Examining Black Loyalty to Democrats

[maineman]

In other words, if you did give the opinions of black democrats you would find that they share the same opinion as me and Daveman. The message that Democrats gives to poor blacks is if you remain poor, uneducated and vote for Democrats, we will celebrate your victimhood. If you get a good education, get a good job and vote for Republicans, we will denigrate you as “acting white”, a “sellout”, an “Uncle Tom”, a “House Negro”, a “House ******”, a “Lawn Jockey”, and worse.

When black Democrat Juan Williams wrote his book entitled “Enough:
The Phony Leaders, Dead-end Movements and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America” that exposed the deplorable conditions in black communities, Williams was denounced on national TV by another black Democrat as a “Happy Negro”.

Democrats now love Gen. Colin Powell, but spewed out racist attacks on Powell before he endorsed Obama and embraced the liberal agenda of higher taxes and a bigger government to provide poverty-producing handouts to blacks.

no. In other words, blacks vote for democrats. poor blacks vote for democrats. middle class blacks vote for democrats. rich blacks vote for democrats. uneducated blacks vote for democrats. highly educated blacks vote for democrats. I have never said that ALL blacks vote for democrats. You can spout the opinions of black republicans as to why that is the case, but I doubt you will find too many blacks who actually believe that democrats celebrate their victimhood and still vote for the democrat. YOu guys need to figure out how you are going to change that... I, of course, hope you continue to rely on your proven southern strategy and not worry about how you are losing people of color.

And you refuse to acknowledge the reason why they vote the way they do. How convenient.

You are one ignorant fuck and apparently you plan on staying that way. Good luck with it, I hope ignorance and stupidity works out for you.

No. I simply refuse to accept your racist opinion as to the reason they vote the way they do.

big difference.

90%

FACT

what you gonna DO about it? that's the question.

 

[JBeukema]

I think I'll skip pages 5-44;


I don't suspect they contain anything other than more gross stupidity and subtle racism

 

[Lonestar_logic]

no. In other words, blacks vote for democrats. poor blacks vote for democrats. middle class blacks vote for democrats. rich blacks vote for democrats. uneducated blacks vote for democrats. highly educated blacks vote for democrats. I have never said that ALL blacks vote for democrats. You can spout the opinions of black republicans as to why that is the case, but I doubt you will find too many blacks who actually believe that democrats celebrate their victimhood and still vote for the democrat. YOu guys need to figure out how you are going to change that... I, of course, hope you continue to rely on your proven southern strategy and not worry about how you are losing people of color.

And you refuse to acknowledge the reason why they vote the way they do. How convenient.

You are one ignorant fuck and apparently you plan on staying that way. Good luck with it, I hope ignorance and stupidity works out for you.

No. I simply refuse to accept your racist opinion as to the reason they vote the way they do.

big difference.

90%

FACT

what you gonna DO about it? that's the question.

Yes you refuse to accept my opinion, which is shared by many black Americans and you refuse to offer your own opinion. So suffice it to say you do not have an opinion of your own and you ignore the opinions of black Americans that have seen thru the lies and deceptions of the Democratic party. At least you acknowledged that you choose to remain ignorant.

 

[maineman]

And you refuse to acknowledge the reason why they vote the way they do. How convenient.

You are one ignorant fuck and apparently you plan on staying that way. Good luck with it, I hope ignorance and stupidity works out for you.

No. I simply refuse to accept your racist opinion as to the reason they vote the way they do.

big difference.

90%

FACT

what you gonna DO about it? that's the question.

Yes you refuse to accept my opinion, which is shared by many black Americans and you refuse to offer your own opinion. So suffice it to say you do not have an opinion of your own and you ignore the opinions of black Americans that have seen thru the lies and deceptions of the Democratic party. At least you acknowledged that you choose to remain ignorant.

bolded word actually means "<10% of total" in the above paragraph.

And suffice it to say that I have expressed my opinion on this issue ad nauseum... and you have expressed yours... which I find offensively dismissive and racist... so why don't we cut to the chase and quit discussing the WHY's of black voting behavior and get to the bottom line? what does the GOP intend to DO about the fact that 90% of blacks vote for democrats... other than continue to ineffectively WHINE about it as you have done here?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

No. I simply refuse to accept your racist opinion as to the reason they vote the way they do.

big difference.

90%

FACT

what you gonna DO about it? that's the question.

Yes you refuse to accept my opinion, which is shared by many black Americans and you refuse to offer your own opinion. So suffice it to say you do not have an opinion of your own and you ignore the opinions of black Americans that have seen thru the lies and deceptions of the Democratic party. At least you acknowledged that you choose to remain ignorant.

bolded word actually means "<10% of total" in the above paragraph.

And suffice it to say that I have expressed my opinion on this issue ad nauseum... and you have expressed yours... which I find offensively dismissive and racist... so why don't we cut to the chase and quit discussing the WHY's of black voting behavior and get to
the bottom line? what does the GOP intend to DO about the fact that 90% of blacks vote for democrats... other than continue to ineffectively WHINE about it as you have done here?

No, what you have done "ad nauseum" was repeat that more blacks vote democratic and never once offered an opinion as to why.

And when I say "many" I mean many, not 10 percent you ignorant fuck!

 

[maineman]

Yes you refuse to accept my opinion, which is shared by many black Americans and you refuse to offer your own opinion. So suffice it to say you do not have an opinion of your own and you ignore the opinions of black Americans that have seen thru the lies and deceptions of the Democratic party. At least you acknowledged that you choose to remain ignorant.

bolded word actually means "<10% of total" in the above paragraph.

And suffice it to say that I have expressed my opinion on this issue ad nauseum... and you have expressed yours... which I find offensively dismissive and racist... so why don't we cut to the chase and quit discussing the WHY's of black voting behavior and get to
the bottom line? what does the GOP intend to DO about the fact that 90% of blacks vote for democrats... other than continue to ineffectively WHINE about it as you have done here?

No, what you have done "ad nauseum" was repeat that more blacks vote democratic and never once offered an opinion as to why.

And when I say "many" I mean many, not 10 percent you ignorant fuck!

your use of the word "many" is imprecise. "Many" blacks do not hold your opinion unless the word means less than 10% We have already established that 90% of blacks do, in fact, vote for democrats.

and I HAVE offered my opinion as to why blacks or anyone else for that matter might chose to vote for the democratic party.

my question to you is... again... what are you gonna DO about it other than whine?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

bolded word actually means "<10% of total" in the above paragraph.

And suffice it to say that I have expressed my opinion on this issue ad nauseum... and you have expressed yours... which I find offensively dismissive and racist... so why don't we cut to the chase and quit discussing the WHY's of black voting behavior and get to
the bottom line? what does the GOP intend to DO about the fact that 90% of blacks vote for democrats... other than continue to ineffectively WHINE about it as you have done here?

No, what you have done "ad nauseum" was repeat that more blacks vote democratic and never once offered an opinion as to why.

And when I say "many" I mean many, not 10 percent you ignorant fuck!

your use of the word "many" is imprecise. "Many" blacks do not hold your opinion unless the word means less than 10% We have already established that 90% of blacks do, in fact, vote for democrats.

and I HAVE offered my opinion as to why blacks or anyone else for that matter might chose to vote for the democratic party.

my question to you is... again... what are you gonna DO about it other than whine?

My use of the word "many" was precisely the word I intended to use. Many blacks do share my opinion, but you refuse to acknowledge it. No we haven't established that fact, the fact is not every black person eligible to vote actually votes. So to say that 90 percent of them vote democratic is disingenuous.

And I don't recall you ever offering an opinion as to why blacks vote more often for Democratic nominees.

What am I going to do about what exactly? Personally I don't care if the majority of the blacks stay ignorant about their own civil rights history. For all I care they can do exactly what LBJ stated he would have them do when he said “I’ll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years”.

http://www.factcheck.org/

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, Lonestar, very, very few black Americans share your opinion.

Your opinion is racist, and it is built on a distortion of the facts.

Black Americans know that unAmerican folks like you are not their friends, so, yes, they are going to vote against candidates you support. They would be stupid to do anything else.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

No, Lonestar, very, very few black Americans share your opinion.

Your opinion is racist, and it is built on a distortion of the facts.

Black Americans know that unAmerican folks like you are not their friends, so, yes, they are going to vote against candidates you support. They would be stupid to do anything else.

You've brought nothing but opinion to this discussion, I have brought historical facts and personal opinions from black Americans that support my position.

Run along little one.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No, Lonestar, very, very few black Americans share your opinion.

Your opinion is racist, and it is built on a distortion of the facts.

Black Americans know that unAmerican folks like you are not their friends, so, yes, they are going to vote against candidates you support. They would be stupid to do anything else.

Jake, who first introduced Civil Rights Act? Who opposed it?

 

[JakeStarkey]

I have brought historical fact and balanced, nuanced analysis that completely defeats your position, Lonestar.

Blacks have every right to be afraid of folks like you.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I grew up with the lies that LBJ was a great Civil Rights Activist.

The ugly truth is that he was the one who killed Ike's Civil Rights Act so Southern Dems could keep stomping on black for 7 more years until LBJ could co-opt the Civil Rights movement

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I have brought historical fact and balanced, nuanced analysis that completely defeats your position, Lonestar.

Blacks have every right to be afraid of folks like you.

Ike first introduced the Civil Rights Act, Liar

LBJ personally stopped it, Liar

 

[maineman]

No, what you have done "ad nauseum" was repeat that more blacks vote democratic and never once offered an opinion as to why.

And when I say "many" I mean many, not 10 percent you ignorant fuck!

your use of the word "many" is imprecise. "Many" blacks do not hold your opinion unless the word means less than 10% We have already established that 90% of blacks do, in fact, vote for democrats.

and I HAVE offered my opinion as to why blacks or anyone else for that matter might chose to vote for the democratic party.

my question to you is... again... what are you gonna DO about it other than whine?

My use of the word "many" was precisely the word I intended to use. Many blacks do share my opinion, but you refuse to acknowledge it. No we haven't established that fact, the fact is not every black person eligible to vote actually votes. So to say that 90 percent of them vote democratic is disingenuous.

And I don't recall you ever offering an opinion as to why blacks vote more often for Democratic nominees.

What am I going to do about what exactly? Personally I don't care if the majority of the blacks stay ignorant about their own civil rights history. For all I care they can do exactly what LBJ stated he would have them do when he said “I’ll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years”.

http://www.factcheck.org/

90% of blacks who cast ballots, cast them for democrats. That IS a fact... and, like I said, MANY is an extremely imprecise word.

Many could be twenty. Wow. Twenty black people buy your line of shit. Congratulations.

Next, your powers of recollection leave something to be desired.

And... if you don't CARE about the fact that 90% of black voters vote for democrats, why in the world do you spend a nanosecond of your life talking about the topic? Really.... quit posting on this thread if you don't CARE about it. Life's way too short to spend any time thinking or talking about things that don't matter to us.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Lonestar is a poseur who has been p'wnd.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I have brought historical fact and balanced, nuanced analysis that completely defeats your position, Lonestar.

Blacks have every right to be afraid of folks like you.

Yes folks like me will demand blacks take responsibility for themselves and their families. They should be very afraid.

And you've brought no such evidence.

1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party

2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party

3. What Party passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting blacks freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party

4. What Party passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting blacks protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, and was the Party of most blacks prior to the 1960’s, including Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party

5. What was the Party of the founding fathers of the NAACP?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party

6. What was the Party of President Dwight Eisenhower who sent U.S. troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools, established the Civil Rights Commission in 1958, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party

7. What Party, by the greatest percentage, passed the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950’s and 1960’s?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party

8. What was the Party of President Richard Nixon who instituted the first Affirmative Action program in 1969 with the Philadelphia Plan that established goals and timetables?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party

9. What is the Party of President George W. Bush who appointed more blacks to high-level positions than any president in history and who spent record money education, job training and health care to help black Americans prosper?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


10. What Party fought to keep blacks in slavery and was the Party of the Ku Klux Klan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

11. What Party from 1870 to 1930 used fraud, whippings, lynching, murder, intimidation, and mutilation to get the black vote, and passed the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws which legalized racial discrimination and denied blacks their rights as citizens?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

12. What was the Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Harry Truman who rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

13. What was the Party of President Lyndon Johnson, who called Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “that [N-word] preacher” because he opposed the Viet Nam War; and President John F. Kennedy who voted against the 1957 Civil Rights law as a Senator, then as president opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. after becoming president and the FBI investigate Dr. King on suspicion of being a communist?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

14. What is the Party of the late Senators Robert Byrd who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Ernest “Fritz” Hollings who hoisted the Confederate flag over the state capitol in South Carolina while governor, and Ted Kennedy who called black judicial nominees “Neanderthals” while blocking their appointments?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

15. What was the Party of President Bill Clinton who failed to fight the terrorists after the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, sent troops to war in Bosnia and Kosovo without Congressional approval, vetoed the Welfare Reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

16. What is the Party of Vice President Al Gore whose father voted against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s, and who lost the 2000 election as confirmed by a second recount of Florida votes by the “Miami Herald” and a consortium of major news organizations and the ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that blacks were not denied the right to vote?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

17. What Party is against school vouchers, against school prayers, and takes the black vote for granted without ever acknowledging their racist past or apologizing for trying to expand slavery, lynching blacks and passing the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws that caused great harm to blacks?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


NOTE: All answers are "b."

 

[Lonestar_logic]

your use of the word "many" is imprecise. "Many" blacks do not hold your opinion unless the word means less than 10% We have already established that 90% of blacks do, in fact, vote for democrats.

and I HAVE offered my opinion as to why blacks or anyone else for that matter might chose to vote for the democratic party.

my question to you is... again... what are you gonna DO about it other than whine?

My use of the word "many" was precisely the word I intended to use. Many blacks do share my opinion, but you refuse to acknowledge it. No we haven't established that fact, the fact is not every black person eligible to vote actually votes. So to say that 90 percent of them vote democratic is disingenuous.

And I don't recall you ever offering an opinion as to why blacks vote more often for Democratic nominees.

What am I going to do about what exactly? Personally I don't care if the majority of the blacks stay ignorant about their own civil rights history. For all I care they can do exactly what LBJ stated he would have them do when he said “I’ll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years”.

http://www.factcheck.org/

90% of blacks who cast ballots, cast them for democrats. That IS a fact... and, like I said, MANY is an extremely imprecise word.

Many could be twenty. Wow. Twenty black people buy your line of shit. Congratulations.

Next, your powers of recollection leave something to be desired.

And... if you don't CARE about the fact that 90% of black voters vote for democrats, why in the world do you spend a nanosecond of your life talking about the topic? Really.... quit posting on this thread if you don't CARE about it. Life's way too short to spend any time thinking or talking about things that don't matter to us.

Show that the 90 percent voting rate among blacks has been consistent over the course of say 30 years and not just the last few election cycles, and you may have a legitimate claim.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Lonestar is a poseur who has been p'wnd.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Lonestar is a poseur who has been p'wnd.

You're a fucking retard that obviously doesn't know the meaning of the word poseur.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hey, poseur, more than 93% of black Americans disagree with you, bub.

You have nothing more to add. Move along. You have lost.