell of flowers while I munch of popcorn watching a movie.

 

[Winston]

There is a shortage of rain in Maryland in the DC area? Pretty wet around there isn't it! Often pretty cloudy too, so I wonder what good solar panels are?


I bet they have too. DC is one of their listed providers. Pretty odd to run a farm that you can only visit by appointment. No wonder business is bad.
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Look like a couple of real losers to me. It is a wonder Biden didn't take them for a lot more. He should have sold them a few windmills too. One provides snacks for a living and the other one watches flowers grow while chasing his dog around in the field. They look like a pair of dreamers looking for someone else to finance their idyllic fantasy life. I don't know that they will ever get Trump to release $70,000 to them so they can grow flowers.

LOL, I knew you would react like that, and you are not far off. Except for the fact that the business is legit. And it is some hard ass work. I mean there is not a crop out there that you plant it and forget it. Well maybe ginseng up here in Appalachia, but then you got to wait seven years and probably post armed guards 24/7.

But blooms? I mean that is what they sell. They sell out every year. Amazing actually, especially in light of international competition. Farming, anything, is tough. Commercial operations have consistently put the small operators out of business. And believe it or not, the loss of diversity is perhaps a bigger threat to mankind than global warming.

 

[toobfreak]

Yes, but that is not what we are talking about. Solar panels that destroy farm land puts electricity onto the grid.

I bet you could have grown a lot of flowers in all the space that $70,000 worth of panels takes up.

 

[JGalt]

All hell has broken loose because Trump is like a raging bull in a China shop. He is a flippin idiot and he has surrounded himself with a damn bunch of carnival barkers and circus clowns.

Oh look, Martha! It's another one of those social media influencers!

Wowsers! He must be very important!

 

[elektra]

They signed a contract with the US government and now Trump is breaking a contract with a valid reason to repair.

A immoral contract selling a product nobody wants or can afford. A product that exists because judges bypassed and changed laws in order to force us to buy the expensive electricity.

 

[Winston]

Flowers are a tough ass market? Do you know you can get wildflowers for free along any country road?
I can grow a buttload of pretty flowers with a single packet of seeds for a buck.
And if they are a successful business, why is it killing them just to have to wait a little bit for the taxpayers to foot the bill for a bunch of solar panels for them?

Along any country roadway, LOL. I bet you are a charmer.

Yes, commercial production, especially within the wedding market, it is cut-throat. I mean if it is me, well I would grow cotton and peanuts. Actually, a dairy farm is the way to go. But field crops, tomatoes, peppers, sweet corn, oh hell no. Way too much work. Flowers? You got to be kidding me. Those plants, each one of them, has to be touched every single day. You have no idea.

 

[toobfreak]

LOL, I knew you would react like that, and you are not far off. Except for the fact that the business is legit. And it is some hard ass work.

Growing flowers is hard work? I thought they grew all by themselves?

I mean there is not a crop out there that you plant it and forget it. Well maybe ginseng up here in Appalachia, but then you got to wait seven years and probably post armed guards 24/7.

7 years in minimal time for ginseng. 10-15 years will get you bigger, more valuable roots with a lot more ginsinosides in them. Asians pay out the ass for that stuff. Of course, real ginseng like red Panax is a lot better than white American ginseng.

But blooms? I mean that is what they sell. They sell out every year.

Then they should have no problems paying for all those panels Joe Bedpan sold them.

 

[toobfreak]

Along any country roadway, LOL. I bet you are a charmer.

Yes, commercial production, especially within the wedding market, it is cut-throat. I mean if it is me, well I would grow cotton and peanuts. Actually, a dairy farm is the way to go. But field crops, tomatoes, peppers, sweet corn, oh hell no. Way too much work. Flowers? You got to be kidding me. Those plants, each one of them, has to be touched every single day. You have no idea.

Yeah, what would I know. My aunt and Uncle had a 70 acre farm I grew up on and vacationed at every summer growing up and spent my life growing vegetable and flowers gardening for myself. I know all about soils, fertilizers and pH.

As to field crops, my Aunt and Uncle sharecropped. Grew a lot of corn and other stuff. Wasn't one bit of work for them.
You also need to know something of how to run a business. Tip #1: don't invest money in your business you don't need to or can't afford to lose hanging on the hopes that somehow, the government will pay for it all for you using other people's money.

 

[cnm]

I bet you could have grown a lot of flowers in all the space that $70,000 worth of panels takes up.

As though you had a clue.

 

[Moonglow]

A immoral contract selling a product nobody wants or can afford. A product that exists because judges bypassed and changed laws in order to force us to buy the expensive electricity.

Which law is that?
There is nothing immoral about energy production.

 

[cnm]

Then they should have no problems paying for all those panels Joe Bedpan sold them.

Except their cash flow forecast had an orange turd in it.

 

[cnm]

Yeah, what would I know. My aunt and Uncle had a 70 acre farm I grew up on and vacationed at every summer growing up and spent my life growing vegetable and flowers gardening for myself. I know all about soils, fertilizers and pH.

How to say one has never grown a commercial crop.