'Family Annihilators': When Conservative America's Fetish for Guns and Patriarchy Turns Deadly

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

of course a lot of the trannies who commit sex crimes only start identifying as such after they are pinched and see life in a ladies' penitentiary as a lot better option to continue their careers than in a men's prison

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There is that.

Those that survive, anyway. Looks like most of those in my post didn't.

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[Moonglow]

I call bullshit here. I am 67 years old, and I've never personally known anyone who wiped out their whole family with a firearm. I know of such cases, like done by Canadian boxer Chris Benoit.

But I don't know of any personally, and many are with people like the Canadians who are ultraliberal and gunophobic.

You should check out Okiehoma they have a great history of murder-suicides that include the entire family unit.

 

[Moonglow]

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And therefore 99% of other killings happened by straights. But hey.

 

[White 6]

Details please.

Do you believe that “toxic” liberalism isn't actual liberalism?

It can most definitely be toxic.
There is nothing constructive at either extreme and neither of the extremes should be quietly tolerated, as both extremes are equally destructive.

 

[Yarddog]

‘I’m not sure a more disturbing term exists than “family annihilator.” Every five days, according to an analysis by the Indianapolis Star, a person murders his family.

94 percent of the time, the killer is a man.

86 percent of the time, he uses a gun.

84 percent of the time, his victim is a woman.

And, notably, these killings happen largely in the South and the Midwest: the conservative swaths of the U.S. where guns are broadly accessible, and where gender roles are more traditional. The question of why men kill their families isn’t all that complicated. These men are often deep narcissists who demand subservience and control. But that sense of entitlement is not inborn; it’s cultural, and it comes from a society, and particular communities, that tell men it is their birthright to lead, to be in charge, to provide, and to enjoy the respect of women, children, and broader society.

This kind of entitlement is supercharged in conservative communities that enforce traditional gender roles, and the sense of humiliation that comes with perceived “emasculation” can be supercharged in return. Communities in which traditional marriage remains a chief aspiration may also see more women tying themselves to less-than-ideal men, and more men believing that marriage imbues them with vast rights over their wife’s agency, her body and her future. And then there are the guns. The very presence of a handgun in the house makes a person seven times more likely to be killed. And men who are insecure about their masculinity, and men with more sexist beliefs, are more likely to be gun proponents and gun owners. No wonder we see these killings so much more often in conservative states, where guns are easy to get and there’s a higher concentration of sexist, insecure men who expect their wives to behave.’

'Family Annihilators': When Conservative America’s Fetish for Guns and Patriarchy Turns Deadly - Ms. Magazine

Every five days, a person murders his family. We see these killings more in conservative states, with more guns and more sexist men.

msmagazine.com

The problem is conservativism, not guns.

Conservativism is the bane of the American nation.

And the way you write you would have everyone believe this is an everyday occurance , everywhere there are white conservative men,
Yet when you look at the actual numbers they show in a nation of 340 million people... total gun deaths from all causes is not even a tenth of a percent per year. It was about 39k in 2022....
yet you use your stats to demonize Men and Conservatives who would never dream of doing somthing like that..killing their families ... and your real issue with those people, is really other things, like their belief in traditional marriage etc.
You use your stats simply to put a large swath of Americans you disagree with down and you're not even correct.

 

[odanny]

399 mass shootings, slightly more than 24,000 gun related deaths as of July 22nd.

Gun Violence Archive

www.gunviolencearchive.org

 

[okfine]

You should check out Okiehoma they have a great history of murder-suicides that include the entire family unit.

Like Jimmy Johnsons In-Laws?

 

[odanny]

You should check out Okiehoma they have a great history of murder-suicides that include the entire family unit.

In all fairness, it is Oklahoma.

 

[Moonglow]

Like Jimmy Johnsons In-Laws?

Yes and a few others..

Family in Oklahoma murder-suicide faced financial pressures​

AP News
https://apnews.com › article › fires-homicide-oklahom...



Oct 31, 2022 — Family members say an Oklahoma couple considered “primary suspects” in last week's killings of their six children faced growing financial ...

7 people found dead in Oklahoma were shot in the head ...​

NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › news › us-news › 7-people-f...



May 3, 2023 — A convicted rapist on trial on child pornography charges is believed to have fatally shot six people, five of them teenagers, before he died ...

Deaths of 8 family members, including 6 children, found in ...​

CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com › Crime



Oct 28, 2022 — The children, who ranged in age from 1 to 13, were the victims, Broken Arrow Police Chief Brandon Berryhill said.

Mother and 3 children dead in possible Oklahoma murder- ...​

AZ Family
https://www.azfamily.com › 2023/07/21 › mother-3-chil...



2 days ago — The names of the victims weren't immediately released. The standoff began in the small town of Verdigris, a suburb east of Tulsa, when a police ...

NASCAR driver's in-laws killed in possible Oklahoma ...​

KOCO
https://www.koco.com › article › oklahoma-muskogee...



Jun 27, 2023 — Police say three people, including an 11-year-old boy, are dead after a possible murder-suicide Monday night in Muskogee.

3 dead from suspected murder-suicide in Muskogee ...​

KJRH
https://www.kjrh.com › news › local-news › police-in...



Jun 27, 2023 — Officers arrived at the house to find a person lying inside the front door. MPD says they then heard another gunshot from further inside the ...

Mother and 3 Children Dead in Possible Oklahoma Murder ...​

U.S. News & World Report
https://www.usnews.com › News › U.S. News®



2 days ago — VERDIGRIS, Okla. (AP) — A woman and her three children were found dead in an Oklahoma home Thursday evening in what may be a murder-suicide ...

Jimmy Johnson's in-laws found dead in Oklahoma murder ...​

YouTube
https://www.youtube.com › watch



Jun 29, 2023 — Jack Janway, 69, Terry Janway, 68, and Dalton Janway, 11, were found dead in what police are describing as a murder-suicide.

8 people found at burning home in Oklahoma were shot​

NPR
https://www.npr.org › 2023/04/25 › 8-members-of-an-o...



Apr 25, 2023 — — Preliminary autopsy reports show eight members of an Oklahoma family found dead inside their burning home were each shot. The bodies of Brian ...

Oklahoma murder-suicide leaves children, ages 5 months ...​

KFOR
https://kfor.com › video › oklahoma-murder-suicide-lea...



Local · Clara Luper teacher institute equips educators · OKC reopens after closing for canine flu · Charges filed in deadly Norman road rage shooting · Body found ...

 

[Moonglow]

In all fairness, it is Oklahoma.

Damn, Baptist.

 

[Mac-7]

‘I’m not sure a more disturbing term exists than “family annihilator.” Every five days, according to an analysis by the Indianapolis Star, a person murders his family.

94 percent of the time, the killer is a man.

86 percent of the time, he uses a gun.

84 percent of the time, his victim is a woman.

And, notably, these killings happen largely in the South and the Midwest: the conservative swaths of the U.S. where guns are broadly accessible, and where gender roles are more traditional. The question of why men kill their families isn’t all that complicated. These men are often deep narcissists who demand subservience and control. But that sense of entitlement is not inborn; it’s cultural, and it comes from a society, and particular communities, that tell men it is their birthright to lead, to be in charge, to provide, and to enjoy the respect of women, children, and broader society.

This kind of entitlement is supercharged in conservative communities that enforce traditional gender roles, and the sense of humiliation that comes with perceived “emasculation” can be supercharged in return. Communities in which traditional marriage remains a chief aspiration may also see more women tying themselves to less-than-ideal men, and more men believing that marriage imbues them with vast rights over their wife’s agency, her body and her future. And then there are the guns. The very presence of a handgun in the house makes a person seven times more likely to be killed. And men who are insecure about their masculinity, and men with more sexist beliefs, are more likely to be gun proponents and gun owners. No wonder we see these killings so much more often in conservative states, where guns are easy to get and there’s a higher concentration of sexist, insecure men who expect their wives to behave.’

'Family Annihilators': When Conservative America’s Fetish for Guns and Patriarchy Turns Deadly - Ms. Magazine

Every five days, a person murders his family. We see these killings more in conservative states, with more guns and more sexist men.

msmagazine.com

The problem is conservativism, not guns.

Conservativism is the bane of the American nation.

OJ killed Nicole in california and used a knife

 

[okfine]

‘I’m not sure a more disturbing term exists than “family annihilator.” Every five days, according to an analysis by the Indianapolis Star, a person murders his family.

94 percent of the time, the killer is a man.

86 percent of the time, he uses a gun.

84 percent of the time, his victim is a woman.

And, notably, these killings happen largely in the South and the Midwest: the conservative swaths of the U.S. where guns are broadly accessible, and where gender roles are more traditional. The question of why men kill their families isn’t all that complicated. These men are often deep narcissists who demand subservience and control. But that sense of entitlement is not inborn; it’s cultural, and it comes from a society, and particular communities, that tell men it is their birthright to lead, to be in charge, to provide, and to enjoy the respect of women, children, and broader society.

This kind of entitlement is supercharged in conservative communities that enforce traditional gender roles, and the sense of humiliation that comes with perceived “emasculation” can be supercharged in return. Communities in which traditional marriage remains a chief aspiration may also see more women tying themselves to less-than-ideal men, and more men believing that marriage imbues them with vast rights over their wife’s agency, her body and her future. And then there are the guns. The very presence of a handgun in the house makes a person seven times more likely to be killed. And men who are insecure about their masculinity, and men with more sexist beliefs, are more likely to be gun proponents and gun owners. No wonder we see these killings so much more often in conservative states, where guns are easy to get and there’s a higher concentration of sexist, insecure men who expect their wives to behave.’

'Family Annihilators': When Conservative America’s Fetish for Guns and Patriarchy Turns Deadly - Ms. Magazine

Every five days, a person murders his family. We see these killings more in conservative states, with more guns and more sexist men.

msmagazine.com

The problem is conservativism, not guns.

Conservativism is the bane of the American nation.

Let me add in that the rate of divorce is higher in the South than it is in the Midwest. The reason for that is more (and younger) couples marry in the South. So many of those divorces are due to domestic violence. Many of those relationships end violently with the use of a firearm, before and after divorcing. Now for the Familicides, which are actually more rare, stem from domestic violence perpetuated by the man who then punishes the children. In short it's an entitlement issue, "I can't have her and neither can you"