Expert: President Trump can issue executive order stopping family separations at the border

[JWBooth]

Political scientist Larry Sabato notes:

"Good for you, Melania. Now ask your husband to issue an executive order to stop this cruel policy. POTUS can end it TODAY. No need for Congress to act."

Larry Sabato on Twitter

Because rule by executive order is the way to go.

 

[hunarcy]

Is that so ? Why not ?

Why not? Because they are not serious offenses. Do you think we should throw jaywalkers in jail as well? How about people who run stop signs or speed? Kind of a silly question don’t you think?

It is an option to put an offender in jail on a misdemeanor...especially if the offender doesn't have a fixed address.

Yes, it’s also an option to put jaywalkers in jail but we aren’t questioning the legality, it’s a question about the right way to enforce.

The offender has no fixed address. His/her appearance in court cannot be guaranteed and if he/she is released, it is likely they will not be found and arrested for not appearing because they will not be found. It is the right way to enforce in such a circumstance.

That’s fine if you feel that way. Sounding like the majority of people disagree with you. Including Trump and Ted Cruz

LOL! No, you're tone deaf. The outrage is about separating kids, but that is beginning to mute as people learn the truth. You've run your course.

 

[Polishprince]

Now ask your husband to issue an executive order to stop this cruel policy. POTUS can end it TODAY. No need for Congress to act."

No he can't, the LAW requires President Trump to do exactly as he's done.

And if Trump were to decide to disobey the law, he'll be impeached by Friday.

High crime or misdemeanor.

 

[Slade3200]

Why not? Because they are not serious offenses. Do you think we should throw jaywalkers in jail as well? How about people who run stop signs or speed? Kind of a silly question don’t you think?

It is an option to put an offender in jail on a misdemeanor...especially if the offender doesn't have a fixed address.

Yes, it’s also an option to put jaywalkers in jail but we aren’t questioning the legality, it’s a question about the right way to enforce.

The offender has no fixed address. His/her appearance in court cannot be guaranteed and if he/she is released, it is likely they will not be found and arrested for not appearing because they will not be found. It is the right way to enforce in such a circumstance.

That’s fine if you feel that way. Sounding like the majority of people disagree with you. Including Trump and Ted Cruz

LOL! No, you're tone deaf. The outrage is about separating kids, but that is beginning to mute as people learn the truth. You've run your course.

Do I need to post a video of Trumps speech today when he literally said that we need to pass a law that keeps kids together with their families at the border? Did you read Ted Cruzes bill about the topic? So how am I the tone deaf one? You are simply ignoring facts

 

[bripat9643]

Gee. Obama could have done the same thing.

Don't see any of you complaining about Barry and those separated children.

Hypocrisy much???

Obama didn't separate children and parents.

We already know he did, dumbass.

No, fucking moron, he didn’t. Which means you’re just spewing bullshit as you always do.

Yes he did, you fucking dumbass.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes, that's exactly what we're saying. All this whining is just a sleazy political stunt. You just admitted it.

Except both of you are wrong -- this is a new policy -- if you don't believe me..Ask Pastor Jeff Sessions

Obama didn't split up families as policy -- when people keep saying that, they are lying....

Ask Jeff Sessions, he admits its his policy and he admits he uses it as a deterrent -- it just backfired and now they are relying on folks like you to blame on the black guy, per usual....

Sessions admits policy is a deterrent

Enforcing the law is a new policy?

Sad that you would admit that.

 

[bripat9643]

Just to inject a little context and perspective here: You realize that separating illegal families began under . . . Obama, right? Right? You know that, right?

So what? What does that have to do with anything that’s going on now? Do you really think that distracting from the situation by trying to point out political hypocrisy is of any help?

Are you trying to make a point that since Dems didn’t complain about it under Obama then they have no right to complain about what’s happening now? Fine, fair point so all the partisan hacks can beat it... so now that it is us moderates and independents left, what do you think about the issue at hand?

So, what is YOUR idea for a solution? Do you want the children to go to jail with their parents?

No I don’t think people need to go to jail for misdemeanor offenses

It depends on the offense. Drunk driving is a misdemeanor, but people often go to jail for it.

 

[Slade3200]

Yes, that's exactly what we're saying. All this whining is just a sleazy political stunt. You just admitted it.

Except both of you are wrong -- this is a new policy -- if you don't believe me..Ask Pastor Jeff Sessions

Obama didn't split up families as policy -- when people keep saying that, they are lying....

Ask Jeff Sessions, he admits its his policy and he admits he uses it as a deterrent -- it just backfired and now they are relying on folks like you to blame on the black guy, per usual....

Sessions admits policy is a deterrent

Enforcing the law is a new policy?

Sad that you would admit that.

Enforcing it with zero tolerance and extreme punishment is the issue and the new directive from Trump. Stop playing the games, we all know what’s going on

 

[petro]

Seems folks should be critical of Mexicos failure to protect refugees and illegal minors. Human Rights Watch seems to think so.
Mexico is detaining and deporting at the same levels as the U.S.

Children held in prison like conditions.
Waits to 6 months to hear of refugee status with no legal representation.
Lack of access to Healthcare.
Lack of proper screening to determine refugee status.

Closed Doors | Mexico’s Failure to Protect Central American Refugee and Migrant Children
HRW also states that Mexico has a right to enforce its border including unaccompanied children.


So does the United States.

 

[Slyhunter]

Yes, that's exactly what we're saying. All this whining is just a sleazy political stunt. You just admitted it.

Except both of you are wrong -- this is a new policy -- if you don't believe me..Ask Pastor Jeff Sessions

Obama didn't split up families as policy -- when people keep saying that, they are lying....

Ask Jeff Sessions, he admits its his policy and he admits he uses it as a deterrent -- it just backfired and now they are relying on folks like you to blame on the black guy, per usual....

Sessions admits policy is a deterrent

Enforcing the law is a new policy?

Sad that you would admit that.

Enforcing it with zero tolerance and extreme punishment is the issue and the new directive from Trump. Stop playing the games, we all know what’s going on

he's enforcing the law. Don't like the law then change it.

 

[Slade3200]

Yes, that's exactly what we're saying. All this whining is just a sleazy political stunt. You just admitted it.

Except both of you are wrong -- this is a new policy -- if you don't believe me..Ask Pastor Jeff Sessions

Obama didn't split up families as policy -- when people keep saying that, they are lying....

Ask Jeff Sessions, he admits its his policy and he admits he uses it as a deterrent -- it just backfired and now they are relying on folks like you to blame on the black guy, per usual....

Sessions admits policy is a deterrent

Enforcing the law is a new policy?

Sad that you would admit that.

Enforcing it with zero tolerance and extreme punishment is the issue and the new directive from Trump. Stop playing the games, we all know what’s going on

he's enforcing the law. Don't like the law then change it.

It’s illegal to jaywalk. Do you wanna throw jaywalkers in jail? It is theblaw afterall

 

[Slyhunter]

Yes, that's exactly what we're saying. All this whining is just a sleazy political stunt. You just admitted it.

Except both of you are wrong -- this is a new policy -- if you don't believe me..Ask Pastor Jeff Sessions

Obama didn't split up families as policy -- when people keep saying that, they are lying....

Ask Jeff Sessions, he admits its his policy and he admits he uses it as a deterrent -- it just backfired and now they are relying on folks like you to blame on the black guy, per usual....

Sessions admits policy is a deterrent

Enforcing the law is a new policy?

Sad that you would admit that.

Enforcing it with zero tolerance and extreme punishment is the issue and the new directive from Trump. Stop playing the games, we all know what’s going on

he's enforcing the law. Don't like the law then change it.

It’s illegal to jaywalk. Do you wanna throw jaywalkers in jail? It is theblaw afterall

We throw drunk drivers in jail.
We throw a lot of people in jail for a large various of criminal activity. Especially Trespassers.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Gee. Obama could have done the same thing.

Don't see any of you complaining about Barry and those separated children.

Hypocrisy much???

"Barry"? Nicely played, the base of bigots probably adores you.

But, I digress. President Obama is not President of the United States at the moment, and if every living FLOTUS had told him his policy was cruel and immoral I suspect President Obama would have considered their counsel and issue and EO to reunite the children with their parent(s).

Of course the current Commander-in-Chief's (donnie) moral turpitude will mean he will continue to blame Obama and the Democrats as will the Trumpanzees, and never take any responsibility for things which go awry.

So, you want the children in jail with the parents?

Did I write that? Nope, I didn't, but the children should not be detained. They are being detained now, and that is cruel and immoral, as well as a violation of Bill of Rights.

There are group homes run by social workers in CA. for dependent children (see: 300 W&I ,Code, et seq.) which would be an acceptable alternative for children age 0 to 17. The cost begins about $4,000 dollars a month and go up depending on the needs of the child.

Many group homes are co-ed and would allow siblings to live together, group homes have professional staff to bring residents to family meetings, and the children can attend the local public school, or be home schooled by credential teachers, staff will make sure the children see a dentist and have a full physical within the first couple of weeks in the facility and Social Workers will provide counseling, along with a Psychologist which are on staff or contract with the G.H.

 

[Slyhunter]

Gee. Obama could have done the same thing.

Don't see any of you complaining about Barry and those separated children.

Hypocrisy much???

"Barry"? Nicely played, the base of bigots probably adores you.

But, I digress. President Obama is not President of the United States at the moment, and if every living FLOTUS had told him his policy was cruel and immoral I suspect President Obama would have considered their counsel and issue and EO to reunite the children with their parent(s).

Of course the current Commander-in-Chief's (donnie) moral turpitude will mean he will continue to blame Obama and the Democrats as will the Trumpanzees, and never take any responsibility for things which go awry.

So, you want the children in jail with the parents?

Did I write that? Nope, I didn't, but the children should not be detained. They are being detained now, and that is cruel and immoral, as well as a violation of Bill of Rights.

There are group homes run by social workers in CA. for dependent children (see: 300 W&I ,Code, et seq.) which would be an acceptable alternative for children age 0 to 17. The cost begins about $4,000 dollars a month and go up depending on the needs of the child.

Many group homes are co-ed and would allow siblings to live together, group homes have professional staff to bring residents to family meetings, and the children can attend the local public school, or be home schooled by credential teachers, staff will make sure the children see a dentist and have a full physical within the first couple of weeks in the facility and Social Workers will provide counseling, along with a Psychologist which are on staff or contract with the G.H.

They're not American citizens as such they're not allowed in our country.
Send them back, kick them out on Mexico's side of the border, or put them in prison are your only choices.

 

[toobfreak]

Political scientist Larry Sabato notes:

"Good for you, Melania. Now ask your husband to issue an executive order to stop this cruel policy. POTUS can end it TODAY. No need for Congress to act."

Larry Sabato on Twitter

Sorry, no, Ted. To issue such an EO would be a misuse of his Executive powers, and we wouldn't want THAT! The Dems just got done saying that the President uses them too heavily as it is. Here is a perfect place to start CUTTING BACK.

 

[Slade3200]

Except both of you are wrong -- this is a new policy -- if you don't believe me..Ask Pastor Jeff Sessions

Obama didn't split up families as policy -- when people keep saying that, they are lying....

Ask Jeff Sessions, he admits its his policy and he admits he uses it as a deterrent -- it just backfired and now they are relying on folks like you to blame on the black guy, per usual....

Sessions admits policy is a deterrent

Enforcing the law is a new policy?

Sad that you would admit that.

Enforcing it with zero tolerance and extreme punishment is the issue and the new directive from Trump. Stop playing the games, we all know what’s going on

he's enforcing the law. Don't like the law then change it.

It’s illegal to jaywalk. Do you wanna throw jaywalkers in jail? It is theblaw afterall

We throw drunk drivers in jail.
We throw a lot of people in jail for a large various of criminal activity. Especially Trespassers.

Well the last few administrations didn’t just throw people in jail for simply crossing the , they had a different process. Trump changed the directive to zero tolerance. You understand that right?

 

[Slyhunter]

Enforcing the law is a new policy?

Sad that you would admit that.

Enforcing it with zero tolerance and extreme punishment is the issue and the new directive from Trump. Stop playing the games, we all know what’s going on

he's enforcing the law. Don't like the law then change it.

It’s illegal to jaywalk. Do you wanna throw jaywalkers in jail? It is theblaw afterall

We throw drunk drivers in jail.
We throw a lot of people in jail for a large various of criminal activity. Especially Trespassers.

Well the last few administrations didn’t just throw people in jail for simply crossing the , they had a different process. Trump changed the directive to zero tolerance. You understand that right?

You understand why we have to stop and control immigration legal and illegal right?

If your ignorant on the subject watch this video and enlighten yourself.

 

[Slade3200]

Enforcing it with zero tolerance and extreme punishment is the issue and the new directive from Trump. Stop playing the games, we all know what’s going on

he's enforcing the law. Don't like the law then change it.

It’s illegal to jaywalk. Do you wanna throw jaywalkers in jail? It is theblaw afterall

We throw drunk drivers in jail.
We throw a lot of people in jail for a large various of criminal activity. Especially Trespassers.

Well the last few administrations didn’t just throw people in jail for simply crossing the , they had a different process. Trump changed the directive to zero tolerance. You understand that right?

You understand why we have to stop and control immigration legal and illegal right?

If your ignorant on the subject watch this video and enlighten yourself.

Of course I understand it and I support smart reform. Traumatizing children as a scare tactic is not a something I support

 

[Leo123]

How do you know that the 'parents' are really the parents of these children? There is little to no paperwork. ((after all, ya'll refer to them as 'undocumented') For all you know that 'parent' might be trafficking children for child porn, etc. If Trump lifted the separation regulation, he could be sentencing innocent children to a life of slavery. In short, there are REASONS for the separation and those separations don't last long. You leftist assholes don't really give a shit about these kids.

 

[Slade3200]

How do you know that the 'parents' are really the parents of these children? There is little to no paperwork. ((after all, ya'll refer to them as 'undocumented') For all you know that 'parent' might be trafficking children for child porn, etc. If Trump lifted the separation regulation, he could be sentencing innocent children to a life of slavery. In short, there are REASONS for the separation and those separations don't last long. You leftist assholes don't really give a shit about these kids.

Great point. So why is Trump now calling for legislation to keep families together? Why would he be joining the leftists in their effort to sentence children to a life slavery?