If It is Proven That The Democrats Stole the 2020 Election, What Should Be Done?

[DonGlock26]

"The democrats stole the 2020 election. It was rigged!"

- Said by guy who won two elections

But not 2020. The Dems and Rinos did not expect to hear from Trump again, but the American People
said differently.

 

[candycorn]

They needed corrupt large Democrat counties in swing states. Those were NOT pro GOP House districts. Got it?

Then how did Kelly Ayotte win in New Hampshire while Biden won the state?

How did Biden not win North Carolina but a Democrat won the Governor's Seat?

Why didn't the DNC win both Senate seats outright?

All of those were statewide races.... All three in battleground states....

Those races prove your theory false.
Logic and common sense prove your theory crazy.

 

[JohnDB]

And this is why executions and lifetime jail sentences including expatriations need to happen (all assets seized as well when this happens)

 

[DennisPTate]

The GA 2020 election evidence is finally being examined outside of Fulton co Democrats' control by the FBI.
If it is proven that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, etc, what should be done
to remedy the crime committed against our Republic?

I chose five out of the seven and now that I have re-read the poll, I should have chosen six out of the seven, [with the exception of "other]"

Thank you for the "Change your vote" box. I now have chosen six of the seven poll responses.

 

[scruffy]

Off with their heads!

 

[leftwinger]

Epstien my butt. A non-issue.

Your meat in 2020 is still out there. Over 1.9 million in Maricopa. Millions not checked. Only 200K walking votes. Do the math goat cheese brained Stainof these boards. //

 

[Kruska]

The GA 2020 election evidence is finally being examined outside of Fulton co Democrats' control by the FBI.
If it is proven that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, etc, what should be done
to remedy the crime committed against our Republic?

1.st Replace your 3rd world countries voting machines and system, with that of an advanced civilized country.

2.nd If the alleged election fraud proves to be false (which it is) - arrest all MAGA honchos and throw them in prison.
MAGA dolts need to undergo psychotherapy treatment for a minimum of one year. Those below the age of 32 need to repeat high-school, homeschooling will not be allowed.

That should do it, To Make America Great Again.

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

But not 2020. The Dems and Rinos did not expect to hear from Trump again, but the American People
said differently.

Yeah, dude, the Dems were rigging the election and were able to leak zero evidence of them doing this.

What your administration and media people have said about the 2020 election and claims that they have made to their audience, aka, you guys, is COMPLETELY different to what they have said when they take it through the legal path. Because they don't have shit. Trump's own people told him there is no evidence. Trump would seek out and only listen to people that would entertain his idea that it was rigged. He decided it was rigged before it even happened.

You guys are willing to believe that Dems somehow rigged this despite no evidence. No evidence that they co-ordinated to do this either. Only conspricacy theories.

But then you all completely ignore the Jan 6th Committee Report that includes a lot of evidence in emails and actual correspondence going over strategies to steal the election. A Jan 6th Committee Report where a lot of witness evidence is from Trump's own people. You have Trump's own former VP on camera basically saying that Trump wanted him to go along with their plan to steal the election.

Don't pretend that you guys actually care about election integrity. You don't actually care about a party trying to steal an election because if you did you would hate Donald Trump.

 

[DonGlock26]

Yeah, dude, the Dems were rigging the election and were able to leak zero evidence of them doing this.

What your administration and media people have said about the 2020 election and claims that they have made to their audience, aka, you guys, is COMPLETELY different to what they have said when they take it through the legal path. Because they don't have shit. Trump's own people told him there is no evidence. Trump would seek out and only listen to people that would entertain his idea that it was rigged. He decided it was rigged before it even happened.

You guys are willing to believe that Dems somehow rigged this despite no evidence. No evidence that they co-ordinated to do this either. Only conspricacy theories.

But then you all completely ignore the Jan 6th Committee Report that includes a lot of evidence in emails and actual correspondence going over strategies to steal the election. A Jan 6th Committee Report where a lot of witness evidence is from Trump's own people. You have Trump's own former VP on camera basically saying that Trump wanted him to go along with their plan to steal the election.

Don't pretend that you guys actually care about election integrity. You don't actually care about a party trying to steal an election because if you did you would hate Donald Trump.

"FBI has 'substantiated' irregularities in Georgia 2020 vote counts, probing if they were intentional

FBI identified to court in a search warrant five categories of confirmed irregularities in Fulton County voting, unsealed affidavit.

The FBI has "substantiated" some major irregularities in how votes were counted in Georgia's largest urban area in the aftermath of the 2020 election and is probing whether those failures were intentional efforts to violate federal election law, according to a bombshell affidavit unsealed by a federal court on Tuesday.

Evans' affidavit, dated Jan. 28, cited five major areas of irregularities under investigation, including that:

• Fulton County has admitted that it does not have scanned images of all the 528,777 ballots counted during the Original Count or the 527,925 ballots counted during the state's first recount, a major loss of evidence.
• Fulton County has confirmed that during the Recount of votes, some ballots were scanned multiple times. "Ballot images made available in response to public record requests show ballots with unique markings duplicated within the ballot images," the affidavit said.
• During the Risk Limiting Audit, auditors counting the votes by hand reported vote tallies for batches inconsistent with the actual votes within the batch. "The State’s Performance Review Board reported that Secretary of State investigators confirmed inaccurate batch tallies from the Risk Limiting Audit," the affidavit said.
• Auditors assisting in the Risk Limiting Audit reported counting purported absentee ballots that had "never been creased or folded, as would be required for the ballot to be mailed to the voter and for the ballot to be returned in the sealed envelope
  requiring the voter’s signature for authentication."
• On the day of the deadline to report the Recount results, Fulton County reported a recount totaling 511,343 ballots, 17,434 ballots fewer than the original count. "The following day, Fulton County then reported a total of 527,925 ballots counted," the affidavit noted.

You can read the unsealed affidavit below:

File
gov.uscourts.gand_.355087.22.1.pdf "

FBI has 'substantiated' irregularities in Georgia 2020 vote counts, probing if they were intentional​

FBI identified to court in a search warrant five categories of confirmed irregularities in Fulton County voting, unsealed affidavit.
justthenews.com

 

[DonGlock26]

1.st Replace your 3rd world countries voting machines and system, with that of an advanced civilized country.

2.nd If the alleged election fraud proves to be false (which it is) - arrest all MAGA honchos and throw them in prison.
MAGA dolts need to undergo psychotherapy treatment for a minimum of one year. Those below the age of 32 need to repeat high-school, homeschooling will not be allowed.

That should do it, To Make America Great Again.

How about voter ID, paper ballots, and one day voting. The advanced French are able to do it.

 

[westwall]

How about voter ID, paper ballots, and one day voting. The advanced French are able to do it.

Hell, SOMALIA is doing it.

 

[leftwinger]

Harvesting and Muling much? They hit all areas hard in 2020. After all it's about $1T fraud dollars. $1T welfare dollars.//

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[candycorn]

"FBI has 'substantiated' irregularities in Georgia 2020 vote counts, probing if they were intentional

FBI identified to court in a search warrant five categories of confirmed irregularities in Fulton County voting, unsealed affidavit.

The FBI has "substantiated" some major irregularities in how votes were counted in Georgia's largest urban area in the aftermath of the 2020 election and is probing whether those failures were intentional efforts to violate federal election law, according to a bombshell affidavit unsealed by a federal court on Tuesday.

Evans' affidavit, dated Jan. 28, cited five major areas of irregularities under investigation, including that:

• Fulton County has admitted that it does not have scanned images of all the 528,777 ballots counted during the Original Count or the 527,925 ballots counted during the state's first recount, a major loss of evidence.
• Fulton County has confirmed that during the Recount of votes, some ballots were scanned multiple times. "Ballot images made available in response to public record requests show ballots with unique markings duplicated within the ballot images," the affidavit said.
• During the Risk Limiting Audit, auditors counting the votes by hand reported vote tallies for batches inconsistent with the actual votes within the batch. "The State’s Performance Review Board reported that Secretary of State investigators confirmed inaccurate batch tallies from the Risk Limiting Audit," the affidavit said.
• Auditors assisting in the Risk Limiting Audit reported counting purported absentee ballots that had "never been creased or folded, as would be required for the ballot to be mailed to the voter and for the ballot to be returned in the sealed envelope
  requiring the voter’s signature for authentication."
• On the day of the deadline to report the Recount results, Fulton County reported a recount totaling 511,343 ballots, 17,434 ballots fewer than the original count. "The following day, Fulton County then reported a total of 527,925 ballots counted," the affidavit noted.

You can read the unsealed affidavit below:

File
gov.uscourts.gand_.355087.22.1.pdf "

FBI has 'substantiated' irregularities in Georgia 2020 vote counts, probing if they were intentional​

FBI identified to court in a search warrant five categories of confirmed irregularities in Fulton County voting, unsealed affidavit.
justthenews.com

Are affidavits cross examined? Nope.

So all you have is an allegation. Who is this “evans” guy?

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

"FBI has 'substantiated' irregularities in Georgia 2020 vote counts, probing if they were intentional

FBI identified to court in a search warrant five categories of confirmed irregularities in Fulton County voting, unsealed affidavit.

The FBI has "substantiated" some major irregularities in how votes were counted in Georgia's largest urban area in the aftermath of the 2020 election and is probing whether those failures were intentional efforts to violate federal election law, according to a bombshell affidavit unsealed by a federal court on Tuesday.

Evans' affidavit, dated Jan. 28, cited five major areas of irregularities under investigation, including that:

• Fulton County has admitted that it does not have scanned images of all the 528,777 ballots counted during the Original Count or the 527,925 ballots counted during the state's first recount, a major loss of evidence.
• Fulton County has confirmed that during the Recount of votes, some ballots were scanned multiple times. "Ballot images made available in response to public record requests show ballots with unique markings duplicated within the ballot images," the affidavit said.
• During the Risk Limiting Audit, auditors counting the votes by hand reported vote tallies for batches inconsistent with the actual votes within the batch. "The State’s Performance Review Board reported that Secretary of State investigators confirmed inaccurate batch tallies from the Risk Limiting Audit," the affidavit said.
• Auditors assisting in the Risk Limiting Audit reported counting purported absentee ballots that had "never been creased or folded, as would be required for the ballot to be mailed to the voter and for the ballot to be returned in the sealed envelope
  requiring the voter’s signature for authentication."
• On the day of the deadline to report the Recount results, Fulton County reported a recount totaling 511,343 ballots, 17,434 ballots fewer than the original count. "The following day, Fulton County then reported a total of 527,925 ballots counted," the affidavit noted.

You can read the unsealed affidavit below:

File
gov.uscourts.gand_.355087.22.1.pdf "

FBI has 'substantiated' irregularities in Georgia 2020 vote counts, probing if they were intentional​

FBI identified to court in a search warrant five categories of confirmed irregularities in Fulton County voting, unsealed affidavit.
justthenews.com

The affidavit is simply recycling the same debunked claims from the first time they raised this issue. It has already been investigated by Georgia's Secretary of State office, under REBPUBLICAN Brad Raffensperger. So your own Republicans are in on the conspiracy with the Democrats now to have stolen the election? Raffensperger is a life long republican, voted for Trump and contributed to his campaign. None of this is based on logic, it's based on the Trump administration treating their supporter base like they are complete fools that will tow the line.

Here is a video with some of the phone call between Trump and Raffensperger, and also has interviews with Raffensperger and Gabriel Sterling (both Republican Trump voters), and goes over some of the debunked claims.


So all the things that this affidavit mentions have already been investigated and debunked. All nine legal challenges by Trump and allies in Georgia were dropped, denied, or dismissed by courts.

Georgia's 2020 votes were countered three separate times, all confirming the same result. Republican officials who resisted Trump have consistently stated there was no fraud.

Gabriel Sterling (Operating Officer for Secretary of State) (Also a Republican and Trump voter) in response to the question asking him how he would describe the President's claims of vote fraud in Georgia: "Fantastical, unreasonable, lacking in any factual reality."
Sterling on the topic of a video that Trump's team released that was supposed to show something suspicious. Sterling said that President Trump's team had always had the entire unedited video (which shows there is nothing suspicious going on), but they only released a selectively edited version of the video: "From my point of view, they intentionally misled the state senators, the people of Georgia, and the people of the United States about this to cause this conspiracy theory to keep going and keep the disinformation going which has caused this environment that we are seeing today."

Trump in the phone call to Raffensperger: "It's more illegal for you than it is for them. Because you know what they did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal, that's a criminal offense. And you know you can't let that happen. That's a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer, and that's a big risk." Trump is such a piece of shit.

You know what I think about this whole affidavit? I think they are just going to try and get something tweet-worthy out of it. There is no intention to actually expose fraud because they know it doesn't exist, but they can use this to make some cherrypicked claim that they can then use to once again strengthen the conviction of their supporter base to undemocratic values. That's the goal here.

And in their other more general claims of mass voter fraud, when they've actually gone to Court, their legal filings have been very different to what they have been saying via the media:

• Many lawsuits didn't actually allege fraud at all, but rather focused on procedural issues (signature matching rules, observer access, etc.)
• When judges directly asked lawyers if they were alleging fraud, they often said "no" or backed away from such claims
• Evidence presented was frequently much thinner than suggested publicly

Notable examples:

• In Pennsylvania, Trump campaign lawyer admitted in court they weren't alleging fraud
• Rudy Giuliani's law license was suspended partly for making "demonstrably false" statements about the election
• Fox News paid $787.5 million to settle Dominion's defamation lawsuit, with internal messages showing hosts didn't believe fraud claims they aired
• Multiple Trump attorneys faced sanctions or disciplinary proceedings for election-related filings

Why do you think they were much less confident of their claims when in court? It's because they don't want to commit things like Perjury. They can lie to you guys without consequences, but it's different in courts.

I haven't even gone into all of the batshit insane things from the Jan 6th Committee Report that are loaded with testimonies from Trump's own allies and from Republicans in general. If you're not aware of what they were attempting:
What Trump and Co conspired was to send an alternative set of electors in the key swing states. These alternative electors were to then submit illegitimate and fraudulent electoral college votes for Trump. These individuals convened on December 14, 2020, the same day as the legitimate electors, and signed documents falsely declaring themselves the rightful electors for their states and casting electoral votes for Trump.. This was one part of a nefarious and intentional plot to try and steal an election. It was an attack on democracy, and is unprecedented.

The idea was to create confusion and uncertainty about the legitimacy of the Electoral college results and then Pence could either reject the official electoral slates for Joe Biden or recognize the alternate slates submitted by Trump’s allies. Ultimately, Pence rejected this strategy, stating that he did not have the constitutional authority to change the outcome of the election or choose which electors to accept.

This is what Trump was talking about when he said that 'Pence could do the right thing":
Trump: "I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election."

Ridiculous shit. And thousands times more evidence exists for this than any mass voter fraud.

 

[DonGlock26]

Are affidavits cross examined? Nope.

So all you have is an allegation. Who is this “evans” guy?

We'll see cross exams in court.

 

[DonGlock26]

The affidavit is simply recycling the same debunked claims from the first time they raised this issue. It has already been investigated by Georgia's Secretary of State office, under REBPUBLICAN Brad Raffensperger. So your own Republicans are in on the conspiracy with the Democrats now to have stolen the election? Raffensperger is a life long republican, voted for Trump and contributed to his campaign. None of this is based on logic, it's based on the Trump administration treating their supporter base like they are complete fools that will tow the line.

Here is a video with some of the phone call between Trump and Raffensperger, and also has interviews with Raffensperger and Gabriel Sterling (both Republican Trump voters), and goes over some of the debunked claims.


So all the things that this affidavit mentions have already been investigated and debunked. All nine legal challenges by Trump and allies in Georgia were dropped, denied, or dismissed by courts.

Georgia's 2020 votes were countered three separate times, all confirming the same result. Republican officials who resisted Trump have consistently stated there was no fraud.

Gabriel Sterling (Operating Officer for Secretary of State) (Also a Republican and Trump voter) in response to the question asking him how he would describe the President's claims of vote fraud in Georgia: "Fantastical, unreasonable, lacking in any factual reality."
Sterling on the topic of a video that Trump's team released that was supposed to show something suspicious. Sterling said that President Trump's team had always had the entire unedited video (which shows there is nothing suspicious going on), but they only released a selectively edited version of the video: "From my point of view, they intentionally misled the state senators, the people of Georgia, and the people of the United States about this to cause this conspiracy theory to keep going and keep the disinformation going which has caused this environment that we are seeing today."

Trump in the phone call to Raffensperger: "It's more illegal for you than it is for them. Because you know what they did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal, that's a criminal offense. And you know you can't let that happen. That's a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer, and that's a big risk." Trump is such a piece of shit.

You know what I think about this whole affidavit? I think they are just going to try and get something tweet-worthy out of it. There is no intention to actually expose fraud because they know it doesn't exist, but they can use this to make some cherrypicked claim that they can then use to once again strengthen the conviction of their supporter base to undemocratic values. That's the goal here.

And in their other more general claims of mass voter fraud, when they've actually gone to Court, their legal filings have been very different to what they have been saying via the media:

• Many lawsuits didn't actually allege fraud at all, but rather focused on procedural issues (signature matching rules, observer access, etc.)
• When judges directly asked lawyers if they were alleging fraud, they often said "no" or backed away from such claims
• Evidence presented was frequently much thinner than suggested publicly

Notable examples:

• In Pennsylvania, Trump campaign lawyer admitted in court they weren't alleging fraud
• Rudy Giuliani's law license was suspended partly for making "demonstrably false" statements about the election
• Fox News paid $787.5 million to settle Dominion's defamation lawsuit, with internal messages showing hosts didn't believe fraud claims they aired
• Multiple Trump attorneys faced sanctions or disciplinary proceedings for election-related filings

Why do you think they were much less confident of their claims when in court? It's because they don't want to commit things like Perjury. They can lie to you guys without consequences, but it's different in courts.

I haven't even gone into all of the batshit insane things from the Jan 6th Committee Report that are loaded with testimonies from Trump's own allies and from Republicans in general. If you're not aware of what they were attempting:
What Trump and Co conspired was to send an alternative set of electors in the key swing states. These alternative electors were to then submit illegitimate and fraudulent electoral college votes for Trump. These individuals convened on December 14, 2020, the same day as the legitimate electors, and signed documents falsely declaring themselves the rightful electors for their states and casting electoral votes for Trump.. This was one part of a nefarious and intentional plot to try and steal an election. It was an attack on democracy, and is unprecedented.

The idea was to create confusion and uncertainty about the legitimacy of the Electoral college results and then Pence could either reject the official electoral slates for Joe Biden or recognize the alternate slates submitted by Trump’s allies. Ultimately, Pence rejected this strategy, stating that he did not have the constitutional authority to change the outcome of the election or choose which electors to accept.

This is what Trump was talking about when he said that 'Pence could do the right thing":
Trump: "I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election."

Ridiculous shit. And thousands times more evidence exists for this than any mass voter fraud.

We'll see how things go for the Dems and Rinos at trial.

 

[candycorn]

We'll see cross exams in court.

Again, who is this “Evans”?

You think you’re actually making it to court this time?

 

[DonGlock26]

Again, who is this “Evans”?

Who are you referring to? The FBI agent?

 

[candycorn]

Who are you referring to?

The guy who gave the affidavit...

Evans' affidavit, dated Jan. 28, cited five major areas of irregularities under investigation, including that:

Who is “Evans”..what is their background?