Explanation of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

[rylah]

It's like saying "they are all Hispanics". Someone from Argentina is different culturally than someone from Honduras.

Good luck trying...read the argument from the beginning.

 

[montelatici]

I did. Try improving your reading comprehension.

 

[rylah]

Well You know a famous phrase among muslim countries suggests very subtly:
"First comes Saturday-Shabbas then comes Sunday"...take Your time to really perceive what t means.

I think the saying is this: "First we will kill the Saturday people, then we will kill the Sunday people".

heard it many times, in mosques and at rallies.

Really, how many times have you been to a Mosque?

Quit a few times, but in the middle east you only need to turn on the radio. There are tapes available of the weeks prayers and speakers. In some mosques there is a TV or speakers in the women's area. Some mosques allow women in the main room at the back of the room.
Even a non muslim can stand at the door or just inside and watch. You can hear prayers and speeches outside most mosques. Many places have the overflow pray in the streets. Most mosques have loud speakers from the minarets so everyone in the neighborhood can hear.

You don't question what is said in the mosques but you question my presence in a mosque? Inside or outside what is said is still incitement against others of the book.

Do you speak Arabic?

It's doesn't matter to those wahabbi afghans who kill in the name of allah and don't know any arabic.

 

[rylah]

I did. Try improving your reading comprehension.

I'm not the one posting documents that discredit my own point of view.

 

[Coyote]

They differ from each other culturally and how they identify themselves.

Are all Europeans the same?

Are all Caucasians not Caucasians.
Are all Negro's not Negro's

That is the difference between Europeans and arabs, arabs are a race with racial characteristics, Europeans are just people from Europe of many races, cultures and creeds

If they are a race then like caucasians and negros - there is considerable cultural variation.

Culture is not racial or all negro's would have the same culture. As I said I am a European in name only I don't have the same culture as the French, Germans, Italians etc. even the Scots, Irish and Welsh have a different culture to the English and we all live on the same Island

BUT WE ARE ALL THE SAME RACE CAUCASION

I think we are same the same thing essentially. Arabs vary - they aren't all the same culture.

The vast majority of arabs follow Islamic culture, the tiny portion who are not muslim still have to follow Islamic culture

That's like saying the vast majority of Europeans follow Christian culture.

 

[Coyote]

No, I'm saying that they are not the same. All people of Arab-origin are not the same just like all Europeans are not the same.

Yeah yeah let's dance with words, "All people of Arab-origin" are ARABS.

They differ from each other culturally and how they identify themselves.

Are all Europeans the same?

Really round 2?
Europeans live wait for it...wait for it....O THE SAME CONTiNEnT.

Arabs who live n different continents- Africa and Asia do define themselves as ARABS
through the ARAB LEAGUE, nationalities have nothing to do with that.

Arabs who live on the same continent may call themselves Arabs (just like Europeans that live on the same continent call themselves Europeans and define themselves through the EU) but they aren't all culturally the same. It's not rocket science dude.

So what about arabs in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria? Same continent?
It's not rocket science, but You seem to loose the initial point of argument. They are all arabs.

Just like they're all Europeans. It's not "rocket science" but it's misleading.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Yeah yeah let's dance with words, "All people of Arab-origin" are ARABS.

They differ from each other culturally and how they identify themselves.

Are all Europeans the same?

Really round 2?
Europeans live wait for it...wait for it....O THE SAME CONTiNEnT.

Arabs who live n different continents- Africa and Asia do define themselves as ARABS
through the ARAB LEAGUE, nationalities have nothing to do with that.

Arabs who live on the same continent may call themselves Arabs (just like Europeans that live on the same continent call themselves Europeans and define themselves through the EU) but they aren't all culturally the same. It's not rocket science dude.

So what about arabs in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria? Same continent?
It's not rocket science, but You seem to loose the initial point of argument. They are all arabs.

Just like they're all Europeans. It's not "rocket science" but it's misleading.

Coyote and/or rylah--Have either of you ever been to various European and/or Arab countries? That's the only way to make a definitive decision about this issue. I read an article this week about when Paul McCartney first played a concert in Israel. He reportedly said, "I've heard many things about Israel, but hearing about it, and actually experiencing it, are two different things."

 

[Phoenall]

It's like saying "they are all Hispanics". Someone from Argentina is different culturally than someone from Honduras.

If you cant work it out then it is time to stop posting out of your league

 

[Phoenall]

Yeah yeah let's dance with words, "All people of Arab-origin" are ARABS.

They differ from each other culturally and how they identify themselves.

Are all Europeans the same?

Really round 2?
Europeans live wait for it...wait for it....O THE SAME CONTiNEnT.

Arabs who live n different continents- Africa and Asia do define themselves as ARABS
through the ARAB LEAGUE, nationalities have nothing to do with that.

Arabs who live on the same continent may call themselves Arabs (just like Europeans that live on the same continent call themselves Europeans and define themselves through the EU) but they aren't all culturally the same. It's not rocket science dude.

So what about arabs in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria? Same continent?
It's not rocket science, but You seem to loose the initial point of argument. They are all arabs.

Just like they're all Europeans. It's not "rocket science" but it's misleading.

Not even close as the arabs see themselves as all being arabs, it is arab nationality disease that caused the conflict in the first place. The Europeans see themselves as separate nationalities and have their own culture. Just as the Americans have different nationalities and cultures that don't mix. In the UK the migrant cultures have mixed with UK culture to produce a cuisine and fashion distinctive to the rest of the world. ALL BUT ISLAM THAT KEEPS ITSELF ALOOF AND APART FROM THE REST OF THE UK

 

[Phoenall]

Are all Caucasians not Caucasians.
Are all Negro's not Negro's

That is the difference between Europeans and arabs, arabs are a race with racial characteristics, Europeans are just people from Europe of many races, cultures and creeds

If they are a race then like caucasians and negros - there is considerable cultural variation.

Culture is not racial or all negro's would have the same culture. As I said I am a European in name only I don't have the same culture as the French, Germans, Italians etc. even the Scots, Irish and Welsh have a different culture to the English and we all live on the same Island

BUT WE ARE ALL THE SAME RACE CAUCASION

I think we are same the same thing essentially. Arabs vary - they aren't all the same culture.

The vast majority of arabs follow Islamic culture, the tiny portion who are not muslim still have to follow Islamic culture

That's like saying the vast majority of Europeans follow Christian culture.

Not at all as it is not a fundamental part of their culture to be of just one religion, and enforce it in their laws.

 

[Coyote]

Yes at all. Europe is very Christian in culture and there are many who are intolerant of other religions.

 

[Coyote]

They differ from each other culturally and how they identify themselves.

Are all Europeans the same?

Really round 2?
Europeans live wait for it...wait for it....O THE SAME CONTiNEnT.

Arabs who live n different continents- Africa and Asia do define themselves as ARABS
through the ARAB LEAGUE, nationalities have nothing to do with that.

Arabs who live on the same continent may call themselves Arabs (just like Europeans that live on the same continent call themselves Europeans and define themselves through the EU) but they aren't all culturally the same. It's not rocket science dude.

So what about arabs in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria? Same continent?
It's not rocket science, but You seem to loose the initial point of argument. They are all arabs.

Just like they're all Europeans. It's not "rocket science" but it's misleading.

Not even close as the arabs see themselves as all being arabs, it is arab nationality disease that caused the conflict in the first place. The Europeans see themselves as separate nationalities and have their own culture. Just as the Americans have different nationalities and cultures that don't mix. In the UK the migrant cultures have mixed with UK culture to produce a cuisine and fashion distinctive to the rest of the world. ALL BUT ISLAM THAT KEEPS ITSELF ALOOF AND APART FROM THE REST OF THE UK

There is a European "identity" expressed through the EU. The countries in western Europe share many commonalities - religion, political systems and cultural traditions. There also seperate nationalities/ethnic groups/cultural differences. They are all dominant Christian.

"Arabs" are defined as: Arabs - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Arabs (Arabic: عرب‎, ʿarab) are a major panethnic group.[14] They primarily inhabit Western Asia, North Africa, parts of the Horn of Africa, and other areas in the Arab world. Arabic-speaking populations in general are a highly heterogeneous collection of peoples, with different ancestral origins and identities. The ties that bind the Arab peoples are a veneer of shared heritage by virtue of common linguistic, cultural, and political traditions. As such, Arab identity is based on one or more of genealogical, linguistic or cultural grounds,[15] although with competing identities often taking a more prominent role,[16] based on considerations including regional, national, clan, kin, sect, and tribe affiliations and relationships. If the Arab panethnicity is regarded as a single population, then it constitutes one of the world's largest groups after Han Chinese.


The Arabian Peninsula itself was not entirely originally Arab. Arabization occurred in some parts of the Arabian Peninsula. For example, the language shift to Arabic displaced the indigenous South Semitic Old South Arabian languages of modern-day Yemen and southern Oman. These were the languages spoken in the civilisations of Sheba, Ubar, Magan, Dilmun, and Meluhha—which were spread via migrants from the Arabian peninsula, together with written script, in the 8th and 7th centuries BC to the Horn of Africa (Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and Somalia).​

Like with Africa, I think we just assume that they are all "pretty much the same"...we're just very ethnocentric and blind to the differences.

 

[Humanity]

You need to tell your mentally challenged, dumbass friend to do that...

I told him the video is here...

Temper, temper you know you will only make yourself sick carrying on like this all the time

You would be funny if you weren't so stupid!

It's rude to laugh at the afflicted!

Now. go find the video like a good child and watch what Netanyahu actually said, there's a clever boy

So in other words you don't have a link, figures. And you don't have the mental capacity to work that one out

Phoney, if you cannot be bothered to go look at the video then why the fuck should I bother posting you dumb fucking idiot!

So in other words you don't have a link, figures. And you don't have the mental capacity to work that one out.

Nor work out that you are having a major hissy fit and meltdown

Phoney, if you are the only person on this board who has not seen the link then that is YOUR issue NOT mine

 

[Humanity]

I do see myself as a Yorkshire man born and bred

Aha... Figures!

 

[Humanity]

Yes. And Europeans recognize themselves as Europeans. Ever heard of the EU?

So naturally, Italians are the same as Poles and Greeks are the same as Germans.

So You say Lebanon and Egypt are on the same continent?
Flawed logic because Europeans call themselves so for living on the same CONtINENT.

balestinians ARE arabs as their Jordan and Egyptian brothers and many more around Israel.

So how am I biased except for my life?

No, I'm saying that they are not the same. All people of Arab-origin are not the same just like all Europeans are not the same.

Yeah yeah let's dance with words, "All people of Arab-origin" are ARABS.

They differ from each other culturally and how they identify themselves.

Are all Europeans the same?

Are all Caucasians not Caucasians.
Are all Negro's not Negro's

That is the difference between Europeans and arabs, arabs are a race with racial characteristics, Europeans are just people from Europe of many races, cultures and creeds

What a stupid comparison!

Are all carrots not carrots?
Are all onions not onions?

WTF?!?!

 

[Phoenall]

Really round 2?
Europeans live wait for it...wait for it....O THE SAME CONTiNEnT.

Arabs who live n different continents- Africa and Asia do define themselves as ARABS
through the ARAB LEAGUE, nationalities have nothing to do with that.

Arabs who live on the same continent may call themselves Arabs (just like Europeans that live on the same continent call themselves Europeans and define themselves through the EU) but they aren't all culturally the same. It's not rocket science dude.

So what about arabs in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria? Same continent?
It's not rocket science, but You seem to loose the initial point of argument. They are all arabs.

Just like they're all Europeans. It's not "rocket science" but it's misleading.

Not even close as the arabs see themselves as all being arabs, it is arab nationality disease that caused the conflict in the first place. The Europeans see themselves as separate nationalities and have their own culture. Just as the Americans have different nationalities and cultures that don't mix. In the UK the migrant cultures have mixed with UK culture to produce a cuisine and fashion distinctive to the rest of the world. ALL BUT ISLAM THAT KEEPS ITSELF ALOOF AND APART FROM THE REST OF THE UK

There is a European "identity" expressed through the EU. The countries in western Europe share many commonalities - religion, political systems and cultural traditions. There also seperate nationalities/ethnic groups/cultural differences. They are all dominant Christian.

"Arabs" are defined as: Arabs - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Arabs (Arabic: عرب‎, ʿarab) are a major panethnic group.[14] They primarily inhabit Western Asia, North Africa, parts of the Horn of Africa, and other areas in the Arab world. Arabic-speaking populations in general are a highly heterogeneous collection of peoples, with different ancestral origins and identities. The ties that bind the Arab peoples are a veneer of shared heritage by virtue of common linguistic, cultural, and political traditions. As such, Arab identity is based on one or more of genealogical, linguistic or cultural grounds,[15] although with competing identities often taking a more prominent role,[16] based on considerations including regional, national, clan, kin, sect, and tribe affiliations and relationships. If the Arab panethnicity is regarded as a single population, then it constitutes one of the world's largest groups after Han Chinese.


The Arabian Peninsula itself was not entirely originally Arab. Arabization occurred in some parts of the Arabian Peninsula. For example, the language shift to Arabic displaced the indigenous South Semitic Old South Arabian languages of modern-day Yemen and southern Oman. These were the languages spoken in the civilisations of Sheba, Ubar, Magan, Dilmun, and Meluhha—which were spread via migrants from the Arabian peninsula, together with written script, in the 8th and 7th centuries BC to the Horn of Africa (Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and Somalia).​

Like with Africa, I think we just assume that they are all "pretty much the same"...we're just very ethnocentric and blind to the differences.

You do know about the animosity between Catholics and Protestants I take it, and how it rampant in Europe. Imagine N.I. only spread across Europe, so no commonality of religion. Then there are the offshoots of religion that caused the colonisation of America in the first place, the Lutherans and Quakers. There is no European identity as we are not a concerted whole, but disjointed and separate. We don't even have a common language or culture to bind us together. We are still fighting the last lot of wars. Don't try and see Europe as a federal nation like America as we will never be like that

 

[Phoenall]

Temper, temper you know you will only make yourself sick carrying on like this all the time

You would be funny if you weren't so stupid!

It's rude to laugh at the afflicted!

Now. go find the video like a good child and watch what Netanyahu actually said, there's a clever boy

So in other words you don't have a link, figures. And you don't have the mental capacity to work that one out

Phoney, if you cannot be bothered to go look at the video then why the fuck should I bother posting you dumb fucking idiot!

So in other words you don't have a link, figures. And you don't have the mental capacity to work that one out.

Nor work out that you are having a major hissy fit and meltdown

Phoney, if you are the only person on this board who has not seen the link then that is YOUR issue NOT mine

So in other words you don't have a link, figures. And you don't have the mental capacity to work that one out.

Nor work out that you are having a major hissy fit and meltdown

 

[Phoenall]

So You say Lebanon and Egypt are on the same continent?
Flawed logic because Europeans call themselves so for living on the same CONtINENT.

balestinians ARE arabs as their Jordan and Egyptian brothers and many more around Israel.

So how am I biased except for my life?

No, I'm saying that they are not the same. All people of Arab-origin are not the same just like all Europeans are not the same.

Yeah yeah let's dance with words, "All people of Arab-origin" are ARABS.

They differ from each other culturally and how they identify themselves.

Are all Europeans the same?

Are all Caucasians not Caucasians.
Are all Negro's not Negro's

That is the difference between Europeans and arabs, arabs are a race with racial characteristics, Europeans are just people from Europe of many races, cultures and creeds

What a stupid comparison!

Are all carrots not carrots?
Are all onions not onions?

WTF?!?!

NO they are not as we have made carrots and onions into poor images of the originals. Now carrots are more like cattle food and onions are tasteless bulbs.

Unless you want to prove Europeans are a race

 

[Humanity]

You would be funny if you weren't so stupid!

It's rude to laugh at the afflicted!

Now. go find the video like a good child and watch what Netanyahu actually said, there's a clever boy

So in other words you don't have a link, figures. And you don't have the mental capacity to work that one out

Phoney, if you cannot be bothered to go look at the video then why the fuck should I bother posting you dumb fucking idiot!

So in other words you don't have a link, figures. And you don't have the mental capacity to work that one out.

Nor work out that you are having a major hissy fit and meltdown

Phoney, if you are the only person on this board who has not seen the link then that is YOUR issue NOT mine

So in other words you don't have a link, figures. And you don't have the mental capacity to work that one out.

Nor work out that you are having a major hissy fit and meltdown

Link has been provided...

Step away from the computer, put your flat cap on and take your whippets for a nice walk, there's a good Phoney!

 

[toastman]

What are you talking about. Hopefully, they can work out a peaceful solution, but to say that the Palestinians should accept the blame for being colonized is absolutely ridiculous. The original problem is the movement of Europeans to Palestine with the intention of removing the inhabitants.

There you go with that Palestinian propaganda again. That was not the intention of the European Jews. Their intention was to escape anti Semitism and create Jewish homeland for themselves. It was the intention of the Arabs to get rid of the Jews from the region.