Faith Is A Simple Test: To Find Out If You Are Teachable?

[JAG]

Hmm... God talks to you? Okay, I can't account for that.

See the bolded red below:

JAG Writes:
The core principle of Christianity is Love. We can see the Love Principle
made clear in First Corinthians chapter 13.

Here are the characteristics of the Principle Of Love as presented in
First Corinthians chapter 13.

{1} Love is patient.
{2} Love is kind.
{3} Love does not envy.
{4} Love does not boast.
{5} Love is not proud.
{6} Love is not rude.
{7} Love is not self-seeking.
{8} Love is not easily angered.
{9} Love keeps no record of wrongs.
{10} Love does not delight in evil.
{11} Love rejoices with the truth.
{12} Love always protects.
{13} Love always trusts.
{14} Love always hopes.
{15} Love always perseveres.
{16} Love never fails.
{17} These three remain: faith, hope, and love.
{18} But the greatest of these is Love.

Threads on the Internet At Large are characterized by those 18
demonstrations of Love, aren't they?

There is not any hateful ugly squabbling, haggling, and bickering that
goes on between Opponents inside Thread World on the Internet
At Large, is there?

Inside Thread World on the Internet At Large there is not a never
ending Cannibalistic Feast of biting and devouring one another going
on, is there? Thread World on the Internet At large is not The Land Of
The Cannibals, is it? Rather Thread World is characterized by love,
kindness, compassion, empathy, sympathy, and a charitable reading
of each other's posts, isn't it?

Inside Thread World on The Internet At Large, there is hardly ever
any harshness, resentment, hateful criticism, denunciation,
accusations, loathing, disgruntlement, snide and snippy one-liner
responses to posts, insults, and generally unpleasant tones and
attitudes towards everybody that disagrees with each other on most
any subject, is there?
\Best.

JAG


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[james bond]

Lmao!!! No, I didn't.

But your desperation to fit me into your mold is amusing.

>>Faith Is A Simple Test: To Find Out If You Are Gullible.<<

Now, you're backing down from your big mouth snipe. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that you're agnostic which means you don't know or are ignorant.

There is no proof and no evidence of no God/gods, i.e. God/gods NOT EXISTING. The atheist has "faith" in no God/gods for personal or whatever reasons. Atheism is a religion for them. The atheist is gullible based on your test. Are you gullible lol?

 

[james bond]

you don't need evidence of no evidence
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA

You make no sense whatsoever because you are a nincompoop. Emphasis on the POOP for brainz.

The atheist needs to provide evidence that God/gods do not exist. For example, they need to disprove how Jesus was resurrected from his tomb in which a huge boulder was moved and his body disappeared. There were guards posted by Pilate and they witnessed it. Another would be show the great flood didn't happen. The believers have Pangea separating into continents, the continental drift (creation science) and the Earth 3/4 covered with oceans. We have animals and humans traveling to all the corners of the worlds. There is evidence of other supernatural events.

So run you poop for brainz. You have no explanation.

 

[harmonica]

You make no sense whatsoever because you are a nincompoop. Emphasis on the POOP for brainz.

The atheist needs to provide evidence that God/gods do not exist. For example, they need to disprove how Jesus was resurrected from his tomb in which a huge boulder was moved and his body disappeared. There were guards posted by Pilate and they witnessed it. Another would be show the great flood didn't happen. The believers have Pangea separating into continents, the continental drift (creation science) and the Earth 3/4 covered with oceans. We have animals and humans traveling to all the corners of the worlds. There is evidence of other supernatural events.

So run you poop for brainz. You have no explanation.

you keep proving christians are bigots and haters

 

[Crepitus]

>>Faith Is A Simple Test: To Find Out If You Are Gullible.<<

Now, you're backing down from your big mouth snipe. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that you're agnostic which means you don't know or are ignorant.

There is no proof and no evidence of no God/gods, i.e. God/gods NOT EXISTING. The atheist has "faith" in no God/gods for personal or whatever reasons. Atheism is a religion for them. The atheist is gullible based on your test. Are you gullible lol?

I am atheist. I have no faith in any god. That is my opinion. Don't get reasoned opinions confused with faith.

BTW, logic doesn't support statements like "there is no proof god doesn't exist". If it did I could say things like "there is No proof you aren't aren't an axe-murdering Taliban spy who survives by drinking the blood of the unborn" with just as much validity as your denial.

Gotta watch those slopes, kid. They can get pretty slippery.

 

[james bond]

I am atheist. I have no faith in any god. That is my opinion. Don't get reasoned opinions confused with faith.

BTW, logic doesn't support statements like "there is no proof god doesn't exist". If it did I could say things like "there is No proof you aren't aren't an axe-murdering Taliban spy who survives by drinking the blood of the unborn" with just as much validity as your denial.

Gotta watch those slopes, kid. They can get pretty slippery.

Even if it just opinion, it led to a belief in no God/gods when there is no evidence whatsoever. At least, I have the Bible and creation science which my faith in God led me to. To be an atheist, one has to have faith in what they disbelieve. Atheism is a religion and is founded upon beliefs of the left. It could be because you don't like what God represents, i.e. ultimate authority, or you are a liberal and politics or a ocular sinister/leftist belief led you to it.

Otherwise, there really isn't much for you to criticize of the believers since science backs the Bible up and most of the top scientists were creationists. To be a strong atheist, one has to have it deeper down.

 

[Crepitus]

Even if it just opinion, it led to a belief in no God/gods when there is no evidence whatsoever. At least, I have the Bible and creation science which my faith in God led me to. To be an atheist, one has to have faith in what they disbelieve. Atheism is a religion and is founded upon beliefs of the left. It could be because you don't like what God represents, i.e. ultimate authority, or you are a liberal and politics or a ocular sinister/leftist belief led you to it.

Otherwise, there really isn't much for you to criticize of the believers since science backs the Bible up and most of the top scientists were creationists. To be a strong atheist, one has to have it deeper down.

You've missed part of the post:

"BTW, logic doesn't support statements like "there is no proof god doesn't exist". If it did I could say things like "there is No proof you aren't aren't an axe-murdering Taliban spy who survives by drinking the blood of the unborn" with just as much validity as your denial."

 

[Clyde 154]

Clyde 154 you fkd up
1. yes--yes---key word -BELIEVE = NO PROOF
2. most of the world doesn't believe in christianity --- you have MANY beliefs = it's all made up-fake - you can make up anything
a. christianity has many different beliefs
3. the christians rape children!!!! then the hierarchy tried to cover it up!!
..the ''christians'' TORTURED people
..the christians punished someone for saying the Earth is not the center of the universe
= they keep changing their beliefs/THEY can't follow their own rules/they change their rules
4. still, you have not proven there is a god

My faith is based upon prima facie evidence....its not blind. You got me "sparky"....its clear that I am dealing with a mental giant.

Belief with no proof? You mean like the BLIND FAITH you follow "Once upon a time there was this cosmic egg........that came from no where and created the entire known universe.....nobody knows where it came from, how long it existed, they just KNOW that it must have been around for eons before it suddenly exploded at the speed of light and created all the stars which in turn created all the known elements which in turn eventually created biological life from GAS? That kind of proof?

It appears that its you and your Chicom buddies that have a little problem with EVIDENCE. Simply present the 1st scientific experiment based upon the Scientific Method that falsifies the CREATION MODEL........whereas there are countless attempts using the scientific method to validate Abiogenesis (life creating itself from dead matter and energy) that have been falsified. If not present the experiment that validates life and evolution from dead matter.

Looks like proving YOUR FAITH is weak........very weak.
Of course the CHICOMS have never heard of "PRIMA FACIE" evidence? There is no such thing as the Gregorian Calendar, nor is there any historical record of eyewitness accounts collected and bond through a scientific analytical process such as a "Canon"......called the Holy Bible.

People are sent to prison every day in the US sentenced upon nothing but prima facie evidence based upon "eyewitness" first hand accounts of the event in question.

All you have to do to prove this PRIMA FACIE evidence invalid is produce the Objective, Testable, Reproducible, and consistent evidence that proves these eyewitness accounts to be lies. LUCK!

The New Testament is called a "testament" for a reason.......Its a record of 1st hand testimony.

Such as, "And the things which thou hast heard from me AMONG MANY WITNESSES, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also." -- 2 Tim. 2:2

Or, "For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were EYEWITNESSES OF HIS MAJESTY." -- 2 Peter 1:6

Now disprove these first hand accounts with any objective information you can produce through Applied Science or History Actual.

 

[harmonica]

My faith is based upon prima facie evidence....its not blind. You got me "sparky"....its clear that I am dealing with a mental giant.

Belief with no proof? You mean like the BLIND FAITH you follow "Once upon a time there was this cosmic egg........that came from no where and created the entire known universe.....nobody knows where it came from, how long it existed, they just KNOW that it must have been around for eons before it suddenly exploded at the speed of light and created all the stars which in turn created all the known elements which in turn eventually created biological life from GAS? That kind of proof?

It appears that its you and your Chicom buddies that have a little problem with EVIDENCE. Simply present the 1st scientific experiment based upon the Scientific Method that falsifies the CREATION MODEL........whereas there are countless attempts using the scientific method to validate Abiogenesis (life creating itself from dead matter and energy) that have been falsified. If not present the experiment that validates life and evolution from dead matter.

Looks like proving YOUR FAITH is weak........very weak.
Of course the CHICOMS have never heard of "PRIMA FACIE" evidence? There is no such thing as the Gregorian Calendar, nor is there any historical record of eyewitness accounts collected and bond through a scientific analytical process such as a "Canon"......called the Holy Bible.

People are sent to prison every day in the US sentenced upon nothing but prima facie evidence based upon "eyewitness" first hand accounts of the event in question.

All you have to do to prove this PRIMA FACIE evidence invalid is produce the Objective, Testable, Reproducible, and consistent evidence that proves these eyewitness accounts to be lies. LUCK!

The New Testament is called a "testament" for a reason.......Its a record of 1st hand testimony.

Such as, "And the things which thou hast heard from me AMONG MANY WITNESSES, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also." -- 2 Tim. 2:2

Or, "For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were EYEWITNESSES OF HIS MAJESTY." -- 2 Peter 1:6

Now disprove these first hand accounts with any objective information you can produce through Applied Science or History Actual.

..you're cosmic egg babble is no proof of god
..what first hand accounts?? from the babble crap bible??? the bible is NOTHING close to being proof --HAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHAH

faith:
''''firm belief in something for which there is no proof'''''

Definition of FAITH

allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty; fidelity to one's promises; sincerity of intentions… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[james bond]

You've missed part of the post:

"BTW, logic doesn't support statements like "there is no proof god doesn't exist". If it did I could say things like "there is No proof you aren't aren't an axe-murdering Taliban spy who survives by drinking the blood of the unborn" with just as much validity as your denial."

Logic plays a part in Christianity, but may or may not have to do with atheism. However, history has shown faith in the Christian God has led to great advancements in science, a great history for the Jewish people (as well as great evil or sin such as worshipping the golden calf or other false idols. Do you know placing false idols before God is one of the top things God hates and punished the Jews (his people) for? There was also great politics and conquering riches for most of the Jewish kings except few practiced false idolatry.

Instead of proof, what I said was evidence. It wasn't until the 1850s that uniformitarianism and social Darwinism came into prominence. That led to the lying atheist science of evolution and evolutionary thinking. Only natural selection created by God was true and it was used to bring evolution and evolutionary thinking into prominence. That led the atheists into Nazism and the Holocaust with the rise of Hitler to power in the 1930s. History gives us evidence that God plays a part as well as the rise of atheism.

One of the evidence Christianity has is Jesus' resurrection. There were Pilate's guards at his tomb, but he was able to move a huge stone and be resurrected. To the contrary, evolution and evolutionary thinking doesn't have the evidence because it is a lie. There are no ape-humans today and monkeys still are not bipedal. Without the evidence, there shouldn't be belief or faith in evolution as science.

 

[Crepitus]

Logic plays a part in Christianity, but may or may not have to do with atheism. However, history has shown faith in the Christian God has led to great advancements in science, a great history for the Jewish people (as well as great evil or sin such as worshipping the golden calf or other false idols. Do you know placing false idols before God is one of the top things God hates and punished the Jews (his people) for? There was also great politics and conquering riches for most of the Jewish kings except few practiced false idolatry.

Instead of proof, what I said was evidence. It wasn't until the 1850s that uniformitarianism and social Darwinism came into prominence. That led to the lying atheist science of evolution and evolutionary thinking. Only natural selection created by God was true and it was used to bring evolution and evolutionary thinking into prominence. That led the atheists into Nazism and the Holocaust with the rise of Hitler to power in the 1930s. History gives us evidence that God plays a part as well as the rise of atheism.

One of the evidence Christianity has is Jesus' resurrection. There were Pilate's guards at his tomb, but he was able to move a huge stone and be resurrected. To the contrary, evolution and evolutionary thinking doesn't have the evidence because it is a lie. There are no ape-humans today and monkeys still are not bipedal. Without the evidence, there shouldn't be belief or faith in evolution as science.

You are neither applying logic nor supporting your statement that it plays a part in Christianity.

 

[james bond]

You are neither applying logic nor supporting your statement that it plays a part in Christianity.

I am. The golden calf is something everyone has heard in America. It goes against the first commandment --

“You shall have no other gods before Me.”​

The first commandment tells us to put God first, so we find out what God hates. Atheism puts no God/gods in front of God as part of their faith. God hates atheism.. That's part of the logic.

If it's only your opinion, then you shouldn't care. It means you are a weak atheist. However, a strong atheist has faith and somehow the Bible or truth bugs them to the point they have to express their strong atheism. They think the golden calf such as evolution and evolutionary thinking is okay and worth fighting about.

 

[Crepitus]

I am. The golden calf is something everyone has heard in America. It goes against the first commandment --

“You shall have no other gods before Me.”​

The first commandment tells us to put God first, so we find out what God hates. Atheism puts no God/gods in front of God as part of their faith. God hates atheism.. That's part of the logic.

If it's only your opinion, then you shouldn't care. It means you are a weak atheist. However, a strong atheist has faith and somehow the Bible or truth bugs them to the point they have to express their strong atheism. They think the golden calf such as evolution and evolutionary thinking is okay and worth fighting about.

See that's not logic, son.

 

[james bond]

See that's not logic, son.

What can I say? You'll get it after you die.

 

[james bond]

My conclusion is atheists aren't teachable because of their faith in no God/gods.

 

[Crepitus]

What can I say? You'll get it after you die.

That's gonna be kinda difficult.

 

[onefour1]

From the Lectures on Faith by Joseph Smith, Jr.

Faith Defined​

Lecture First​

1 Faith being the first principle in revealed religion, and the foundation of all righteousness, necessarily claims the first place in a course of lectures which are designed to unfold to the understanding the doctrine of Jesus Christ.

2 In presenting the subject of faith, we shall observe the following order:

3 First, Faith itself—what it is:

4 Secondly, The object on which it rests; and

5 Thirdly, The effects which flow from it.

6 Agreeably to this order we have first to show what faith is.

7 The author of the epistle to the Hebrews, in the eleventh chapter of that epistle, and first verse, gives the following definition of the word faith:

8 Now faith is the substance [assurance] of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

9 From this we learn, that faith is the assurance which men have of the existence of things which they have not seen; and the principle of action in all intelligent beings.

10 If men were duly to consider themselves, and turn their thoughts and reflections to the operations of their own minds, they would readily discover that it is faith, and faith only, which is the moving cause of all action, in them; that without it, both mind and body would be in a state of inactivity, and all their exertions would cease, both physical and mental.

11 Were this class to go back and reflect upon the history of their lives, from the period of their first recollection, and ask themselves, what principle excited them to action, or what gave them energy and activity, in all their lawful avocations, callings and pursuits, what would be the answer? Would it not be that it was the assurance which we had of the existence of things which we had not seen, as yet?—Was it not the hope which you had, in consequence of your belief in the existence of unseen things, which stimulated you to action and exertion, in order to obtain them? Are you not dependent on your faith, or belief, for the acquisition of all knowledge, wisdom and intelligence? Would you exert yourselves to obtain wisdom and intelligence, unless you did believe that you could obtain them? Would you have ever sown if you had not believed that you would reap? Would you have ever planted if you had not believed that you would gather? Would you have ever asked unless you had believed that you would receive? Would you have ever sought unless you had believed that you would have found? Or would you have ever knocked unless you had believed that it would have been opened unto you? In a word, is there any thing that you would have done, either physical or mental, if you had not previously believed? Are not all your exertions, of every kind, dependent on your faith? Or may we not ask, what have you, or what do you possess, which you have not obtained by reason of your faith? Your food, your raiment, your lodgings, are they not all by reason of your faith? Reflect, and ask yourselves, if these things are not so. Turn your thoughts on your own minds, and see if faith is not the moving cause of all action in yourselves; and if the moving cause in you, is it not in all other intelligent beings?

12 And as faith is the moving cause of all action in temporal concerns, so it is in spiritual; for the Savior has said, and that truly, that he that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved. (Mark 16:16)

13 As we receive by faith, all temporal blessings that we do receive, so we, in like manner, receive by faith all spiritual blessings, that we do receive. But faith is not only the principle of action, but of power, also, in all intelligent beings, whether in heaven, or on earth. Thus says the author of the epistle to the Hebrews. (11:3):

14 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God: so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

15 By this we understand that the principle of power, which existed in the bosom of God, by which the worlds were framed, was faith; and that it is by reason of this principle of power, existing in the Deity, that all created things exist—so that all things in heaven, on earth, or under the earth, exist by reason of faith, as it existed in HIM.

16 Had it not been for the principle of faith the worlds would never have been framed, neither would man have been formed of the dust—it is the principle by which Jehovah works, and through which he exercises power over all temporal, as well as eternal things. Take this principle or attribute, (for it is an attribute) from the Deity and he would cease to exist.

17 Who cannot see, that if God framed the worlds by faith, that it is by faith that he exercises power over them, and that faith is the principle of power? And that if the principle of power, it must be so in man as well as in the Deity? This is the testimony of all the sacred writers, and the lesson which they have been endeavoring to teach to man.

18 The Savior says, (Matthew 17:19-20), in explaining the reason why the disciples could not cast out the devil, that it was because of their unbelief: "For verily, I say unto you," said he, "if ye have faith as a grain of mustard-seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place! and it shall remove: and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

19 Moroni, while abridging and compiling the record of his fathers, has given us the following account of faith as the principle of power: He says, in Ether 12:13, that it was the faith of Alma and Amulek which caused the walls of the prison to be wrent, as recorded in Alma 14:23-29; it was the faith of Nephi and Lehi which caused a change to be wrought upon the hearts of the Lamanites, when they were immersed with the Holy Spirit, and with fire, as seen in Helaman 5:37-50; and that it was by faith that the mountain Zerin was removed, when the brother of Jared spake in the name of the Lord. See also Ether 12:30.

20 In addition to this we are told in Hebrews, 11:32-35, that Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel, and the prophets, through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens; and that women received their dead raised to life again, etc.

21 Also, Joshua, in the sight of all Israel, bade the sun and moon to stand still, and it was done. (Joshua 10:12)

22 We here understand, that the sacred writers say, that all these things were done by faith—It was by faith that the worlds were framed—God spake, chaos heard, and worlds came into order, by reason of the faith there was in HIM. So with man also—he spake by faith in the name of God, and the sun stood still, the moon obeyed, mountains removed, prisons fell, lions' mouths were closed, the human heart lost its enmity, fire its violence, armies their power, the sword its terror, and death its dominion; and all this by reason of the faith which was in them.

23 Had it not been for the faith which was in man, they might have spoken to the sun, the moon, the mountains, prisons, lions, the human heart, fire, armies, the sword, or to death in vain!

24 Faith, then, is the first great governing principle which has power, dominion, and authority over all things: by it they exist, by it they are upheld, by it they are changed, or by it they remain, agreeably to the will of God. Without it, there is no power, and without power there could be no creation, nor existence!

---

Questions & Answers on the Foregoing Principles​

Question 1: What is theology?
It is that revealed science which treats of the being and attributes of God, his relations to us, the dispensations of his providence, his will with respect to our actions and his purposes with respect to our end. (Buck's Theological Dictionary, page 582)

Question 2: What is the first principle in this revealed science?
Faith. (1:1)

Question 3: Why is faith the first principle in this revealed science?
Because it is the foundation of all righteousness. Hebrews 11:6: Without faith it is impossible to please God. 1 John 3:7: Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness, is righteous, even as he [God] is righteous. (1:1)

Question 4: What arrangement should be followed in presenting the subject of faith?
First, Should be shown what faith is: (1:3)
Secondly, The object upon which it rests; and (1:4)
Thirdly, The effects which flow from it. (1:5)

Question 5: What is faith?
It is the assurance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen: Hebrews 11:1. That is, it is the assurance we have of the existence of unseen things. And being the assurance which we have of the existence of unseen things, must be the principle of action in all intelligent beings. Hebrews 11:3: Through faith we understand the worlds were framed by the word of God. (1:8-9)

Question 6: How do you prove that faith is the principle of action in all intelligent beings?
First, By duly considering the operations of my own mind; and secondly, by the direct declaration of scripture. Hebrews 11:7: By faith Noah, being warned of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. Hebrews 11:8: By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out not knowing whither he went. Hebrews 11:9: By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise. Hebrews 11:27: By faith Moses forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured as seeing him who is invisible. (1:10-11)

Question 7: Is not faith the principle of action in spiritual things as well as in temporal?
It is.

Question 8: How do you prove it?
Hebrews 11:6: Without faith it is impossible to please God. Mark 16:16: He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved. Rom. 4:16: Therefore, it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed: not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all. (1:12-13)

Question 9: Is faith any thing else beside the principle of action?
It is.

Question 10: What is it?
It is the principle of power, also (1:13)

Question 11: How do you prove it?
First, It is the principle of power in the Deity, as well as in man. Hebrews 11:3: Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (1:14-16)

Secondly, It is the principle of power in man also. Book of Mormon, Alma 14:23-29: Alma and Amulek are delivered from prison. Helaman 5:37-50: Nephi and Lehi, with the Lamanites, are immersed with the Spirit. Ether 12:30: The mountain Zerin, by the faith of the brother of Jared, is removed. Joshua 10:12: Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon, and thou Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. Joshua 10:13: And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves of their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. Matthew 17:19: Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? Matthew 17:20: And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, if ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Hebrews 11:32 and the following verses: And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gideon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthah, of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. Women received their dead raised to life again, and other were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection. (1:16-22)

Question 12: How would you define faith in its most unlimited sense?
It is the first great governing principle, which has power, dominion, and authority over all things. (1:24)

Question 13: How do you convey to the understanding more clearly, that faith is the first great governing principle, which has power, dominion and authority over all things?
By it they exist, by it they are upheld, by it they are changed, or by it they remain, agreeably to the will of God; and without it there is no power; and without power there could be no creation, nor existence! (1:24)

 

[james bond]

That's gonna be kinda difficult.

That's your faith talking. My faith says Jesus will come again to fulfill his prophecies. What's important is Jesus was the suffering servant with his first coming. With the second, he will be the conquering king and have the armies of heaven by his side. It will be glorious.

“I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. ‘He will rule them with an iron scepter.’ He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.” Revelation 19:11-16

That said, it will be difficult for the unbelievers as they receive everlasting punishment in a temporary hell and then a permanent one.

 

[Crepitus]

That's your faith talking. My faith says Jesus will come again to fulfill his prophecies. What's important is Jesus was the suffering servant with his first coming. With the second, he will be the conquering king and have the armies of heaven by his side. It will be glorious.

“I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. ‘He will rule them with an iron scepter.’ He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.” Revelation 19:11-16

That said, it will be difficult for the unbelievers as they receive everlasting punishment in a temporary hell and then a permanent one.

Stop projecting your religious nonsense onto me please.

 

[frigidweirdo]

If it turns out that you are not teachable, then obviously you
know more than God knows and there will be no place for you
in God's Heaven. Heaven can only have one Supreme Being.
A Supreme Being that will never consent to become a student
to be taught wisdom and truths by one of His creatures.

Agree?
Disagree?
Thoughts?



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Religion is a test to see how easy you are to manipulate.

When you get people to accept total nonsense, then you know they're yours.