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Everything's been tried. It's time to pack up and come home.

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Bush and the Republican's disastrous foray into the Middle East needs to come to a close. They don't hate us for our freedom. They don't want our government. They want us gone.

The Iraq war destabilized the entire Middle East. It didn't work. It didn't ALMOST work. It was never close to working.

I understand why the GOP did what it did. They were simply tired of failure and were as sure that bringing democracy to the Middle East would work as they were sure that Obama would lose the last election. Sometimes, you need more than imagination. I suspect if they knew anything about the Middle East before the invasion, they wouldn't have invaded. But that's what happens when you think learning is for snobs.

But it's water under the bridge. I think the last best hope was when Obama put together a coalition of other Middle Eastern Countries to fight Isis. Something Bush never did.
So did it work? Nope. Instead of attacking Isis, they attacked each other. At least he tried with something sensible and logical. A coalition like Bush's that included a dozen people from half a dozen Caribbean countries was an insult to intelligent people.

It's time to pack up and come home. Leave them alone. Let them figure out what they want. And when the winners emerge, we can deal with them. Until then, no more Americans should go to the Middle East. And looking at Obama's current strategy, it looks like he probably agrees.
 

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If you are willing to stand by as the Arab world descends into a new holocaust, okay then.
 

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Yeah right. It was Bush's Iraq war that was the problem. It had nothing to do with Clinton or Obama and the Arab Spring at all no no.

All Bush's fault. Despite the fact that the democrats supported it. It's Bush's fault.
 

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Funny they said the same thing when America chose isolationism post WW1 , unfortunately the aftermath resulted in WWII.
One fact remains unanswered, how will you respond, contain, and deter terrorists acts against this country and the free world? You are aware that terrorist acts did occur well before Desert Storm? Radical Islam and their Jihad are directed toward the free world and freedom from oppression right? So bury your head in the sand will accomplish what? Most importantly who will pay the price for such naive conduct. History repeats itself, apparently there are those that wish to repeat the mistakes of the past.
 

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Ok, here's my plan.
Ya know how folks in Texas are always talking about seceding? So, if they don't want to be a part of the U.S., then why don't we just give Texas to Israel? Israel gets a safe homeland without neighbors who are hell-bent on their destruction, Texans don't have to be part of the U.S. anymore, and illegal immigration from Mexico would not be a problem. If there is anything the Israelis are great at - it's holding a border. Win-Win-Win
 
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Funny they said the same thing when America chose isolationism post WW1 , unfortunately the aftermath resulted in WWII.
One fact remains unanswered, how will you respond, contain, and deter terrorists acts against this country and the free world? You are aware that terrorist acts did occur well before Desert Storm? Radical Islam and their Jihad are directed toward the free world and freedom from oppression right? So bury your head in the sand will accomplish what? Most importantly who will pay the price for such naive conduct. History repeats itself, apparently there are those that wish to repeat the mistakes of the past.
Yea, it's America's fault that Hitler came to power.
How stupid that is.
It wasn't isolationism that caused Hitler's rise. It was what the Allies did or didn't do after WWI that caused Hitler's rise.
 
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Yeah right. It was Bush's Iraq war that was the problem. It had nothing to do with Clinton or Obama and the Arab Spring at all no no.

All Bush's fault. Despite the fact that the democrats supported it. It's Bush's fault.
Clinton didn't invade. Bush did. And he did it with threats like "You (meaning Americans) are with us or with the terrorists". After 9/11, is it any wonder some Democrats supported him? Quit trying to spread the blame. Iraq was all Republican. Started by the Republicans. Screwed up by the Republicans. Remember "Mission Accomplished"? They took ALL the credit until they realized there was no credit. Then they unsuccessfully tried to shift the blame.
 

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Bush and the Republican's disastrous foray into the Middle East needs to come to a close. They don't hate us for our freedom. They don't want our government. They want us gone.

The Iraq war destabilized the entire Middle East. It didn't work. It didn't ALMOST work. It was never close to working.

I understand why the GOP did what it did. They were simply tired of failure and were as sure that bringing democracy to the Middle East would work as they were sure that Obama would lose the last election. Sometimes, you need more than imagination. I suspect if they knew anything about the Middle East before the invasion, they wouldn't have invaded. But that's what happens when you think learning is for snobs.

But it's water under the bridge. I think the last best hope was when Obama put together a coalition of other Middle Eastern Countries to fight Isis. Something Bush never did.
So did it work? Nope. Instead of attacking Isis, they attacked each other. At least he tried with something sensible and logical. A coalition like Bush's that included a dozen people from half a dozen Caribbean countries was an insult to intelligent people.

It's time to pack up and come home. Leave them alone. Let them figure out what they want. And when the winners emerge, we can deal with them. Until then, no more Americans should go to the Middle East. And looking at Obama's current strategy, it looks like he probably agrees.
Everything has not been tried. Extermination of the enemy without regard to roe....try that.
 

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If you are willing to stand by as the Arab world descends into a new holocaust, okay then.
Worst thing we ever did was help end the Iran/Iraq War.

Let them fight each other to the last stone.
 

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If you are willing to stand by as the Arab world descends into a new holocaust, okay then.
that's the best thing that could happen...
start from scratch..
 

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Anti-war liberals don't have the stones to confront evil, I'm shocked /sarcasm
 

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If you are willing to stand by as the Arab world descends into a new holocaust, okay then.
that's the best thing that could happen...
start from scratch..
As long as the holocaust is contained within muslim borders...as is happening in Syria and Iraq as Obabble stands with dick in hand...all the while proclaiming that Islamic terror poses no systemic threat to the U.S....as he stands with his Dick in his hand while iran develops nuke weapons capability.
 

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If you are willing to stand by as the Arab world descends into a new holocaust, okay then.
that's the best thing that could happen...
start from scratch..
As long as the holocaust is contained within muslim borders...as is happening in Syria and Iraq as Obabble stands with dick in hand...all the while proclaiming that Islamic terror poses no systemic threat to the U.S....as he stands with his Dick in his hand while iran develops nuke weapons capability.
right ....
we have nukes, so why can't they?
 

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Yea, it's America's fault that Hitler came to power.
How stupid that is.
It wasn't isolationism that caused Hitler's rise. It was what the Allies did or didn't do after WWI that caused Hitler's rise.

Six-syllable words are obviously beyond your comprehension.
 

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^ The Iraq Obama inherited from Bush

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^ The Iraq Obama handed to ISIS

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If you are willing to stand by as the Arab world descends into a new holocaust, okay then.
that's the best thing that could happen...
start from scratch..
As long as the holocaust is contained within muslim borders...as is happening in Syria and Iraq as Obabble stands with dick in hand...all the while proclaiming that Islamic terror poses no systemic threat to the U.S....as he stands with his Dick in his hand while iran develops nuke weapons capability.
right ....
we have nukes, so why can't they?
They can...and then we can and should nuke the shit out of them.
 

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Yea, it's America's fault that Hitler came to power.
How stupid that is.
It wasn't isolationism that caused Hitler's rise. It was what the Allies did or didn't do after WWI that caused Hitler's rise.

Six-syllable words are obviously beyond your comprehension.
yours too....
 

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