You are thinking outside of the box and not looking at what has already gone on INSIDE of the box.
You may not yet fully appreciate Islam and it's goals and methods.
I sure hope I'm thinking outside of the box and I'm doing this because I know very well what is inside that box. because I've lived in the region and worked in more than half a dozen MENA societies. The phrase "know your enemy" is something I appreciate.
The introduction of greater numbers of Muslims in non-Muslim cultures is not a winning strategy.
Go read my post again. Focus on my point about Containment. Look up on Wikipedia how containment was used during the Cold War. I specifically stated that Muslim immigration to the West stops. We fight Islam here in the West, not over there in the heart of Islam.
Bush was an idiot with his strategy of "We fight them there so we don't have to fight them here", while simultaneously permitting immigration from there to here, thus pissing off Muslims who see us fighting other Muslims over there."
We fight them here so we DON'T have to fight them over there. If we fight them over there, we're in for a centuries long battle and that battle WILL spill over to us over here.
Those newly occupied Muslim lands STAY Muslim and push out non-Muslims.
They're almost entirely Muslim now. The Christians et al. who live amongst those Muslims ALWAYS have and always will have a sword having over their head. Better to come to terms with moving and be done with it.
Your answer to the vow of Muslims to conquer the World for Allah and make all subservient to Him is to 'let them do it and then we'll have them exactly where we want them.' is absolutely insane.
Crazy.
Suicidal.
Treasonous.
Have you ever heard the phrase "Give them enough rope to hang themselves with?" I know, all too well, about Islamic social dysfunction. Right now Western intervention and integration with Western society is taking the blame for their backwardness. Back in 1950, before the Korean War, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Syria, etc were richer nations than South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Thailand, and in all these decades they've stagnated while other nations have improved their lot. The blame for this is internal to those societies - it's Islam which is holding them back but these people instead blame a conspiracy of the West to hold down glorious Islam. When we war on them we further strengthen this viewpoint and we unite them.
They need the rope to hang themselves and we're not giving it to them. They believe that an Islamic society uncorrupted by the West will set them free. We know it will drive them further into the Dark Ages. Let them drive themselves deeper into the Dark Ages and that will open enough eyes within those societies to foster a religious revolution within Islam. That's what they need - they need to overthrow the barbarity which is their religion. All those moderate Muslims are nothing of the sort because they believe in Islam and Islam is still stuck in the 7th Century. There is no moderate way to explain why it's desirable to murder an apostate who leaves the faith.
Look what they are doing in Egypt. Iraq. In every Middle Eastern nation!
Yeah so? I predicted this outcome years ago, in the first inkling of the Arab Spring and in fact my viewpoint on these revolutions is simply a derivative of what I predicted when we began the invasion of Iraq.
There's nothing we can do to turn these societies into Paris on the Nile. At their stage of development they're not ready for Western Democracy. They're always going to want to go their own way, always, and we can never prevent it. Think of it like this - if you daughter is hellbent on losing her virginity, there's nothing you as a Dad can do to stop her.
With less than a combat equipped US Infantry Division and a few million dollars, ISIS is re-taking the M.E. that we spent billions of dollars and thousands of lives to gain. they are overturning governments. They are re-drawing the M.E. maps. They are killing thousands upon thousands and re-writing the Constitutions of various Arab countries to reflect a win for Islamists and jihadists or a battle that will sway the outcome in their favors.
As for the lives we've lost and the trillion dollars we've spent, well, have you ever heard of the sunk cost fallacy? Don't throw good money after bad in order to salvage a losing proposition. The American effort to transform the ME into Western Democracies will not succeed. Back to the daughter example - the wild slut of a daughter has to come to her own realization that she's on the wrong path. You constantly trying to control her sex life, even into her 20s and 30s, will never succeed in turning her into a good wife for a good man.
With these headlines blazing across Newspaper banners and on TV screens the World over, how can you witness these wholesale changes in nations' fortunes and governmental and religious directions and still not recognize the enormity of the forces at work against the freedom you would so casually disregard?
The freedom at stake isn't mine, it's not for me to defend, it's for the people in the region to resolve for themselves. It's their fight. Too many of them want a society free of Western influence. They dream of Islamic societies climbing to great heights of success on an antiquated model. The only way to crush that dream is to let them live it and fail at it.
