F35 - superfighter or lame duck?

[Daryl Hunt]

Yeah AIM-120 internal has been around since 3b, was one of the original three weapons along with GBU-12 JDAM and GBU-32 Paveway.

3F lets F-35A deploy SDB, and F-35C deploy JSOW, and other weapons like external carriage and AIM-9X.

I think SDB2 comes in block 4, along with the intl partner weapons from UK, Turkey, etc.

I believe block 4 has already been installed on my of them already. funny, the way they have done the blocks. They have already dropped the SBDs on the training range.

 

[Bleipriester]

Israel, the only country to receive their F-35 for free and the only country allowed to modify the F-35, readies its own F-35 variant for the purpose of prolonging the war in Syria.


Israel prepares to release new aircraft to combat Hezbollah

 

[DrainBamage]

Israel, the only country to receive their F-35 for free and the only country allowed to modify the F-35, readies its own F-35 variant for the purpose of prolonging the war in Syria.

Israel prepares to release new aircraft to combat Hezbollah

Great tool for the job, especially since Syria relies on Russian junk.

 

[Bleipriester]

Israel, the only country to receive their F-35 for free and the only country allowed to modify the F-35, readies its own F-35 variant for the purpose of prolonging the war in Syria.

Israel prepares to release new aircraft to combat Hezbollah

Great tool for the job, especially since Syria relies on Russian junk.

Lost its first battle against a Syrian S-200 "junk" missile.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Israel, the only country to receive their F-35 for free and the only country allowed to modify the F-35, readies its own F-35 variant for the purpose of prolonging the war in Syria.


Israel prepares to release new aircraft to combat Hezbollah

You are partially correct. The US give Israel 3.15B each year. That's about 30 F-35s, give or take. The problem has been, Israel has been a limiting factor in the Mid East for years. Right now, there are only 2 countries that want to wipe Israel from the face of the earth and that is Iran and Syria. It used to almost all of them. But the others have figured out that Israel is much less of a threat to them than Iran and Syria poses. Israel has been getting by with our and others contributions since they really haven't had much of natural resources. But recently, there was a huge discovery of oil fields making Israel a rich country.

All countries that receive the F-35 have to do some "Rolling Yer Own" for mods on the F-35. You honestly believe that the US is going to send and export F-35 with all the bells and whistles? It doesn't work that way. Israel just happens to be one of the few countries that have the capability to do a decent roll yer own job.

Right now, both Iran and Syria are supporting Hamas and Hezbolla who are just a bit busy right now. Otherwise, they would be attacking Israel like they always do. The scary part of all this is, with the military support both have received, the next time they attack they will be better equipped. Israel will have to fire it up on all cylinders. And you can pretty well kiss Hamas and Hezbella's ass goodbye at that point. Sooner or later, Israel will have to invade Syria just to prevent the support of these two terrorist groups.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Israel, the only country to receive their F-35 for free and the only country allowed to modify the F-35, readies its own F-35 variant for the purpose of prolonging the war in Syria.

Israel prepares to release new aircraft to combat Hezbollah

Great tool for the job, especially since Syria relies on Russian junk.

Lost its first battle against a Syrian S-200 "junk" missile.

First of all, the S-200 never has been junk. Second, the trash that comes out of Syria is probably untrue. It's put out by them so that fools with hatred for Jews. I can see where your support for out US White Supremacy groups would lie.

 

[Bleipriester]

Israel, the only country to receive their F-35 for free and the only country allowed to modify the F-35, readies its own F-35 variant for the purpose of prolonging the war in Syria.


Israel prepares to release new aircraft to combat Hezbollah

You are partially correct. The US give Israel 3.15B each year. That's about 30 F-35s, give or take. The problem has been, Israel has been a limiting factor in the Mid East for years. Right now, there are only 2 countries that want to wipe Israel from the face of the earth and that is Iran and Syria. It used to almost all of them. But the others have figured out that Israel is much less of a threat to them than Iran and Syria poses. Israel has been getting by with our and others contributions since they really haven't had much of natural resources. But recently, there was a huge discovery of oil fields making Israel a rich country.

All countries that receive the F-35 have to do some "Rolling Yer Own" for mods on the F-35. You honestly believe that the US is going to send and export F-35 with all the bells and whistles? It doesn't work that way. Israel just happens to be one of the few countries that have the capability to do a decent roll yer own job.

Right now, both Iran and Syria are supporting Hamas and Hezbolla who are just a bit busy right now. Otherwise, they would be attacking Israel like they always do. The scary part of all this is, with the military support both have received, the next time they attack they will be better equipped. Israel will have to fire it up on all cylinders. And you can pretty well kiss Hamas and Hezbella's ass goodbye at that point. Sooner or later, Israel will have to invade Syria just to prevent the support of these two terrorist groups.

38 billion go to Israel in 10 years, mainly in form of F-35. Your tax money. Of course, the aggressors are always the others. Truly peaceful Zionist regime never started a war. However, the Syrian war is a good example, why airstrikes are ineffective against an guerrilla enemy. You can have even the best aircraft and you still need capable ground troops. After 6 years of fighting heavily supported terrorist armies, the Syrian army and Hezbollah are certainly the most capable forces in the ME. Any attempt by Israel to go for SAA and Hezbollah will result in failures. Israel should now end the occupation of Syrian and Lebanese soil.

Here is how Israel tries to wipe Syria off the face of the earth:

"He then proceeds to analyze the weaknesses of Arab countries, by citing what he perceives to be flaws in their national and social structures, concluding that Israel should aim to bring about the fragmentation of the Arab world into a mosaic of ethnic and confessional groupings. 'Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation,' he argued, would prove to be advantageous to Israel in the short term. He saw contemporary events in Lebanon as a foreshadowing of future developments overall throughout the Arab world. The upheavals would create a precedent for guiding Israeli short-term and long-term strategies. Specifically, he asserted that the immediate aim of policy should be the dissolution of the military capabilities of Arab states east of Israel, while the primary long-term goal should work towards the formation of unique areas defined in terms of ethnonational and religious identities."

Yinon Plan - Wikipedia

"Israel has since the onset of the war on Syria in 2011 used both the occupied Golan and the Sheeba Farms area to provide logistical, tactical and direct military support for the Muslim Brotherhood linked Free Syrian Army as well as Jabhat al-Nusrah and other Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist / mercenary brigades.

In October 2013 the Israeli occupied Golan and Sheeba Farms were used to infiltrate some 40,000 Jabhat al-Nusrah and Liwa-al-Islam fighters / mercenaries into Lebanon and the opening of a new, major battlefront in the Qalamoun region at the Lebanese – Syrian border."

Hezbollah & Israel clash over Israeli occupied Sheeba Farms

 

[Bleipriester]

Israel, the only country to receive their F-35 for free and the only country allowed to modify the F-35, readies its own F-35 variant for the purpose of prolonging the war in Syria.

Israel prepares to release new aircraft to combat Hezbollah

Great tool for the job, especially since Syria relies on Russian junk.

Lost its first battle against a Syrian S-200 "junk" missile.

First of all, the S-200 never has been junk. Second, the trash that comes out of Syria is probably untrue. It's put out by them so that fools with hatred for Jews. I can see where your support for out US White Supremacy groups would lie.

We have already discussed that and concluded that a bird strike is not likely.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Israel, the only country to receive their F-35 for free and the only country allowed to modify the F-35, readies its own F-35 variant for the purpose of prolonging the war in Syria.


Israel prepares to release new aircraft to combat Hezbollah

You are partially correct. The US give Israel 3.15B each year. That's about 30 F-35s, give or take. The problem has been, Israel has been a limiting factor in the Mid East for years. Right now, there are only 2 countries that want to wipe Israel from the face of the earth and that is Iran and Syria. It used to almost all of them. But the others have figured out that Israel is much less of a threat to them than Iran and Syria poses. Israel has been getting by with our and others contributions since they really haven't had much of natural resources. But recently, there was a huge discovery of oil fields making Israel a rich country.

All countries that receive the F-35 have to do some "Rolling Yer Own" for mods on the F-35. You honestly believe that the US is going to send and export F-35 with all the bells and whistles? It doesn't work that way. Israel just happens to be one of the few countries that have the capability to do a decent roll yer own job.

Right now, both Iran and Syria are supporting Hamas and Hezbolla who are just a bit busy right now. Otherwise, they would be attacking Israel like they always do. The scary part of all this is, with the military support both have received, the next time they attack they will be better equipped. Israel will have to fire it up on all cylinders. And you can pretty well kiss Hamas and Hezbella's ass goodbye at that point. Sooner or later, Israel will have to invade Syria just to prevent the support of these two terrorist groups.

38 billion go to Israel in 10 years, mainly in form of F-35. Your tax money. Of course, the aggressors are always the others. Truly peaceful Zionist regime never started a war. However, the Syrian war is a good example, why airstrikes are ineffective against an guerrilla enemy. You can have even the best aircraft and you still need capable ground troops. After 6 years of fighting heavily supported terrorist armies, the Syrian army and Hezbollah are certainly the most capable forces in the ME. Any attempt by Israel to go for SAA and Hezbollah will result in failures. Israel should now end the occupation of Syrian and Lebanese soil.

Here is how Israel tries to wipe Syria off the face of the earth:

"He then proceeds to analyze the weaknesses of Arab countries, by citing what he perceives to be flaws in their national and social structures, concluding that Israel should aim to bring about the fragmentation of the Arab world into a mosaic of ethnic and confessional groupings. 'Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation,' he argued, would prove to be advantageous to Israel in the short term. He saw contemporary events in Lebanon as a foreshadowing of future developments overall throughout the Arab world. The upheavals would create a precedent for guiding Israeli short-term and long-term strategies. Specifically, he asserted that the immediate aim of policy should be the dissolution of the military capabilities of Arab states east of Israel, while the primary long-term goal should work towards the formation of unique areas defined in terms of ethnonational and religious identities."

Yinon Plan - Wikipedia

"Israel has since the onset of the war on Syria in 2011 used both the occupied Golan and the Sheeba Farms area to provide logistical, tactical and direct military support for the Muslim Brotherhood linked Free Syrian Army as well as Jabhat al-Nusrah and other Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist / mercenary brigades.

In October 2013 the Israeli occupied Golan and Sheeba Farms were used to infiltrate some 40,000 Jabhat al-Nusrah and Liwa-al-Islam fighters / mercenaries into Lebanon and the opening of a new, major battlefront in the Qalamoun region at the Lebanese – Syrian border."

Hezbollah & Israel clash over Israeli occupied Sheeba Farms

I can identify BS when I see it. Propaganda works best when you start out with a lie and sprinkle just enough truth in it to fool the weak minded. This discussion is over.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Israel, the only country to receive their F-35 for free and the only country allowed to modify the F-35, readies its own F-35 variant for the purpose of prolonging the war in Syria.

Israel prepares to release new aircraft to combat Hezbollah

Great tool for the job, especially since Syria relies on Russian junk.

Lost its first battle against a Syrian S-200 "junk" missile.

First of all, the S-200 never has been junk. Second, the trash that comes out of Syria is probably untrue. It's put out by them so that fools with hatred for Jews. I can see where your support for out US White Supremacy groups would lie.

We have already discussed that and concluded that a bird strike is not likely.

What the general consensus was that we don't know. And frankly, I don't care. The US pilots wouldn't have made the mistakes for even a S-500 to be able to hit a F-35. During Red Flag, they made that mistake ONCE. And then for the next hundred or so flights, didn't make it again. If Israel needs a refresher course, I imagine that a US conus based training class can be provided.

 

[DrainBamage]

Lost its first battle against a Syrian S-200 "junk" missile.

Of course they didn't, you just keep chanting this because you're a gullible fool who laps up every conspiracy theory that comes down the pipe.

You're the same retard who swallowed hook line and sinker Iran's toy airplane hoax.

 

[DrainBamage]

We have already discussed that and concluded that a bird strike is not likely.

You concluding it was so is the best evidence there is that it isn't so, since almost everything you post turns out to be factually incorrect.

You're saying an F-35 got shot down, and your evidence is some author's theories from some silly propaganda newspaper. It's perfect for the uneducated masses that are it's target demographic, like you.

 

[Bleipriester]

Israel, the only country to receive their F-35 for free and the only country allowed to modify the F-35, readies its own F-35 variant for the purpose of prolonging the war in Syria.

Israel prepares to release new aircraft to combat Hezbollah

Great tool for the job, especially since Syria relies on Russian junk.

Lost its first battle against a Syrian S-200 "junk" missile.

First of all, the S-200 never has been junk. Second, the trash that comes out of Syria is probably untrue. It's put out by them so that fools with hatred for Jews. I can see where your support for out US White Supremacy groups would lie.

We have already discussed that and concluded that a bird strike is not likely.

What the general consensus was that we don't know. And frankly, I don't care. The US pilots wouldn't have made the mistakes for even a S-500 to be able to hit a F-35. During Red Flag, they made that mistake ONCE. And then for the next hundred or so flights, didn't make it again. If Israel needs a refresher course, I imagine that a US conus based training class can be provided.

Since you call any source propaganda that doesn´t match your view, the discussion is over for now.

 

[Bleipriester]

We have already discussed that and concluded that a bird strike is not likely.

You concluding it was so is the best evidence there is that it isn't so, since almost everything you post turns out to be factually incorrect.

You're saying an F-35 got shot down, and your evidence is some author's theories from some silly propaganda newspaper. It's perfect for the uneducated masses that are it's target demographic, like you.

No, I didn´t say a F-35 was shot down. It was hit nevertheless. You know, missiles do not necessarily directly hit the target.

 

[DrainBamage]

Since you call any source propaganda that doesn´t match your view, the discussion is over for now.

Well your first link was to a facebook page of The Syrian Arab Army. Do you know what journalism is? I don't think you do. Your second link was to DonBass news agency, which links to Southfront a known Russian propaganda site.

No, I didn´t say a F-35 was shot down. It was hit nevertheless.

Your proof being conspiracy theories on the internet that have become a big echo chamber of link backs.

You're really gullible.

 

[Bleipriester]

Since you call any source propaganda that doesn´t match your view, the discussion is over for now.

Well your first link was to a facebook page of The Syrian Arab Army. Do you know what journalism is? I don't think you do. Your second link was to DonBass news agency, which links to Southfront a known Russian propaganda site.

No, I didn´t say a F-35 was shot down. It was hit nevertheless.

Your proof being conspiracy theories on the internet that have become a big echo chamber of link backs.

You're really gullible.

The sources in question are:

1. Wikipedia

2. Regular media outlet

 

[DrainBamage]

You link goes to the Syrian Army Facebook page, and what you call is "regular media outlet" is always in question, since you're the moron who fell for the fake Iran stealth plane thing. How few brain cells did that take?

 

[Bleipriester]

You link goes to the Syrian Army Facebook page, and what you call is "regular media outlet" is always in question, since you're the moron who fell for the fake Iran stealth plane thing. How few brain cells did that take?

Yinon Plan - Wikipedia
Hezbollah & Israel clash over Israeli occupied Sheeba Farms

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You link goes to the Syrian Army Facebook page, and what you call is "regular media outlet" is always in question, since you're the moron who fell for the fake Iran stealth plane thing. How few brain cells did that take?

Yinon Plan - Wikipedia
Hezbollah & Israel clash over Israeli occupied Sheeba Farms

Easy answer on both of these.

The Yinon Plan wasn't really a plan. It was one persons view on what was once a prediction that never came to be. Since then, Egypt, Saudi Arabian and many other recognize Israel as a Country and right to exist. The only two countries that don't are Iran and Syria and they are enemies of the entire Middle East and Northern Africa countries. Iran's days are numbered. The second they develop even ONE Nuclear Weapon, the war begins with Israel and Saudi bringing it to them. Others may join in overthrowing Iran. This may happen within the next 5 years unless Iran cleans it's act up. Syria only exist because the Russians demand it. Even Russia is finding it very draining on their meager resources. Sooner or later, Syria will fall as well.

Now for the Clash. Hezbolla are Lebonese. They have no claim to the Sheeba Farms. Palistinians may have but not anyone from Lebanon. Once the Syrians are brought into the fold, the Palastinains will finally recognize Israels right to exist. And they just might get their nation. Until then, don't expect Israel to agree to that since it means that their still going to have the threat of Terrorism in their face. Hamas days are also numbered. At some point, Egypt is going to have enough of it and go with Israel to just get rid of them. Putting up with those criminally insane Hamas should not be tolerated. Hell, even Palistinians can't get along with them hence the way the terroritories are laid out.

When Iran and Syria finally learn to play well with others things will be completely different and a redrawing of the map might happen to a more sane map. The Brits screwed the pooch in 1948.

 

[Bleipriester]

The Yinon Plan wasn't really a plan. It was one persons view on what was once a prediction that never came to be. Since then, Egypt, Saudi Arabian and many other recognize Israel as a Country and right to exist. The only two countries that don't are Iran and Syria and they are enemies of the entire Middle East and Northern Africa countries. Iran's days are numbered. The second they develop even ONE Nuclear Weapon, the war begins with Israel and Saudi bringing it to them. Others may join in overthrowing Iran. This may happen within the next 5 years unless Iran cleans it's act up. Syria only exist because the Russians demand it. Even Russia is finding it very draining on their meager resources. Sooner or later, Syria will fall as well.

So why is just this happening in Syria and Iraq?
Iran today is a strong military power. They don´t fear Saudi Arabia and Israel who get ass-kicked by Houthis respectively Hezbollah. Many Saudi bases were already destroyed by Yemeni missiles. Combat strength of Saudi and Israeli troops is low. Iranian troops are deployed next to the occupied Golan Heights.

Now for the Clash. Hezbolla are Lebonese. They have no claim to the Sheeba Farms. Palistinians may have but not anyone from Lebanon. Once the Syrians are brought into the fold, the Palastinains will finally recognize Israels right to exist. And they just might get their nation. Until then, don't expect Israel to agree to that since it means that their still going to have the threat of Terrorism in their face. Hamas days are also numbered. At some point, Egypt is going to have enough of it and go with Israel to just get rid of them. Putting up with those criminally insane Hamas should not be tolerated. Hell, even Palistinians can't get along with them hence the way the terroritories are laid out.

I posted the article because it shows how the Israeli regime fights Syria: With al-Qaeda.

When Iran and Syria finally learn to play well with others things will be completely different and a redrawing of the map might happen to a more sane map. The Brits screwed the pooch in 1948.

There will be an axis reaching from Tehran to Beirut.