The simple fact is the NFL is run by 32 billionaires. One billionaire wields enormous power. Now, how much power do 32 billionaires wield? Think about it.
The reason there has not been an NFL team in Los Angeles over the last 20 years is about creating leverage to force as many cities as they could to finance new stadiums with tax subsidized dollars.
Trust this, the owners are as about making money as they are about their teams winning. In fact I would say most owners are MORE about the business aspect of it than they are about the "integrity" of the game. The use the word "safety" the way government does. As a justifiable reason to fine ignorant uneducated millionaires for whatever reason that can be classified as concerns of "safety."
When Art Modell of the Browns received the offer from Baltimore that they would fund a new stadium through public funding, and offered to pay him 50 million just to agree to move there, Modell had no real choice, did he?
What did all of the other owners want to know after that? Where the fuck is my deal? That, is what they were asking. So, soon after the Browns left Cleveland, it was during this same period that the NFL moved teams out of LA. In order to create leverage to bully cities one by one to have public funing for new stadiums be built.
Denver owner was one of the first. He went so far as to remove the D from their old helmets. Most of the teams new stadiums were built from tax dollars, and virtually all of them threatened to move to LA. Look up Minnesota. They were the last team, and Goodell went to Minnesota to show the city that they were indeed moving to LA.
There are a lot more things the owners do that would surprise many.
Modell at least left the team name in Cleveland so he might have saved himself from burning in hell unlike the bitch who had her husband murdered off so she could inherit the team and move it to st Louis her hometown.did you know about that one?
also.amazingly,it doesn't sound like you are aware of the announcement that kronke made in early January of aquiring an additional 300acres of land in addition to the 60 acres he bought last year and making the announcement that he plans to build an NFL stadium there near the forum?
after that announcement came out,not only has the st louis media come out and now say that THEY don't think the rams will be in st Louis past this year which is really funny cause they been calling people like me nutcases the past year for suggesting they would come back to LA
but everybody that came on here trolling my thread in the beginning last september saying that kronke was just using that land purchase for leverage for a new stadium,they all have done EXACTLY what I predicted they would do back then.they have NOW done an about face and back peddled claiming they never said the rams would never come back to LA.which is funny cause I asked them back then will they be too arrogant to admit they are wrong when the rams come back and they never answered the question,so NOW they are doing what I said they WOULD do back then,ever since that announcement came out early in January,they have all either lied and said they never said that,or they have left and not returned to admit how stupid they were.
I have to laugh at all the fools who said they would not be moving back and have lied as I said they would back then because they seem to be stupid in the fact that this place keeps records of things you said in the past.
so what do they do? they come on and accuse ME of being the liar just like the trolls they are.
oh and the situation with the Vikings and the rams using LA for leverage for a new stadium is completely different like night and day.when the Vikings were talking about moving to LA,you had city and county officials going all over the place lobbying corporations and having constant talks with the Vikings for a new stadium in the prior years before that.NONE of that has gone on in st Louis.plus st Louis is bankrupt,they talk about a new stadium,but they are in millions in debt already for the stadium they play in now so even if they are serious about getting a new stadium which from the plans they have presented,they don't look serious at all,they have no way to fund the stadium.
and see that's the REASON why kronke is moving to LA either this year or for sure next year,is because of money.playing in the 2nd biggest media market in the country,the value of his team alone triples which makes him three times richer. remember the sale of the clippers,how the value of it was increased because it was in LA?
I have been saying they were moving back to LA for about 15 years now. There will be another team, and like NY there will be two teams most likely that will share one stadium. One AFC team, and one NFC team. I predict the Chargers will be in LA with the Rams.
Anyway, there are all sorts of things the NFL does. Their blatant lies that the owners lost money due to overhead a few years ago with the lock out was just that ridiculous.
Robert Kraft bought the Pats in 1994 for 174 million dollars. In 2009, their valuation was estimated at 1.4 billion dollars. That is around a 976% increase in valuation. Those valuations are not just numbers thrown out there and made up. They are based on the a teams ability to generate cash.
The NFL has at least 4 billion dollar revenue streams it did not have in the 80s. NFL Network to name one, Madden Football which a billion dollar product (all video gaming rights is under this), fantasy football phenomenon is certainly a billion dollar industry. To say nothing of the fact that at least 70% of all merchandise sold is done over the internet which directly cuts out the middle man. That is vast overhead that is saved. Did I mention how many stadiums are financed publicly where the owners receive windfall profits through socialist means?
The scams are vast. Do not get me started on how Tebow was forced on the Jets so they could get his jersey sold in the biggest market in the world and how Michael Sam was drafted by the ONE TEAM that did not need him the most. The Rams were so deep at DE, and we know they did not need him. He was drafted and immediately his jersey was sold and wouldn't you know it was third in jerseys sold.
The list goes on and on. What do you think the owners discuss in their annual meeting where there are strict gag rules?
that's why I enjoy having discussions with you,see I don't agree with everything you said on my other thread about carrol not throwing the game but I respect your opinions and thoughts on it.Im glad to see that you respect mine about it as well.that you don't get into childish name calling like so many others here do just cause I don't agree with you.
Its a refreshing change to discuss this with someone that is on top of all this that I don't have to explain all this to about there being a team in LA just to watch it all go ignored like so many here have.
Im impressed with your knowledge on this because I think you are the first one that has been on top of this that understands that LA is out of the picture for the raiders.
as I said,so many fools have come on this thread saying LA will never have a team again,they are just using it for leverage. the very few that DID come on here and say that LA would have a team,they all ignorant said the raiders would be the second team.if they had done any research,they would know that if there is a second team from the AFC,that it would be the chargers cause LA is out of the picture for the raiders.
for one,the owners are sore at the davis family cause of al suing them to move to LA so davis would never get the apporoval form the owners to move there,plus the city doesnt want them there,they voted against the move.cant move to city if the city doesn't want you there.
oh and the raiders have a deal nearly signed for a new stadium,they have a billionaire investor and he has said he will only fund the stadium in Oakland.thank god.they only thing holding up the deal is the politics between the city and the country.
not only that,bu the NFL wants an owner with deep pockets like kronke,davis does not have deep pockets.plus the NFL offered levi stadium for davis to share and he did not want to do that.If he didn't want to share levi stadium with the niners,then WHY would he move to LA and share with kroneke?
you see the kind of idiots I have to deal with around here?
so yeah,Im glad YOU understand that if it is going to be an AFC team,it will be the chargers,this might be the last year we get to hear them called san diego chargers unfortunately.
that would be a mistake for them to move away though because doesn't spanos even understand that the chargers played in LA their first season when they came into the league but moved to san diego cause they could not compete with the rams for attendance only averaging around 20,000 per game? why would it be any different for them this time,they have no fans in LA practically.
where the rams have along history there,they packed them on Monday night games in the 70's and 80's.
spanos would be really really stupid to move the chargers though.for one,they have no fan base in LA at all.The raiders at least have somewhat of a fanbase there.Limited but have one.the chargers though,have none at all and if they did move,that would alienate all the charger fans in san diego and they would have zero fan support,the fans in LA would not support them and they would lose their support from the san diego fans that they have.they wouldn't go see them feeling betrayed they left them.
if the NFL so badly wants two teams,they are going find out that will be a disaster for them,that just because it works in new York,doesnt mean it works in LA.LA is not like new York,sure they have the population to support two teams,but they will ONLY support one though and that's the rams because of their long history there.
so the NFL will fuck up if they don't come to their senses and give up this ludicrous idea of two teams.
