FAANG (Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix & Google) - Hiring H-1B Visa Holders While Simultaneously Conducting Mass Layoffs

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What is being left out of these conversations is when people are put into these positions and they are unable to do the work, therefore not even meeting the first requirement of being qualified.

In one particular case that I'm aware of, their inability to do the work that their position required had a cascading effect on other workers & departments yet nothing was done about it, and they instead still fast-tracked these individuals to whatever high level position was wanted for them. This behavior of lying, harassment, cheating, dishonesty and theft of intellectual property caused an entire department to quit and/or seek employment elsewhere all because the toxic behavior went unaddressed.

So essentially, at least with this one group, instead of them being qualified for the positions they're put in as required under the H-1B visa rules, they were unable to do the work and were allowed to gain the experience on the job while being paid yet still never achieving the level of competency required by the role.

In 2022 and early 2023, several major tech companies in the Puget Sound area, including Amazon, Microsoft, and Meta, conducted significant layoffs while continuing to hire new H-1B visa workers. An analysis by the Economic Policy Institute (EPI) found that the top 30 H-1B employers hired over 34,000 new H-1B workers in 2022 and laid off at least 85,000 employees during the same period.
EPI
Amazon, for instance, hired 6,400 new H-1B workers in 2022, in addition to nearly 6,200 in 2021. Concurrently, the company announced plans to lay off 27,150 employees, more than twice the number of H-1B workers it hired in 2021 and 2022 combined.
EPI
Similarly, Google and Meta, both leading H-1B employers, together hired over 3,100 new H-1B workers in 2022. During the same period, they laid off approximately 33,000 employees, nearly 11 times the number of new H-1B workers they had hired.
EPI
These actions have sparked criticism, with some arguing that the H-1B program is being exploited to underpay migrant workers and offshore U.S. jobs to countries with lower labor costs. The EPI analysis noted that 13 of the top 30 H-1B employers were outsourcing firms engaging in such practices.
EPI
The situation has also created challenges for H-1B visa holders who were laid off, as they have a 60-day window to find new employment or risk losing their legal status in the U.S. This has led to uncertainty and difficult decisions for many foreign workers and their families.
In response to these developments, there have been calls for reforms to the H-1B program to prevent misuse, protect migrant workers, and ensure it aligns with its original intent of filling genuine labor shortages without negatively impacting U.S. workers' wages and working conditions.
EPI
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A well presented Post .
But why do you and others apparently never ask some of the sensible follow- on questions ?

These companies are run by the most able people and it is inconceivable that they could all suffer by coincidence from following the same basic suicidal business model, and all at the same time. .

So what other explanations could fit the facts?

Could there really be a conspiracy among them?
Should we suggest a controlling strategy imposed on them

I suggest there is a conspiracy which you could lay at the feet of something which, for discussion purposes, you might label as a Shadow Government or even a Deep State .
And if this is reasonable , what motivates this conspiracy and what is the targeted end -position ?

And even , is this all organised Treason if you delve deep enough?
 
There is also certainly a real natuonal.security concern.as.well.
 
A well presented Post .
But why do you and others apparently never ask some of the sensible follow- on questions ?

These companies are run by the most able people and it is inconceivable that they could all suffer by coincidence from following the same basic suicidal business model, and all at the same time. .

So what other explanations could fit the facts?

Could there really be a conspiracy among them?
Should we suggest a controlling strategy imposed on them


I suggest there is a conspiracy which you could lay at the feet of something which, for discussion purposes, you might label as a Shadow Government or even a Deep State .
And if this is reasonable , what motivates this conspiracy and what is the targeted end -position ?

And even , is this all organised Treason if you delve deep enough?
You bring up a good point, but I don't think it has anything to do with conspiracy.

Washington State has a law that stipulates if a company conducts a mass layoff or is going to close a plant, they have to file with the state a WARN notice. Doing so sets in motion a series of events on the state's part to assist the soon to be unemployed with preparing for the job loss and I think the requirement is 60 days before separation.

I get email notices of when a WARN is filed, and I would imagine so do the local news reporters which is why we see on the TV when one of the big tech companies is doing a layoff. The thing is that there is a threshold for how many workers are being laid off that determines if a WARN is triggered.

From what my research revealed, companies could be doing their RIFS on a kind of rolling basis so that they never trigger the WARN.

That's not conspiracy, that simply gaming the system to their advantage.
 
A well presented Post .
But why do you and others apparently never ask some of the sensible follow- on questions ?

These companies are run by the most able people and it is inconceivable that they could all suffer by coincidence from following the same basic suicidal business model, and all at the same time. .

So what other explanations could fit the facts?

Could there really be a conspiracy among them?
Should we suggest a controlling strategy imposed on them


I suggest there is a conspiracy which you could lay at the feet of something which, for discussion purposes, you might label as a Shadow Government or even a Deep State .
And if this is reasonable , what motivates this conspiracy and what is the targeted end -position ?

And even , is this all organised Treason if you delve deep enough?
Oh, and one other thing. One other BIG thing.

No one wants to complain about this system because they don't want to be accused of being a racist. The individuals from India where I work identify as Asian or Asian Indian and therefore they are protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. And I have read that there are some H-1B visa holders from India who used there protected status to violate the rights of their fellow non-Indian workers.

It's a mess, and out of the last 25 years of working with mixed teams and Indian teams, this has only happened once, but when it did happen, it was very treacherous what they did.

And no one cared, once again.
 
A well presented Post .
But why do you and others apparently never ask some of the sensible follow- on questions ?

These companies are run by the most able people and it is inconceivable that they could all suffer by coincidence from following the same basic suicidal business model, and all at the same time. .

So what other explanations could fit the facts?

Could there really be a conspiracy among them?
Should we suggest a controlling strategy imposed on them


I suggest there is a conspiracy which you could lay at the feet of something which, for discussion purposes, you might label as a Shadow Government or even a Deep State .
Treason Is Not a Corporate Privilege
 
What is being left out of these conversations is when people are put into these positions and they are unable to do the work, therefore not even meeting the first requirement of being qualified.

In one particular case that I'm aware of, their inability to do the work that their position required had a cascading effect on other workers & departments yet nothing was done about it, and they instead still fast-tracked these individuals to whatever high level position was wanted for them. This behavior of lying, harassment, cheating, dishonesty and theft of intellectual property caused an entire department to quit and/or seek employment elsewhere all because the toxic behavior went unaddressed.

So essentially, at least with this one group, instead of them being qualified for the positions they're put in as required under the H-1B visa rules, they were unable to do the work and were allowed to gain the experience on the job while being paid yet still never achieving the level of competency required by the role.

In 2022 and early 2023, several major tech companies in the Puget Sound area, including Amazon, Microsoft, and Meta, conducted significant layoffs while continuing to hire new H-1B visa workers. An analysis by the Economic Policy Institute (EPI) found that the top 30 H-1B employers hired over 34,000 new H-1B workers in 2022 and laid off at least 85,000 employees during the same period.
EPI
Amazon, for instance, hired 6,400 new H-1B workers in 2022, in addition to nearly 6,200 in 2021. Concurrently, the company announced plans to lay off 27,150 employees, more than twice the number of H-1B workers it hired in 2021 and 2022 combined.
EPI
Similarly, Google and Meta, both leading H-1B employers, together hired over 3,100 new H-1B workers in 2022. During the same period, they laid off approximately 33,000 employees, nearly 11 times the number of new H-1B workers they had hired.
EPI
These actions have sparked criticism, with some arguing that the H-1B program is being exploited to underpay migrant workers and offshore U.S. jobs to countries with lower labor costs. The EPI analysis noted that 13 of the top 30 H-1B employers were outsourcing firms engaging in such practices.
EPI
The situation has also created challenges for H-1B visa holders who were laid off, as they have a 60-day window to find new employment or risk losing their legal status in the U.S. This has led to uncertainty and difficult decisions for many foreign workers and their families.
In response to these developments, there have been calls for reforms to the H-1B program to prevent misuse, protect migrant workers, and ensure it aligns with its original intent of filling genuine labor shortages without negatively impacting U.S. workers' wages and working conditions.
EPI
Recent Developments in Tech Layoffs and Immigration Policies
Here's how Trump can still defuse the 'MAGA civil war' over immigration's how Trump can still defuse the 'MAGA civil war' over immigration
Amazon Wants to Hire More Immigrants. Then Came Trump.
Meta layoffs are the latest sign that constant job cuts are the new Big Tech normal
Sources​
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This is a good find and a good article.
Yeah this is something that needs to be addressed.
 
A well presented Post .
But why do you and others apparently never ask some of the sensible follow- on questions ?

These companies are run by the most able people and it is inconceivable that they could all suffer by coincidence from following the same basic suicidal business model, and all at the same time. .

So what other explanations could fit the facts?

Could there really be a conspiracy among them?
Should we suggest a controlling strategy imposed on them


I suggest there is a conspiracy which you could lay at the feet of something which, for discussion purposes, you might label as a Shadow Government or even a Deep State .
And if this is reasonable , what motivates this conspiracy and what is the targeted end -position ?

And even , is this all organised Treason if you delve deep enough?
No conspiracy is required when interests intersect.
 
You bring up a good point, but I don't think it has anything to do with conspiracy.

That is exactly where we totally disagree .

Time after time the Sheeple Herd ignores Critical analysis and thought .
They produce your type of conclusion -- and I quote :-

That's not conspiracy, that's simply gaming the system to their advantage.


And that is precisely how you run an effective Conspiracy .
By letting Gullible people be Gullible .

That is , you believe / accept the opposition-- who only lie and are cheats and deceitful -- because presumably you believe that this special time God will change the leopard's spots .

Very touching, but a near certain way of losing.
imho.
 
No conspiracy is required when interests intersect.
The point is they're breaking the law.

And abusing the system.

And no one's stopping them.

H1B is legally capped at 65,000.

But Amazon alone has 13,000 H1B workers. Cognizant is a close second with almost that many. Ernst Young the accounting firm has 11,000. Google has almost 10,000. So the top four account for about 3/4 of the cap.

If you go to the next 3 which is Tata, Microsoft, and Infosys you're already over the cap. Then you have Apple and Facebook which is another 8000, and so on ad nauseum.
 
What is being left out of these conversations is when people are put into these positions and they are unable to do the work, therefore not even meeting the first requirement of being qualified.

In one particular case that I'm aware of, their inability to do the work that their position required had a cascading effect on other workers & departments yet nothing was done about it, and they instead still fast-tracked these individuals to whatever high level position was wanted for them. This behavior of lying, harassment, cheating, dishonesty and theft of intellectual property caused an entire department to quit and/or seek employment elsewhere all because the toxic behavior went unaddressed.

So essentially, at least with this one group, instead of them being qualified for the positions they're put in as required under the H-1B visa rules, they were unable to do the work and were allowed to gain the experience on the job while being paid yet still never achieving the level of competency required by the role.

In 2022 and early 2023, several major tech companies in the Puget Sound area, including Amazon, Microsoft, and Meta, conducted significant layoffs while continuing to hire new H-1B visa workers. An analysis by the Economic Policy Institute (EPI) found that the top 30 H-1B employers hired over 34,000 new H-1B workers in 2022 and laid off at least 85,000 employees during the same period.
EPI
Amazon, for instance, hired 6,400 new H-1B workers in 2022, in addition to nearly 6,200 in 2021. Concurrently, the company announced plans to lay off 27,150 employees, more than twice the number of H-1B workers it hired in 2021 and 2022 combined.
EPI
Similarly, Google and Meta, both leading H-1B employers, together hired over 3,100 new H-1B workers in 2022. During the same period, they laid off approximately 33,000 employees, nearly 11 times the number of new H-1B workers they had hired.
EPI
These actions have sparked criticism, with some arguing that the H-1B program is being exploited to underpay migrant workers and offshore U.S. jobs to countries with lower labor costs. The EPI analysis noted that 13 of the top 30 H-1B employers were outsourcing firms engaging in such practices.
EPI
The situation has also created challenges for H-1B visa holders who were laid off, as they have a 60-day window to find new employment or risk losing their legal status in the U.S. This has led to uncertainty and difficult decisions for many foreign workers and their families.
In response to these developments, there have been calls for reforms to the H-1B program to prevent misuse, protect migrant workers, and ensure it aligns with its original intent of filling genuine labor shortages without negatively impacting U.S. workers' wages and working conditions.
EPI
Recent Developments in Tech Layoffs and Immigration Policies
Here's how Trump can still defuse the 'MAGA civil war' over immigration's how Trump can still defuse the 'MAGA civil war' over immigration
Amazon Wants to Hire More Immigrants. Then Came Trump.
Meta layoffs are the latest sign that constant job cuts are the new Big Tech normal
Sources​
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Its about profit.Look at the anti union stances of these bandits. Paying the lowest possible wages is the holy grail for them.Now trumpy is falling in line with them. Its so predictable. Where will maga morons turn next ?
 
The employees being laid off are all specifically being replaced by H1B Visa holders at a lower price?
 
It's little more than an attempt to deflect based upon minutia.
I am asking.

Your answer is you disagree.

You are kind of an odd duck, huh?

How is your Murray Rothbard reading going? I know you do not want to be a fake anarchist the rest of your life.

Which of his tenets of anarchism do you most agree with?
 
Pk,

You crack me up.

All you are is a run of the mill left wing commie cult fuck.

You fake libertarians and anarchists are so easily identified with one or 2 questions.

You think it makes you appear to be neutral and unbiased. You are neither.

A lefty parading as a libertarian or anarchist is actually way worse than an admitted cult fuck.
 
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