explosion at Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, UK

[Mindful]

If people who want to understand why these attacks keep happening in Europe, ISIS's on-line magazine explains it.

It reiterates Andrew Neil's remarks during his Jeremy Corbyn interview yesterday.

 

[Marion Morrison]

If people who want to understand why these attacks keep happening in Europe, ISIS's on-line magazine explains it.

It reiterates Andrew Neil's remarks during his Jeremy Corbyn interview yesterday.

Let's see the Muslim apologists spin that.

 

[Virginia Mom]

All they need is a hug, right?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Ramadan.html
I can't get that little 8 yr. old girl's face out of my mind. Some posters here seem to be more upset at the reporter getting body slammed, than these young people getting blown up. There was a lot of broad brushing against Republicans there, so some of you need to get off your high horses.

 

[gtopa1]

If people who want to understand why these attacks keep happening in Europe, ISIS's on-line magazine explains it.

It reiterates Andrew Neil's remarks during his Jeremy Corbyn interview yesterday.

Let's see the Muslim apologists spin that.

That will indeed be interesting. I would suggest though that Isis speaks for themselves. How many other Moslems? I have no idea.

Greg

 

[Mindful]

If people who want to understand why these attacks keep happening in Europe, ISIS's on-line magazine explains it.

It reiterates Andrew Neil's remarks during his Jeremy Corbyn interview yesterday.

Let's see the Muslim apologists spin that.

That will indeed be interesting. I would suggest though that Isis speaks for themselves. How many other Moslems? I have no idea.

Greg

They were making bombs in Manchester apartments. Under our noses.

 

[Marion Morrison]

If people who want to understand why these attacks keep happening in Europe, ISIS's on-line magazine explains it.

It reiterates Andrew Neil's remarks during his Jeremy Corbyn interview yesterday.

Let's see the Muslim apologists spin that.

That will indeed be interesting. I would suggest though that Isis speaks for themselves. How many other Moslems? I have no idea.

Greg

ISIS are the most devout Muslims.

 

[gtopa1]

All they need is a hug, right?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Ramadan.html
I can't get that little 8 yr. old girl's face out of my mind. Some posters here seem to be more upset at the reporter getting body slammed, than these young people getting blown up. There was a lot of broad brushing against Republicans there, so some of you need to get off your high horses.

True that. And there are tens of thousands just like her murdered in Syria by Assad and Isis. Murdered by those Obama "Passed" on.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

If people who want to understand why these attacks keep happening in Europe, ISIS's on-line magazine explains it.

It reiterates Andrew Neil's remarks during his Jeremy Corbyn interview yesterday.

Let's see the Muslim apologists spin that.

That will indeed be interesting. I would suggest though that Isis speaks for themselves. How many other Moslems? I have no idea.

Greg

ISIS are the most devout Muslims.

Most twisted definitely. Devout? I really can't say. Many seem to be just disgusting fanatics.

Greg

 

[Marion Morrison]

All they need is a hug, right?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Ramadan.html
I can't get that little 8 yr. old girl's face out of my mind. Some posters here seem to be more upset at the reporter getting body slammed, than these young people getting blown up. There was a lot of broad brushing against Republicans there, so some of you need to get off your high horses.

True that. And there are tens of thousands just like her murdered in Syria by Assad and Isis. Murdered by those Obama "Passed" on.

Greg

There you go with Assad again. I think the US should support Assad, I've been following that for a couple years now.

The SA does not leave IEDs laying around villages, they clear them so the villagers can return.

Did you see all the Syrian citizens celebrating when SA regained control of Aleppo?

 

[gtopa1]

All they need is a hug, right?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Ramadan.html
I can't get that little 8 yr. old girl's face out of my mind. Some posters here seem to be more upset at the reporter getting body slammed, than these young people getting blown up. There was a lot of broad brushing against Republicans there, so some of you need to get off your high horses.

True that. And there are tens of thousands just like her murdered in Syria by Assad and Isis. Murdered by those Obama "Passed" on.

Greg

There you go with Assad again. I think the US should support Assad, I've been following that for a couple years now.

The SA does not leave IEDs laying around villages, they clear them so the villagers can return.

Did you see all the Syrian citizens celebrating when SA regained control of Aleppo?

I know several good posters who would agree with you. Who was attacking the population in the first place?

Alas it is my bedtime. I would like nothing better than to continue this tomorrow. Thank you for your views.

Greg

 

[beagle9]

They are taught from a very young age that lying to infidels is permitted and encouraged and we are all heathens. So the smiles, the kindnesses, the politeness...is nothing but a damn lie in my opinion. Does it make me feel guilty feeling that way? Yes. But I'd rather feel guilty than be dead.

. Not only those you speak of here are culturally taught anti this and anti that, but there is a problem of such a thing going on with other groups here as well. This idea of a huge melting pot has run off the rails because there is no expectations of an obedience to morals, standards in which most would or could agree upon, and no loyalty to a country that is being undermined from the top down, and from the bottom up. There is this thinking that technology, snooping, violations of privacy will keep it all under control, but that is a pipe dream in which leads to more control and less freedom for all. Trump's make America great again is based on what so many remember about their childhoods when peace and security was just a common thing, and not something people had to worry about every single day. The infiltration of the anti-American anti-assimilation mindsets has blossomed over the years, and because of political correctness, the fear to offend when offending ones anti-American ways is appropriate, has left this nation and it's people highly vulnerable to exactly what we are seeing right now. The cultural shift from freedom to fear is the anti-American dream come true, otherwise for those who have been offended by this nations foundings, it's modernization, it's values, it's morals, it's cultures, it's laws, and it's peace found within it all. We are on the edge of transforming into something not many will like or recognize in the end, but the stage has been set, and the last gasp of freedom along with this nations long running peace is coming to a screeching halt. The attacks on Trump are evidence of the transformation pushing back against any derailment that may have occurred to the agenda's of groups hell bent on reinventing this nation without many of the old traditions or standards left intact, and corporations are in bed with it all, because for their agenda to move forward as well, many things has to change for them also. The character of this nation is under attack by a multi-layered, multi-pronged strategy. Will be interesting to see where it goes next, but as with a weather person who can read the signs of the coming storms, so shall the signs of the times be read also.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Sigh. Sarcasm is not a valid argument. Are you so obtuse that you can't see some of the same behavior and tactics being used by the Jihadists as the Conquistadors?

I can't alleviate your ignorance of history so I won't even try. Good night.

You're spanking AROUND the problem. It is not deeply rooted in History and more than a car accident was caused by the invention of the petrol engine. It is about Syria, Assad, and extremists filling the vacuum. THAT is the immediate cause. Oh; and a Useful Idiot to a shit cause.

Thank you for not bothering; it would have been embarrassing for you.

Greg

Lol, what's embarrassing is your attempt to talk yourself and your argument up. You're hellbent on labeling billions of people because you can't see past your biases and emotions.

I've embarrassed a number of your friends on this thread already. I'm primed and ready to add you to that list.

Go at it. With what exactly do you disagree? That Obama's policies were an unmitigated disaster? I would be more than happy to argue the "yes" case on that one.

Greg

What if I told you that I agree with you? Obama's policies in the ME were disastrous. Look what he did to Israel at the U.N. last year.

What I disagree with is this rampant broadbrushing of an entire faith because of the actions of a few thousand radicals. And the idea that we should just simply wipe the religion out for that reason.

It's ludicrous.

Who said I said that?

Greg

You asked me what I disagreed with, so I gave you a general list. I never said you said anything in particular.

 

[Mindful]

All they need is a hug, right?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Ramadan.html
I can't get that little 8 yr. old girl's face out of my mind. Some posters here seem to be more upset at the reporter getting body slammed, than these young people getting blown up. There was a lot of broad brushing against Republicans there, so some of you need to get off your high horses.

True that. And there are tens of thousands just like her murdered in Syria by Assad and Isis. Murdered by those Obama "Passed" on.

Greg

There you go with Assad again. I think the US should support Assad, I've been following that for a couple years now.

The SA does not leave IEDs laying around villages, they clear them so the villagers can return.

Did you see all the Syrian citizens celebrating when SA regained control of Aleppo?

I know several good posters who would agree with you. Who was attacking the population in the first place?

Alas it is my bedtime. I would like nothing better than to continue this tomorrow. Thank you for your views.

Greg

British Airways under cyber attack. That'll be the next thing. The weapon of choice.

 

[beagle9]

If people who want to understand why these attacks keep happening in Europe, ISIS's on-line magazine explains it.

It reiterates Andrew Neil's remarks during his Jeremy Corbyn interview yesterday.

Let's see the Muslim apologists spin that.

That will indeed be interesting. I would suggest though that Isis speaks for themselves. How many other Moslems? I have no idea.

Greg

ISIS are the most devout Muslims.

Most twisted definitely. Devout? I really can't say. Many seem to be just disgusting fanatics.

Greg

. Disgusting fanatics who came to be by what maybe ? Is it the attempt to modernize their religion maybe or to compromise it by the suggesting that they should be more open to Western ways of cultural thinking ??? Hmmmm. What stirred the hornet's nest up like this these days ?? These people "The Muslims" with their strict adherence to their faith are attempting to live in a liberal majority cultural society, and that is just asking for trouble, because they won't compromise their beliefs for the downfalls taking place within the western cultural society, and this as they are attempting to live within it. They won't bend, so they figure the host will bend first.

 

[eagle1462010]

Bull crap....palestinians were pushed out to make room for settlers the whole world recognizes that and the UN issued dozens of condemnations against Israel that only the US vetoes (forest democracy).

The Conquistadors bombed Manchester? Whoda thunkit??

Greg

Sigh. Sarcasm is not a valid argument. Are you so obtuse that you can't see some of the same behavior and tactics being used by the Jihadists as the Conquistadors?

I can't alleviate your ignorance of history so I won't even try. Good night.

You're spanking AROUND the problem. It is not deeply rooted in History and more than a car accident was caused by the invention of the petrol engine. It is about Syria, Assad, and extremists filling the vacuum. THAT is the immediate cause. Oh; and a Useful Idiot to a shit cause.

Thank you for not bothering; it would have been embarrassing for you.

Greg

Lol, what's embarrassing is your attempt to talk yourself and your argument up. You're hellbent on labeling billions of people because you can't see past your biases and emotions.

I've embarrassed a number of your friends on this thread already. I'm primed and ready to add you to that list.

Shame based scolding works only from ill bred parents to children
It does not work on conservative adults
Middle eadt is a mess because they want it that way, squabbling about 1967 borders back to BC and everything in between
Strife is their identity and there is no real wish to give it up

 

[eagle1462010]

Lol, what's embarrassing is your attempt to talk yourself and your argument up. You're hellbent on labeling billions of people because you can't see past your biases and emotions.

I've embarrassed a number of your friends on this thread already. I'm primed and ready to add you to that list.

Shame based scolding works only from ill bred parents to children
It does not work on conservative adults
Middle eadt is a mess because they want it that way, squabbling about 1967 borders back to BC and everything in between
Strife is their identity and there is no real wish to give it up

There is that element to it but it still comes down to good old money and opportunity. The Assad regime is the root cause of the current problems. The opportunists are the ISIS scum. There are others in between but that's it in a nutshell.

Greg

How is the Assad regime the root cause of the current problems?

I'd say Hillary killing Khadaffi is more relative to what happened in Manchester.

Interesting point but without ISIS then there's no Libyan Connection for the Useful Idiot murderer. But true; there is a very significant "Hand of Hillary" on all this NOT TO REDUCE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE MURDEROUS SCUM HIMSELF!!!

Greg

Assad is battling ISIS and trying to rescue his citizens from them.

W. Bush invading Iraq (was not necessary) and Obama prematurely withdrawing troops, and then doing nothing to ISIS

when they were all in convoy is the reason they are as numerous as they are today.

Obama had a perfect opportunity and squandered it.

The question is: Was it ineptness or in support of the caliphate?

Camp Bucca....

US Camp Bucca in Iraq accidentally formed ISIS by housing jihadists together | Daily Mail Online

S Prison camp in Iraq accidentally formed ISIS by housing the most radial jihadists together and allowing them to organize terror group

• Camp Bucca in Iraq housed more than 100,000 men between 2003 and 2009
• Among those held in Camp Bucca was Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the current leader of ISIS
• Iraqi prisoners who refused to look at a Maxim magazine during an interrogation was considered to be more radical than others
• The worst jihadists were placed together where they had plenty of time to plot terror against America since US guards did not speak Arabic
• The jihadists wrote their contact info on the inside of their US provided boxer shorts in order to meet again upon being released

When U.S. forces pulled out of the region.............The U.S. military warned Iraq to NOT RELEASE THE REMAINING PRISONERS.............

That WARNING went unheeded......................

 

[eagle1462010]

Condensed History of the Region.

Enjoy.

 

[Tehon]

If people who want to understand why these attacks keep happening in Europe, ISIS's on-line magazine explains it.

It reiterates Andrew Neil's remarks during his Jeremy Corbyn interview yesterday.

Let's see the Muslim apologists spin that.

That will indeed be interesting. I would suggest though that Isis speaks for themselves. How many other Moslems? I have no idea.

Greg

They were making bombs in Manchester apartments. Under our noses.

A small price to pay for Israeli and Saudi security! (sarc)

 

[eagle1462010]

At 6:25 of the video.......you see the explanation.......quickly of the split of Islam into different groups.......Brought about by the Mongol Invasions and control of the region.............So roughly in 1600, the culmination of the civil Wars between rival groups within Islam occurred.......................And that INTERNAL struggle is the basis of the fighting between Sunni and Shia today..................Both believing they are the true path of Islam..........Why......because the leaders before went into a power struggle for control of the empire and set each other to War with each other.

The video shows..........that Caliphate after Caliphate occurred throughout Islamic History.........Well before we ever even existed as a Nation...........It shows how that they conquered Spain and nearly took France.........except for this guy..............

Who saved Europe from the Peaceful Muslim Invaders of his time...............Today the next caption would fit........

Then the Crusades to drive back the invasion of Muslim Forces.......and eventually the removal of all Muslims from Spain.......

Then further on........The Ottoman Empire expelled in WWI......The Ottoman Empire was another Caliphate to rule the region by the Sword and later the gun......

Expelled by the West and controlled primarily by England and France as the Turks sided with Germany and just committed Genocide in the Armenia.

This is what the Ottomans did during this Genocide............hanging on to their Empire by slaughtering the infidels of their time.

Make NO MISTAKE.......THIS IS HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF.........

 

[eagle1462010]

Enter Multi-Culturalism..........While many decide to live within the boundaries of the Host Nation........MANY refuse to conform to their new homes laws and beliefs.......then Use the hosts own laws and Humanity against them.........Because they believe that only 1 culture should prevail based on their Religion........In the Middle East History has repeated itself as the versions of Islam wage War against ALL who don't believe as they do................Or MAKE THEM SLAVES..........or PAY A TAX to remain.....................or slaughter them such as Coptic Christians and Kurds............Based on religion..............or the version of it they deem worthy............



Nations should NOT give up their NATIONAL IDENTITY or BELIEFS to APPEASE the Beliefs systems of others....................And those SWEARING OATHS of Citizenship in our countries should Not march down streets carrying signs THAT ARE BASICALLY SEDITION against the Country THEY HAVE SWORN an OATH of ALLENGENCE TO ..................Sedition being a slippery slope.................

What am I............as an American to do when I see protests in America that hold signs up saying Islam will Dominate, or even Death to America in our own cities??????????? Immediately when I point it out..............it's Islamaphobia...........your a Bigot.............You hate all Muslims...................Which is PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE................TO SILENCE FREE SPEECH...............

I WILL NOT BE SILENCED in that I will call out what I see here................I will not care when you call me names or say I'm the problem.............When I make these statements I am not saying it is all Muslims I'm against.............But against those who DO SUCH THINGS...........DAMN SKIPPY I'M CALLING YOU OUT..............

If you don't like it here............then you can choose the Freedom that was given to you when you came here..........The Freedom TO LEAVE HERE..........If you stay.......................To which do you adhere to.................Your Religion or to our country..................or your Religion while still accepting our beliefs and laws...........

enough for now...........