False: The House Bill Requires Suicide Counseling

[VaYank5150]

False: The House Bill Requires Suicide Counseling
This claim is nonsense. In an appearance on former Sen. Fred Thompson's radio show, McCaughey also enthusiastically pushed the bogus claim that the House bill will require seniors to have regular counseling sessions on how to end their lives:

McCaughey, July 16: The Congress would make it mandatory … that every five years, people in Medicare have a required counseling session that will tell them how to end their life sooner, how to decline nutrition, how to decline being hydrated, how to go into hospice care … all to do what's in society's best interest … and cut your life short.

This is a misrepresentation. What the bill actually provides for is voluntary Medicare-funded end-of-life counseling. In other words, if seniors choose to make advance decisions about the type of care and treatments they wish to receive at the end of their lives, Medicare will pay for them to sit down with their doctor and discuss their preferences. There is no requirement to attend regular sessions, and there is absolutely no provision encouraging euthanasia.

Of course, seniors who talk to their doctors about end-of-life care might well choose to discuss what types of life-saving treatment they wish to refuse. That choice has been federally guaranteed for almost 20 years. Euthanasia, on the other hand, is legal in only three states, making it even more unlikely to be a major part of the federal health plan.

Seven Falsehoods About Health Care Reform | Newsweek Politics | Newsweek.com

 

[WillowTree]

if your DUmb guy had been smart he would have had all this stuff ironed out and clarified and explained before he tried his cram down! but,, he wasn't smart.

 

[VaYank5150]

if your DUmb guy had been smart he would have had all this stuff ironed out and clarified and explained before he tried his cram down!

If you idiots could READ, or more accurately cared enough to read, as opposed to employing fear mongering, lying and obstructionist tactics, we would not even be discussing this now would we. Just look how stupid you idiots look now.

 

[WillowTree]

if your DUmb guy had been smart he would have had all this stuff ironed out and clarified and explained before he tried his cram down!

If you idiots could READ, or more accurately cared enough to read, as opposed to employing fear mongering, lying and obstructionist tactics, we would not even be discussing this now would we. Just look how stupid you idiots look now.

we are not the leader, he is,, and one of your own DUmb Democrats congresscritter said he can't read it either, but the dumbazz is gonna sign it.. good for the party of KNOW to obstruct something as idiotic as what you are trying to cram down

 

[Political Junky]

The Associated Press: Bill Clinton: GOP promotes fear over health care

Bill Clinton: GOP promotes fear over health care
By DAN NEPHIN (AP) – 12 hours ago
PITTSBURGH — Republicans have turned to terrifying people in the debate over overhauling the health care system because the GOP has no political clout to fight it, former President Bill Clinton told a gathering of progressive bloggers on Thursday.
Clinton was president when the Democrats made their last major effort to change the health care system. The big difference now, Clinton said, is that Democrats have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate as well as control of the House.
The former president called "crazy" the charges that promoting living wills and other end-of-life planning is somehow promoting death.
Clinton spoke at the opening session of the Netroots Nation convention, a gathering of politically progressive bloggers and other online activists.
He urged the crowd to support President Barack Obama on health care reform, along with climate change legislation and other reforms.
"The president needs your help and the cause needs your help," Clinton said. "We have to preserve this progress majority now."
However, he advised them that change may not come as fast as they want and that they may have to accept smaller victories as they continue to work for their goals.
Clinton said that it was all right to hold politicians' feet to the fire in terms of their promises but that it should be done to get work done.
"You hold the seeds of a genuine revolution in our public life and you do it by mobilizing people and generating emotion but also by getting people to think," Clinton told the gathering.
He said the United States had entered a new age of progressive politics that could last several decades in the right circumstances.
On a lighter note, Clinton joked that the great thing about being a former president was being able to whatever he wanted. The terrible thing was that no one listens, "unless your wife is secretary of state, then they really care."
It was an apparent reference to the fuss made over Hillary Rodham Clinton's rebuke earlier this week to a Congolese student in Kinshasa who asked her for the opinion of her husband about an international economic issue.
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[VaYank5150]

[but the dumbazz is gonna sign it.. /QUOTE]

Are you always this stupid WT? There is NOTHING to sign yet. Or are you now claiming not only to be an asshole, but a mind reader as well?

 

[pal_of_poor]

All that section of the bill does is 'offers' voluntary counseling, as to whether any unusual measures will be taken to prolong your life.
IT offers to pay for it. The talk is between you, and the doctor of your choice, and you can then choose to be hooked up to tubes, or whatever, and lay in bed an extra five years, with zero quality of life, and then die anyway.
Why is it the religious people always seem the most afriad of crossing over? Maybe they feel they've been bad, and are going to burn in hell because of their selfish opinions, I don't know.
Once again, it is totally voluntary, you can choose the doctor, and then YOU decide what to do.

So, what's the problem with that? If God wants you to die, then really hooking yourself up to all these machines is the unnatural thing, and by the way, puts an incredible burden on your family too.

 

[VaYank5150]

So, what's the problem with that?

Because the GOP "base" equate voluntarily to mandatory, is the only thing I can come up with....