Fact checking SNAP misinformation.

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The article is too long to post all the fact checks so I just went with the first one.

Fact-Checking Misinformation About SNAP​

What Was Said

“I will say about SNAP benefits, so when I was president, we had $7 billion worth and now they have many times that because these benefits were given to anybody that asked. And they’re up to, I hear, just many times, $47 billion.”
— Mr. Trump, at a breakfast with Republican senators on Wednesday

“Biden went totally crazy, gave it to anybody that would ask, gave it to people that were able-bodied, had no problem.”
— Mr. Trump, at a White House dinner on Thursday

False. None of Mr. Trump’s figures are accurate. Federal spending on SNAP began increasing under Mr. Trump and continued to increase under President Joseph R. Biden Jr., but not by “many times.” The Biden administration also did not give benefits to “anybody that asked,” as Mr. Trump said, and the number of people participating actually reached a higher point under Mr. Trump.

Eligibility is based on financial need — the income limit is broadly 130 percent of the federal poverty line — and beneficiaries are also subject to reporting rules and work requirements. During the coronavirus pandemic, emergency legislation temporarily and partly suspended a longstanding work requirement for “able-bodied” adults without dependents. That occurred in March 2020, under the Trump administration, and the suspension ended in 2023. In fact, the Biden administration agreed to add stricter work requirements to SNAP under a deal with Republican lawmakers in 2023.

Some groups of authorized immigrants, such as refugees and children, qualify for SNAP, while adult green card holders typically must wait five years to become eligible; by law, unauthorized immigrants are ineligible. Those general parameters did not change under the Biden administration. The administration did increase access for some groups — veterans, homeless people and young adults transitioning out of the foster care system — as part of that 2023 deal.


The recent discussions on the board about SNAP and ACA tax subsidy extensions have one thing in common. Namely, the false belief on the part of trump devotees that immigrants here are unlawfully receiving both SNAP benefits and ACA plan coverage. No doubt in part due to demonstrable lies like this from a prez who routinely spreads misinformation........“Biden went totally crazy, gave it to anybody that would ask, gave it to people that were able-bodied, had no problem.”
 
The article is too long to post all the fact checks so I just went with the first one.

Fact-Checking Misinformation About SNAP​

What Was Said

“I will say about SNAP benefits, so when I was president, we had $7 billion worth and now they have many times that because these benefits were given to anybody that asked. And they’re up to, I hear, just many times, $47 billion.”
— Mr. Trump, at a breakfast with Republican senators on Wednesday

“Biden went totally crazy, gave it to anybody that would ask, gave it to people that were able-bodied, had no problem.”
— Mr. Trump, at a White House dinner on Thursday

False. None of Mr. Trump’s figures are accurate. Federal spending on SNAP began increasing under Mr. Trump and continued to increase under President Joseph R. Biden Jr., but not by “many times.” The Biden administration also did not give benefits to “anybody that asked,” as Mr. Trump said, and the number of people participating actually reached a higher point under Mr. Trump.

Eligibility is based on financial need — the income limit is broadly 130 percent of the federal poverty line — and beneficiaries are also subject to reporting rules and work requirements. During the coronavirus pandemic, emergency legislation temporarily and partly suspended a longstanding work requirement for “able-bodied” adults without dependents. That occurred in March 2020, under the Trump administration, and the suspension ended in 2023. In fact, the Biden administration agreed to add stricter work requirements to SNAP under a deal with Republican lawmakers in 2023.

Some groups of authorized immigrants, such as refugees and children, qualify for SNAP, while adult green card holders typically must wait five years to become eligible; by law, unauthorized immigrants are ineligible. Those general parameters did not change under the Biden administration. The administration did increase access for some groups — veterans, homeless people and young adults transitioning out of the foster care system — as part of that 2023 deal.


The recent discussions on the board about SNAP and ACA tax subsidy extensions have one thing in common. Namely, the false belief on the part of trump devotees that immigrants here are unlawfully receiving both SNAP benefits and ACA plan coverage. No doubt in part due to demonstrable lies like this from a prez who routinely spreads misinformation........“Biden went totally crazy, gave it to anybody that would ask, gave it to people that were able-bodied, had no problem.”
The question is are illegals getting it anyway? How can we know? There are laws against speeding too, but does that mean that no one speeds?
 
right.......they're also ineligible to vote berg...... :rolleyes: ~S~
And they don't vote....

It is a very rare exception if you find that an illegal has voted.

If you believe they register and vote, how many of the million deported were registered voters.

You and trump have the opportunity to prove it with every illegal trump is deporting.....

But NOOOOOO, they won't do that....they have every thing in front of them to check,

BUT if they check and show the facts and truth, illegal's are not voters, Trumpers won't be able to continue to LIE ABOUT IT.....
 
The question is are illegals getting it anyway? How can we know? There are laws against speeding too, but does that mean that no one speeds?
I think its in the terminology.
When dems say illegals aren't getting benefits they are probably right, but the illegals who were given a hearing date, even 10-years out are called "asylees" because they were technically given asylum.
 
The question is are illegals getting it anyway? How can we know? There are laws against speeding too, but does that mean that no one speeds?
Some states like california have their own programs that are not part of snap that illegals can benefit from but they use their same SNAP EBT card system to distribute the funds which has created the illusion that illegals are getting SNAP.
 
The question is are illegals getting it anyway? How can we know? There are laws against speeding too, but does that mean that no one speeds?
Wow, what a great point. How do we know anything for sure? Maybe Pam Bondi is a Russian mole intent on helping Putin weaken our democracy. Maybe Obama wasn't from Kenya, maybe he was from the planet Kolob.

Thank goodness we have deep thinkers like you around. ;)
 
Some states like california have their own programs that are not part of snap that illegals can benefit from but they use their same SNAP EBT card system to distribute the funds which has created the illusion that illegals are getting SNAP.
I'm sure that illegals routinely visit other sources of free food across the nation.
 
Some states like california have their own programs that are not part of snap that illegals can benefit from but they use their same SNAP EBT card system to distribute the funds which has created the illusion that illegals are getting SNAP.
The same issue came up the other day when I tried to explain to some nitwit that while CA may choose to offer health insurance to unauthorized immigrants that doesn't make them eligible for ACA plans.
 
I'm sure that illegals routinely visit other sources of free food across the nation.

They do. I have handed out food to them through charity. I have no problem doing this through charity; the commandments of Jesus say we should. BUT, He never said we should make illegal actions legal, therefore qualifying them for all kinds of benefits they are not owed.
 
What Was Said

“Fifty-nine percent of all illegal aliens are collecting food stamps, meaning that most of the people getting food stamps from the U.S. government and the U.S. taxpayer are not even Americans.”
— Rob Finnerty, Newsmax host, on Oct. 27

False. Nearly 90 percent of SNAP recipients are native-born American citizens and 96 percent were citizens, according to the latest data from the Agriculture Department. Unauthorized immigrants are ineligible for SNAP, and Mr. Finnerty’s claim vastly overstated the number of immigrants participating in the program.

Clips of Mr. Finnerty’s show and its claims have been widely circulated on social media. The false statistic about 59 percent of unauthorized immigrants collecting SNAP benefits has been spread in tens of thousands of posts and viewed millions of times, according to NewsGuard, which tracks online misinformation.

Newsmax did not respond to a request for comment. But Mr. Finnerty appears to be citing and distorting a 2023 analysis from the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that favors lower immigration. The group, which looked at Census Bureau data from 2022, found that 59 percent of households headed by unauthorized immigrants reported using at least one major federal assistance program. That included SNAP, as well as free and reduced-price school lunch, Medicaid and housing assistance, among other programs.
 
And they don't vote....

It is a very rare exception if you find that an illegal has voted.

If you believe they register and vote, how many of the million deported were registered voters.

You and trump have the opportunity to prove it with every illegal trump is deporting.....

But NOOOOOO, they won't do that....they have every thing in front of them to check,

BUT if they check and show the facts and truth, illegal's are not voters, Trumpers won't be able to continue to LIE ABOUT IT.....
The truth is, we dont know. The investigations always look for the illegals who has cast a vote by identity theft or ballot theft. They never consider those who were accidently LEGALLY registered to vote through automatic registration programs. To the system, those look like legal votes cast by a citizen, but they are not, and they fall through the cracks.
 
I think its in the terminology.
When dems say illegals aren't getting benefits they are probably right, but the illegals who were given a hearing date, even 10-years out are called "asylees" because they were technically given asylum.
No that is not true....

They are seeking asylum, they are not asylees but asylum SEEKERS..... You only become an asylees after your court date and the immigration judge makes the determination that you did meet the legal requirements, otherwise they never become asylees, but deported if the judge says they don't.
 
I'm sure that illegals routinely visit other sources of free food across the nation.
Having worked at a food bank in CO I can tell you we never checked for proof of citizenship when handing out food. But we were funded by individual contributions and got food donated to us by local companies and vendors. There was no taxpayer money involved.
 
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They do. I have handed out food to them through charity. I have no problem doing this through charity; the commandments of Jesus say we should. BUT, He never said we should make illegal actions legal, therefore qualifying them for all kinds of benefits they are not owed.
I would pack them a good lunch for their trip back home. 😇
 
If you knew what I know you wouldn't be amused, you'd be mad.
But how do you know what you "know" is the truth? Most likely your sources of info are lying to you.........like trump does.
 
The truth is, we dont know. The investigations always look for the illegals who has cast a vote by identity theft or ballot theft. They never consider those who were accidently LEGALLY registered to vote through automatic registration programs. To the system, those look like legal votes cast by a citizen, but they are not, and they fall through the cracks.
Exactly. Based on the failure of the government to perform even the simplest of tasks it's no wonder there is doubt regarding this subject.

I put on my reading glasses so I could read traffic signs at my last driver's license vision test. When I got my license renewal it states, "Glasses required to drive". :auiqs.jpg:Go figger.
 
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The truth is, we dont know. The investigations always look for the illegals who has cast a vote by identity theft or ballot theft. They never consider those who were accidently LEGALLY registered to vote through automatic registration programs. To the system, those look like legal votes cast by a citizen, but they are not, and they fall through the cracks.
The guys and gals being deported, can be checked to see if they are registered voters....easy as 1 2 3.... authorities have every tool and all information, in their hands, to determine such....

We need to know the TRUTH.
 
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