Zone1 Evidence of the Hebrew Exodus

[TNHarley]

It makes me sad that you feel that way.

What, that they are right?

 

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No shit. And yet, they have documents with failure and tragedy. Like the ipuwer papyrus.

Great. Show some examples of ancient Egyptians documenting their defeats.

 

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What, that they are right?

That's hilarious coming from you.

 

[TNHarley]

Great. Show some examples of ancient Egyptians documenting their defeats.

The document I already cited is filled with many tragedies and failures.
There are also laments about the destruction of memphis.

 

[TNHarley]

That's hilarious coming from you.

They are, gaslighter.

 

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The document I already cited is filled with many tragedies and failures.
There are also laments about the destruction of memphis.

And yet when one googles, "did ancient Egyptians document their defeats?" this is what they get:

No, ancient Egyptians generally did not document their military defeats, focusing instead on glorious victories for propaganda, but some defeats are known from other sources, like neighboring accounts or archaeological evidence, and some internal records might subtly hint at struggles, though explicit admissions of major losses were rare, with a famous counter-example being the Nubian Piye's stela detailing his conquest of Egypt.

Why Defeats Were Usually Omitted

• Propaganda: Royal inscriptions served to glorify the Pharaoh as a divine, invincible ruler, so defeats undermined this image.
• Public Image: Records on temple walls and monuments aimed to maintain a positive relationship with the gods and people, not broadcast failures.
• Minimization: Losses were often ignored, twisted to seem like victories, or simply left out of official histories.

Examples & Nuances

• The Hyksos: While not a typical defeat, the expulsion of the Hyksos involved the deliberate destruction of their monuments and inscriptions by the New Kingdom Egyptians.
• Internal Records: While monumental inscriptions avoided defeat, other forms of writing, like private letters or administrative documents, might have contained more candid, though less public, information.
• Piye's Victory Stela: This Nubian king's inscription details his conquest of Egypt, including battles where Egyptians lost badly, showing that defeats could be recorded by a conqueror.

In essence, if it didn't serve the Pharaoh's divine image or the state's power narrative, it was unlikely to be carved in stone, leading to significant gaps in Egyptian historical accounts of setbacks.

 

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They are, gaslighter.

You don't admit your defeats anymore than ancient Egyptians did.

Why don't you create some more gas lighting threads and I'll show you how it's done.

 

[TNHarley]

And yet when one googles, "did ancient Egyptians document their defeats?" this is what they get:

No, ancient Egyptians generally did not document their military defeats, focusing instead on glorious victories for propaganda, but some defeats are known from other sources, like neighboring accounts or archaeological evidence, and some internal records might subtly hint at struggles, though explicit admissions of major losses were rare, with a famous counter-example being the Nubian Piye's stela detailing his conquest of Egypt.

Why Defeats Were Usually Omitted

• Propaganda: Royal inscriptions served to glorify the Pharaoh as a divine, invincible ruler, so defeats undermined this image.
• Public Image: Records on temple walls and monuments aimed to maintain a positive relationship with the gods and people, not broadcast failures.
• Minimization: Losses were often ignored, twisted to seem like victories, or simply left out of official histories.

Examples & Nuances

• The Hyksos: While not a typical defeat, the expulsion of the Hyksos involved the deliberate destruction of their monuments and inscriptions by the New Kingdom Egyptians.
• Internal Records: While monumental inscriptions avoided defeat, other forms of writing, like private letters or administrative documents, might have contained more candid, though less public, information.
• Piye's Victory Stela: This Nubian king's inscription details his conquest of Egypt, including battles where Egyptians lost badly, showing that defeats could be recorded by a conqueror.

In essence, if it didn't serve the Pharaoh's divine image or the state's power narrative, it was unlikely to be carved in stone, leading to significant gaps in Egyptian historical accounts of setbacks.

Does google wipe your azz too? Good grief.

 

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Does google wipe your azz too? Good grief.

No. It's just is helpful in wiping away the shit of others.

But your post was a great example of you dismissing your defeats like the ancient Egyptians did.

 

[Quantrill]

It belongs in the rubber room.

I already know about that shit stain. I'm asking you if that shit stain is your hero. Which you still haven't addressed.

You have the opportunity to display all that knowledge you have in the new post called 'William Clarke Quantrill'. You brought 'Quantrill' up. Let's see you support it.

You brought it up, the thread is available. Only a coward and liar would refuse.

I have plenty of respect for Quantrill. Else why would I use him as my 'user name'. Look forward to your participation in the new thread...if you got the balls. Might steer you in the right direction.

Quantrill

 

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You have the opportunity to display all that knowledge you have in the new post called 'William Clarke Quantrill'. You brought 'Quantrill' up. Let's see you support it.

You brought it up, the thread is available. Only a coward and liar would refuse.

I have plenty of respect for Quantrill. Else why would I use him as my 'user name'. Look forward to your participation in the new thread...if you got the balls. Might steer you in the right direction.

Quantrill

So glad you admitted to using his name as your moniker and that you admire him. He was a racist piece of shit coward.

 

[The Duke]

And yet when one googles, "did ancient Egyptians document their defeats?" this is what they get:

No, ancient Egyptians generally did not document their military defeats, focusing instead on glorious victories for propaganda, but some defeats are known from other sources, like neighboring accounts or archaeological evidence, and some internal records might subtly hint at struggles, though explicit admissions of major losses were rare, with a famous counter-example being the Nubian Piye's stela detailing his conquest of Egypt.

Why Defeats Were Usually Omitted

• Propaganda: Royal inscriptions served to glorify the Pharaoh as a divine, invincible ruler, so defeats undermined this image.
• Public Image: Records on temple walls and monuments aimed to maintain a positive relationship with the gods and people, not broadcast failures.
• Minimization: Losses were often ignored, twisted to seem like victories, or simply left out of official histories.

Examples & Nuances

• The Hyksos: While not a typical defeat, the expulsion of the Hyksos involved the deliberate destruction of their monuments and inscriptions by the New Kingdom Egyptians.
• Internal Records: While monumental inscriptions avoided defeat, other forms of writing, like private letters or administrative documents, might have contained more candid, though less public, information.
• Piye's Victory Stela: This Nubian king's inscription details his conquest of Egypt, including battles where Egyptians lost badly, showing that defeats could be recorded by a conqueror.

In essence, if it didn't serve the Pharaoh's divine image or the state's power narrative, it was unlikely to be carved in stone, leading to significant gaps in Egyptian historical accounts of setbacks.

ding, using AI responses..eh...
Those things are GIGO.

 

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ding, using AI responses..eh...
Those things are GIGO.

Not always. I don't accept anything blindly. I question everything. The thing you need to realize is that I'm not shooting from the hip. My beliefs are based upon good reasons. So it is much more convenient to use AI to support what I already know. So I especially use AI when I am dealing with idiots who are unreasonable. I'm not going to waste a lot of my time on them. I prefer to skip the fighting and go straight to winning. A bee doesn't spend much time trying to convince a fly that honey tastes better than shit.

 

[The Duke]

Not always. I don't accept anything blindly. I question everything. The thing you need to realize is that I'm not shooting from the hip. My beliefs are based upon good reasons. So it is much more convenient to use AI to support what I already know. So I especially use AI when I am dealing with idiots who are unreasonable. I'm not going to waste a lot of my time on them. I prefer to skip the fighting and go straight to winning. A bee doesn't spend much time trying to convince a fly that honey tastes better than shit.