Evolution question.

[Hollie]

And what has been the result of that teaching?

Education.

 

[Woodznutz]

According to you… not evolution

Evolution is quite dispassionate.

 

[Woodznutz]

Education.

They believe what they were taught, they don't really understand it, so it's really more indoctrination than education.

Education suggests conveying something understandable and useful.

 

[Slade3200]

Evolution is quite dispassionate.

Agreed

 

[Hollie]

They believe what they were taught, they don't really understand it, so it's really more indoctrination than education.

Education suggests conveying something understandable and useful.

Biological evolution is a fundamental component of medical science.

That's pretty useful and understandable.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If the cornerstone of evolution is the extinction of species with 'undesirable traits' why do we go out of our way to save people who have these traits?

Because we are not worried about survival of the species, we are worried about the well being of sentient humans.

 

[braalian]

70-80 years. Quite reasonable.

When they say life expectancy back then was only 30 or so, that’s because infant mortality was so high. If you survived past childhood you had a reasonable chance to make to 60 or 70.

I thought you were talking about how the Old Testament said people lived to be 150 or something

 

[cnm]

Not in case of Mother Mary. Mary was without sin.

Oh. So, the bible contradicts itself openly? You know, that 'all men are sinners' bit?

TIL

 

[Woodznutz]

Because we are not worried about survival of the species, we are worried about the well-being of sentient humans.

Based on the current state of our "well-being" we're not doing so well.

 

[cnm]

Because we are not worried about survival of the species, we are worried about the well being of sentient humans.

Based on the current state of our "well-being" we're not doing so well.

I suggest our darker skinned brethren will prove to be more fit for what's coming.

 

[Woodznutz]

When they say life expectancy back then was only 30 or so, that’s because infant mortality was so high. If you survived past childhood you had a reasonable chance to make to 60 or 70.

I thought you were talking about how the Old Testament said people lived to be 150 or something

Psalm 90:10
The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

"The Psalms were written over a time frame of about a 1000 years. Most of the Psalms were written between 1010 and 930 BC during the time of David and his son Solomon. The oldest psalm, Psalm 90, was written by Moses in approximately 1500 BC. The book was probably compiled and edited into its present form during the post-exilic period in the 5th century BC. "

 

[Woodznutz]

Biological evolution is a fundamental component of medical science.

That's pretty useful and understandable.

Dealing with illness maybe, but not health. Actual health is anathema to the healthcare industrial complex.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Based on the current state of our "well-being" we're not doing so well.

Much better than when we relied on useless religions for everything.

 

[Woodznutz]

Much better than when we relied on useless religions for everything.

I don't think that was ever the case. Religion has proven to be very beneficial, at least in the Christian west. Also, it's a subjective appraisal. Some squirm under religious restrictions and many leave the church, others take to them like a duck takes to water.

True science and religion work well together. Science identifies problems, religion compels us to do something about them. Clearly evident is that we need more religion so we can solve these problems.

 

[scruffy]

Scientists believe the building blocks of matter 'came into existence' with the "big bang". That tells us nothing.

Scientists believe no such thing.

No scientist would use those words.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Religion has proven to be very beneficial, at least in the Christian west.

Western culture is good thanks to superior, SECULAR ideas, like classical liberalism and secular government.

Western culture rose up out of the muck quite in spite of Christianity.

 

[alang1216]

Yes, we are still evolving. If you actually read about evolution from evolutionists then you should know what the definition of evolution is in biology.

So what selection pressures are still operating on humans?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So what selection pressures are still operating on humans?

All of them.

Natural selection continues to operate as it always did. We just fight back against it with science-based medicine and technology.

 

[Woodznutz]

Scientists believe no such thing.

No scientist would use those words.

Scientists use other writers to parse their theories in language that we novices can understand, thus "those words".

 

[Woodznutz]

Western culture is good thanks to superior, SECULAR ideas, like classical liberalism and secular government.

Western culture rose up out of the muck quite in spite of Christianity.

Liberal, secular people have some catching up to do regarding happiness and longevity.