Everyone is dancing around the truth in the Sandra Bland arrest. What happened is obvious.

[HereWeGoAgain]

Spend a lot of time in Prairie View do you?
Obviously not..that area is known to be heavily patrolled and they hand out tickets to everyone.
Stop flapping your lips about shit you know nothing about.

Oh, that makes it okay, then, handing out "Driving While Black" tickets....

Right.

And here you are,still flapping your lips about something you know nothing about.
They hand out tickets to everyone.

 

[Skull Pilot]

He did not violate any of her rights before he lost it.

And even after it's not so clear. She did after all refuse 2 lawful orders that any attorney would tell you were perfectly legal.

If a cop asked you to step out of your car and you refused you would be dragged out too.

Yes he lied on the report and that's certainly cause for dismissal

But since you refuse to watch the entire video and stick to your assumption filled diatribe I'm going to stop wasting my time with you

Hey, guy, she wasn't arrested for "refusing to obey a lawful order."

She was arrested for assaulting a police officer. Almost no one is still claiming she assaulted Storm-Trooper Encino.

Probably because you have two videotapes of the incident.

I never said why she was arrested did I?

I never said she assaulted him did I?

I am trying to look at the entire incident

You aren't

She was arrested because this Encino asshole is a fucking rednecked asshole who hates blacks.

Prove it

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

He did not violate any of her rights before he lost it.

And even after it's not so clear. She did after all refuse 2 lawful orders that any attorney would tell you were perfectly legal.

If a cop asked you to step out of your car and you refused you would be dragged out too.

Yes he lied on the report and that's certainly cause for dismissal

But since you refuse to watch the entire video and stick to your assumption filled diatribe I'm going to stop wasting my time with you

Hey, guy, she wasn't arrested for "refusing to obey a lawful order."

She was arrested for assaulting a police officer. Almost no one is still claiming she assaulted Storm-Trooper Encino.

Probably because you have two videotapes of the incident.

I never said why she was arrested did I?

I never said she assaulted him did I?

I am trying to look at the entire incident

You aren't

She was arrested because this Encino asshole is a fucking rednecked asshole who hates blacks.

Than why was he giving her a warning?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You have an articulate and good looking black woman who probably came from up north some where and you have a very red neck white officer with that hickey kind of country accent. He's probably spent his entire life within 10 miles of where that incident took place. I bet he has a half dozen confederate T shirts.

For some reason, and you can see it here on the USMB, conservatives and right wingers believe you should just give up every right you have and instantly jump at what a police officer says, no matter the circumstances, or you get what you deserve. Especially if you are black, Hispanic, gay or some other minority. It's an example of the ultimate police state.

So he stops her for not using her turn signal. Of course she should use her turn signal, that's what it's there for. He should have just given her a ticket or a warning. And if it was some other white with that hickey accent, you know he would have only given a verbal warning if he had bothered to stop them.

And I'll tell you something else. I have relatives in the deep south that I spent some vacations and a couple of summers with growing up. I speak perfect "Yawl (or as some USMB members insist, "ya'll"), and I have been stopped because my license is from out of state and I just start talking Yawl and they suddenly talk very nice and have never given me a ticket.

Clearly that officer provoked her and escalated the situation with "put out your cigarette" and "step out of the car" and arresting her. It wasn't that he wanted her respect. He wanted her to cower and shuffle and she wasn't having it. So in his tiny and racist little mind, he was teaching her a lesson and it was within his right to teach her that lesson no matter what the actual law said because of who he was, the uniform he was wearing and who she was. In that part of the country, it's the "natural order" of things.

You were wrong about Zimmerman, wrong about Brown, and pretty much wrong about everything you post. This mess is some of the most ignorant and wrong garbage that you've ever posted. I don't know how you manage to one-up your stupidity every time. It's actually fascinating.

I lived in Houston for 12 years. Hempstead is a little bedroom community just outside Houston.

The way that pig treated Sandra Bland is the NORM, not an exception. I was harassed by police on a few occasions myself, for the reasons that RDean lists, even though I am white and spoke "YAWL" pretty good myself.

1. I had a motorcycle cop stop me for taking the "wrong lane" out of the downtown post office when it was my first trip into the city after moving there just days before. I still had PA plates and license. He threatened to arrest me because I had a "bad attitude" when I expressed irritation when he suggested I was lying about being in town just a few days.

2. A Houston cop on duty IN HIS SQUAD CAR parked at a 7-11 stuck his head out the window and made sucking noises at me as I was walking into the store. When I turned and glared at him he just gave me a good old Texas shit-eating grin. If I had tried to take his badge number I would have opened up a world of pain for myself.

3. A Texas state highway policeman stopped me for speeding when I was trying to get away from a truck that was driving erratically all over I-10. He claimed he didn't see the truck that was weaving in and around traffic which was also the same time he claimed he saw me speeding.

What these three incidents have in common is that I am NOT a rednecked, white male in a pickup truck. Period, the end.

So are you black? No?
Than you just made the case that race had nothing to do with Blands arrest.

 

[PredFan]

And if anyone really insists that Sandra Bland's arrest was in line with professional police standards, then take this video and smoke it. Texas highway police conducting body cavity searches on women drivers ON THE ROADSIDE.

These female officers who were bullied into this illegal act should file a complaint or quit their jobs. These women later filed a law suit:

How does an entirely different arrest with a different cop and perp have anything to do with Bland. It doesn't, you're just an idiot.

 

[PredFan]

You have an articulate and good looking black woman who probably came from up north some where and you have a very red neck white officer with that hickey kind of country accent. He's probably spent his entire life within 10 miles of where that incident took place. I bet he has a half dozen confederate T shirts.

For some reason, and you can see it here on the USMB, conservatives and right wingers believe you should just give up every right you have and instantly jump at what a police officer says, no matter the circumstances, or you get what you deserve. Especially if you are black, Hispanic, gay or some other minority. It's an example of the ultimate police state.

So he stops her for not using her turn signal. Of course she should use her turn signal, that's what it's there for. He should have just given her a ticket or a warning. And if it was some other white with that hickey accent, you know he would have only given a verbal warning if he had bothered to stop them.

And I'll tell you something else. I have relatives in the deep south that I spent some vacations and a couple of summers with growing up. I speak perfect "Yawl (or as some USMB members insist, "ya'll"), and I have been stopped because my license is from out of state and I just start talking Yawl and they suddenly talk very nice and have never given me a ticket.

Clearly that officer provoked her and escalated the situation with "put out your cigarette" and "step out of the car" and arresting her. It wasn't that he wanted her respect. He wanted her to cower and shuffle and she wasn't having it. So in his tiny and racist little mind, he was teaching her a lesson and it was within his right to teach her that lesson no matter what the actual law said because of who he was, the uniform he was wearing and who she was. In that part of the country, it's the "natural order" of things.

You were wrong about Zimmerman, wrong about Brown, and pretty much wrong about everything you post. This mess is some of the most ignorant and wrong garbage that you've ever posted. I don't know how you manage to one-up your stupidity every time. It's actually fascinating.

I lived in Houston for 12 years. Hempstead is a little bedroom community just outside Houston.

The way that pig treated Sandra Bland is the NORM, not an exception. I was harassed by police on a few occasions myself, for the reasons that RDean lists, even though I am white and spoke "YAWL" pretty good myself.

1. I had a motorcycle cop stop me for taking the "wrong lane" out of the downtown post office when it was my first trip into the city after moving there just days before. I still had PA plates and license. He threatened to arrest me because I had a "bad attitude" when I expressed irritation when he suggested I was lying about being in town just a few days.

2. A Houston cop on duty IN HIS SQUAD CAR parked at a 7-11 stuck his head out the window and made sucking noises at me as I was walking into the store. When I turned and glared at him he just gave me a good old Texas shit-eating grin. If I had tried to take his badge number I would have opened up a world of pain for myself.

3. A Texas state highway policeman stopped me for speeding when I was trying to get away from a truck that was driving erratically all over I-10. He claimed he didn't see the truck that was weaving in and around traffic which was also the same time he claimed he saw me speeding.

What these three incidents have in common is that I am NOT a rednecked, white male in a pickup truck. Period, the end.

Your experiences are likely as biased and full of shit as hers. I'll be so happy to see your crying lying bull shit backed by extreme butthurt when the cop is exonerated. Dumbass.

 

[Oldstyle]

Joe's problem is that he starts from the automatic assumption that the Texas State Trooper has to be a racist (because Joe assumes that all white police officers are racists!) who only stopped Sandra Bland because she was black.

The problem with that assumption is that it makes absolutely no sense for the trooper to have written Bland a warning rather than a citation (which one would assume he would do if he really WAS a racist!).

Yeah why would I be not inclined to take the police's side of hte story. I mean besides the evidence on the video tape where Encino loses his shit and clear evidence he LIED ON HIS REPORT TO HIS SUPERIOR!

Yeah, well you have...

Eric Garner
Mike Brown
Tamir Rice
That Pool Party at McKinney

You know, a whole bunch of cases where the police killed or brutalized black people over minor offenses....

So who are these two people? What were their mindsets leading up to the confrontation? Were there any contributing factors involved?

You've got Trooper Brian Encinia on one side of this conflict. So what do we know about him? He is listed in the Texas voter records as being of Hispanic descent. He's a new trooper, only having been off probation in June of this year. He came into the State Troopers after having been a Chief in the local volunteer Fire Department and a supervisor at Blue Bell Ice Cream. In an evaluation of his work in September and October 2014, a supervisor noted Encinia had received "written counseling for unprofessional conduct ... for an incident occurring while at a school in Austin," the AP said, adding that the document provided no additional information. Otherwise Encinia's trooper evaluations were all positive.

Well, what do we know about Storm-Trooper Encinio?

Well, we've got him on tape threatening to LIGHT YOU UP! with a Taser. We have evidence he lied to his superior that he tried to de-escalate the situation when in fact he illegall prolonged the stop and then escalated the conflict. He claimed that the woman hit him when in fact you have two tapes of the incident that shows she didn't.

On the other side, you've got Sandra Bland. What do we know about her? Well we know that her autopsy showed rather high levels of THC in her system even though she'd been sitting in jail for three days. One can only assume that she wasn't getting high IN the jail so one has to assume that Sandra was stoned BEFORE she ended up there. She was also taking a prescription medication for epilepsy that had a possible side effect of aggressive behavior. A further look into Bland's history shows that she had at least 10 encounters herself with police in both Illinois and Texas in past years. At the time of her death she still owed a total of $7,579.00 in court fines resulting from five traffic stops in various Chicago suburbs (including a DUI), and she had been cited several times for her failure to pay those fines.

OH MY GOD THE DARKIE WAS SMOKING POT!!!!!

That's like the go-to for racists, isn't it? The Darkie was smoking pot. I think I recall you guys using this excuse when Zimmerman (who has been arrested dozens of times) shot Trayvon Martin.

Again, I really love how you libertarians who rail against government and think guys like Cliven Bundy were heroes apparently think the Darkies need to be happy living under a police state!

She had high levels of THC in her system in an autopsy done at least three days AFTER she was arrested which means that she was most likely stoned to the max when she was operating that motor vehicle. This is a woman who had been issued multiple tickets for traffic violations including a DUI along with driving on a suspended license and driving uninsured cars. That didn't take place in Texas! Those took place in Chicago! So stop trying to paint Sandra Bland as an "innocent". I was amazed that she wasn't able to get friends or family to post a $500 bond for her when I first heard about this story but now that I know her history it makes perfect sense to me. Sandra doesn't show up at court and doesn't pay her court costs and fines. So if you DO post her bond...you're never going to see that money again! That's the kind of behavior that makes people not take your calls from jail.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

You have an articulate and good looking black woman who probably came from up north some where and you have a very red neck white officer with that hickey kind of country accent. He's probably spent his entire life within 10 miles of where that incident took place. I bet he has a half dozen confederate T shirts.

For some reason, and you can see it here on the USMB, conservatives and right wingers believe you should just give up every right you have and instantly jump at what a police officer says, no matter the circumstances, or you get what you deserve. Especially if you are black, Hispanic, gay or some other minority. It's an example of the ultimate police state.

So he stops her for not using her turn signal. Of course she should use her turn signal, that's what it's there for. He should have just given her a ticket or a warning. And if it was some other white with that hickey accent, you know he would have only given a verbal warning if he had bothered to stop them.

And I'll tell you something else. I have relatives in the deep south that I spent some vacations and a couple of summers with growing up. I speak perfect "Yawl (or as some USMB members insist, "ya'll"), and I have been stopped because my license is from out of state and I just start talking Yawl and they suddenly talk very nice and have never given me a ticket.

Clearly that officer provoked her and escalated the situation with "put out your cigarette" and "step out of the car" and arresting her. It wasn't that he wanted her respect. He wanted her to cower and shuffle and she wasn't having it. So in his tiny and racist little mind, he was teaching her a lesson and it was within his right to teach her that lesson no matter what the actual law said because of who he was, the uniform he was wearing and who she was. In that part of the country, it's the "natural order" of things.

You were wrong about Zimmerman, wrong about Brown, and pretty much wrong about everything you post. This mess is some of the most ignorant and wrong garbage that you've ever posted. I don't know how you manage to one-up your stupidity every time. It's actually fascinating.

I lived in Houston for 12 years. Hempstead is a little bedroom community just outside Houston.

The way that pig treated Sandra Bland is the NORM, not an exception. I was harassed by police on a few occasions myself, for the reasons that RDean lists, even though I am white and spoke "YAWL" pretty good myself.

1. I had a motorcycle cop stop me for taking the "wrong lane" out of the downtown post office when it was my first trip into the city after moving there just days before. I still had PA plates and license. He threatened to arrest me because I had a "bad attitude" when I expressed irritation when he suggested I was lying about being in town just a few days.

2. A Houston cop on duty IN HIS SQUAD CAR parked at a 7-11 stuck his head out the window and made sucking noises at me as I was walking into the store. When I turned and glared at him he just gave me a good old Texas shit-eating grin. If I had tried to take his badge number I would have opened up a world of pain for myself.

3. A Texas state highway policeman stopped me for speeding when I was trying to get away from a truck that was driving erratically all over I-10. He claimed he didn't see the truck that was weaving in and around traffic which was also the same time he claimed he saw me speeding.

What these three incidents have in common is that I am NOT a rednecked, white male in a pickup truck. Period, the end.

I've lived and worked in and around Houston my entire life, over 50 years and I've never been stopped by a Houston cop.

 

[Oldstyle]

You have an articulate and good looking black woman who probably came from up north some where and you have a very red neck white officer with that hickey kind of country accent. He's probably spent his entire life within 10 miles of where that incident took place. I bet he has a half dozen confederate T shirts.

For some reason, and you can see it here on the USMB, conservatives and right wingers believe you should just give up every right you have and instantly jump at what a police officer says, no matter the circumstances, or you get what you deserve. Especially if you are black, Hispanic, gay or some other minority. It's an example of the ultimate police state.

So he stops her for not using her turn signal. Of course she should use her turn signal, that's what it's there for. He should have just given her a ticket or a warning. And if it was some other white with that hickey accent, you know he would have only given a verbal warning if he had bothered to stop them.

And I'll tell you something else. I have relatives in the deep south that I spent some vacations and a couple of summers with growing up. I speak perfect "Yawl (or as some USMB members insist, "ya'll"), and I have been stopped because my license is from out of state and I just start talking Yawl and they suddenly talk very nice and have never given me a ticket.

Clearly that officer provoked her and escalated the situation with "put out your cigarette" and "step out of the car" and arresting her. It wasn't that he wanted her respect. He wanted her to cower and shuffle and she wasn't having it. So in his tiny and racist little mind, he was teaching her a lesson and it was within his right to teach her that lesson no matter what the actual law said because of who he was, the uniform he was wearing and who she was. In that part of the country, it's the "natural order" of things.

You were wrong about Zimmerman, wrong about Brown, and pretty much wrong about everything you post. This mess is some of the most ignorant and wrong garbage that you've ever posted. I don't know how you manage to one-up your stupidity every time. It's actually fascinating.

I lived in Houston for 12 years. Hempstead is a little bedroom community just outside Houston.

The way that pig treated Sandra Bland is the NORM, not an exception. I was harassed by police on a few occasions myself, for the reasons that RDean lists, even though I am white and spoke "YAWL" pretty good myself.

1. I had a motorcycle cop stop me for taking the "wrong lane" out of the downtown post office when it was my first trip into the city after moving there just days before. I still had PA plates and license. He threatened to arrest me because I had a "bad attitude" when I expressed irritation when he suggested I was lying about being in town just a few days.

2. A Houston cop on duty IN HIS SQUAD CAR parked at a 7-11 stuck his head out the window and made sucking noises at me as I was walking into the store. When I turned and glared at him he just gave me a good old Texas shit-eating grin. If I had tried to take his badge number I would have opened up a world of pain for myself.

3. A Texas state highway policeman stopped me for speeding when I was trying to get away from a truck that was driving erratically all over I-10. He claimed he didn't see the truck that was weaving in and around traffic which was also the same time he claimed he saw me speeding.

What these three incidents have in common is that I am NOT a rednecked, white male in a pickup truck. Period, the end.

I've lived and worked in and around Houston my entire life, over 50 years and I've never been stopped by a Houston cop.

Let me ask you a simple question, Lonestar...
If you had a prior DUI arrest on your record and you were driving around stoned to the gills...would you argue over a WARNING that was being issued to you for failure to signal a lane change? What kind of an IDIOT does that? If you've got half a brain...you're going to sign that warning...thank the nice policeman who didn't realize that you were baked AND DRIVE THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Oldstyle]

But not Sandra Bland! Oh no...she's got "issues" with cops stopping black people so she's going to give that trooper a piece of her mind before this is over!

 

[Oldstyle]

My dad told me once that there were two kinds of people in jail...really bad ones...and really stupid ones. Sandra Bland falls into the second category. She's REALLY stupid!

 

[Oldstyle]

It's like Mike Brown robbing a convenience store in broad daylight and then refusing to get out of the middle of the street for a police cruiser. Who is THAT stupid?

 

[Claudette]

Joe's problem is that he starts from the automatic assumption that the Texas State Trooper has to be a racist (because Joe assumes that all white police officers are racists!) who only stopped Sandra Bland because she was black.

The problem with that assumption is that it makes absolutely no sense for the trooper to have written Bland a warning rather than a citation (which one would assume he would do if he really WAS a racist!).

Yeah why would I be not inclined to take the police's side of hte story. I mean besides the evidence on the video tape where Encino loses his shit and clear evidence he LIED ON HIS REPORT TO HIS SUPERIOR!

Yeah, well you have...

Eric Garner
Mike Brown
Tamir Rice
That Pool Party at McKinney

You know, a whole bunch of cases where the police killed or brutalized black people over minor offenses....

So who are these two people? What were their mindsets leading up to the confrontation? Were there any contributing factors involved?

You've got Trooper Brian Encinia on one side of this conflict. So what do we know about him? He is listed in the Texas voter records as being of Hispanic descent. He's a new trooper, only having been off probation in June of this year. He came into the State Troopers after having been a Chief in the local volunteer Fire Department and a supervisor at Blue Bell Ice Cream. In an evaluation of his work in September and October 2014, a supervisor noted Encinia had received "written counseling for unprofessional conduct ... for an incident occurring while at a school in Austin," the AP said, adding that the document provided no additional information. Otherwise Encinia's trooper evaluations were all positive.

Well, what do we know about Storm-Trooper Encinio?

Well, we've got him on tape threatening to LIGHT YOU UP! with a Taser. We have evidence he lied to his superior that he tried to de-escalate the situation when in fact he illegall prolonged the stop and then escalated the conflict. He claimed that the woman hit him when in fact you have two tapes of the incident that shows she didn't.

On the other side, you've got Sandra Bland. What do we know about her? Well we know that her autopsy showed rather high levels of THC in her system even though she'd been sitting in jail for three days. One can only assume that she wasn't getting high IN the jail so one has to assume that Sandra was stoned BEFORE she ended up there. She was also taking a prescription medication for epilepsy that had a possible side effect of aggressive behavior. A further look into Bland's history shows that she had at least 10 encounters herself with police in both Illinois and Texas in past years. At the time of her death she still owed a total of $7,579.00 in court fines resulting from five traffic stops in various Chicago suburbs (including a DUI), and she had been cited several times for her failure to pay those fines.

OH MY GOD THE DARKIE WAS SMOKING POT!!!!!

That's like the go-to for racists, isn't it? The Darkie was smoking pot. I think I recall you guys using this excuse when Zimmerman (who has been arrested dozens of times) shot Trayvon Martin.

Again, I really love how you libertarians who rail against government and think guys like Cliven Bundy were heroes apparently think the Darkies need to be happy living under a police state!

She had high levels of THC in her system in an autopsy done at least three days AFTER she was arrested which means that she was most likely stoned to the max when she was operating that motor vehicle. This is a woman who had been issued multiple tickets for traffic violations including a DUI along with driving on a suspended license and driving uninsured cars. That didn't take place in Texas! Those took place in Chicago! So stop trying to paint Sandra Bland as an "innocent". I was amazed that she wasn't able to get friends or family to post a $500 bond for her when I first heard about this story but now that I know her history it makes perfect sense to me. Sandra doesn't show up at court and doesn't pay her court costs and fines. So if you DO post her bond...you're never going to see that money again! That's the kind of behavior that makes people not take your calls from jail.

Yup. She was an idiot.

All she had to do was smile, agree with the officer, take the warning and be on her merry way.

Instead the dumbass gets arrested and offs herself in jail.

She knew no one who knew her would pay her $500 bail. They all knew what a fucking loser she was and that if they paid the bail they would never see their money again.

I can't for the life of me see why anyone would care about a loser like her. The op's an idiot trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill and pretend that that woman was wronged. What a fucking idiot the op is.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

You have an articulate and good looking black woman who probably came from up north some where and you have a very red neck white officer with that hickey kind of country accent. He's probably spent his entire life within 10 miles of where that incident took place. I bet he has a half dozen confederate T shirts.

For some reason, and you can see it here on the USMB, conservatives and right wingers believe you should just give up every right you have and instantly jump at what a police officer says, no matter the circumstances, or you get what you deserve. Especially if you are black, Hispanic, gay or some other minority. It's an example of the ultimate police state.

So he stops her for not using her turn signal. Of course she should use her turn signal, that's what it's there for. He should have just given her a ticket or a warning. And if it was some other white with that hickey accent, you know he would have only given a verbal warning if he had bothered to stop them.

And I'll tell you something else. I have relatives in the deep south that I spent some vacations and a couple of summers with growing up. I speak perfect "Yawl (or as some USMB members insist, "ya'll"), and I have been stopped because my license is from out of state and I just start talking Yawl and they suddenly talk very nice and have never given me a ticket.

Clearly that officer provoked her and escalated the situation with "put out your cigarette" and "step out of the car" and arresting her. It wasn't that he wanted her respect. He wanted her to cower and shuffle and she wasn't having it. So in his tiny and racist little mind, he was teaching her a lesson and it was within his right to teach her that lesson no matter what the actual law said because of who he was, the uniform he was wearing and who she was. In that part of the country, it's the "natural order" of things.

You were wrong about Zimmerman, wrong about Brown, and pretty much wrong about everything you post. This mess is some of the most ignorant and wrong garbage that you've ever posted. I don't know how you manage to one-up your stupidity every time. It's actually fascinating.

I lived in Houston for 12 years. Hempstead is a little bedroom community just outside Houston.

The way that pig treated Sandra Bland is the NORM, not an exception. I was harassed by police on a few occasions myself, for the reasons that RDean lists, even though I am white and spoke "YAWL" pretty good myself.

1. I had a motorcycle cop stop me for taking the "wrong lane" out of the downtown post office when it was my first trip into the city after moving there just days before. I still had PA plates and license. He threatened to arrest me because I had a "bad attitude" when I expressed irritation when he suggested I was lying about being in town just a few days.

2. A Houston cop on duty IN HIS SQUAD CAR parked at a 7-11 stuck his head out the window and made sucking noises at me as I was walking into the store. When I turned and glared at him he just gave me a good old Texas shit-eating grin. If I had tried to take his badge number I would have opened up a world of pain for myself.

3. A Texas state highway policeman stopped me for speeding when I was trying to get away from a truck that was driving erratically all over I-10. He claimed he didn't see the truck that was weaving in and around traffic which was also the same time he claimed he saw me speeding.

What these three incidents have in common is that I am NOT a rednecked, white male in a pickup truck. Period, the end.

I've lived and worked in and around Houston my entire life, over 50 years and I've never been stopped by a Houston cop.

Let me ask you a simple question, Lonestar...
If you had a prior DUI arrest on your record and you were driving around stoned to the gills...would you argue over a WARNING that was being issued to you for failure to signal a lane change? What kind of an IDIOT does that? If you've got half a brain...you're going to sign that warning...thank the nice policeman who didn't realize that you were baked AND DRIVE THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been pulled over more times than I care to remember around my little hometown, I usually receive verbal warnings, seldom any written warning and never a full blown citation. I've been pulled over for running a red light, speeding, speeding in a school zone, out of date registration sticker, out of date inspection sticker, I had an expired license on several of the stops. no proof of insurance (although my insurance was current) I've had open containers of alcohol in my truck and I've never received a citation.

I am always courteous to officers, even when they're apparently having a bad day. I obey their request and answer their questions and as I've stated, I'm usually let go with a verbal warning.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You have an articulate and good looking black woman who probably came from up north some where and you have a very red neck white officer with that hickey kind of country accent. He's probably spent his entire life within 10 miles of where that incident took place. I bet he has a half dozen confederate T shirts.

For some reason, and you can see it here on the USMB, conservatives and right wingers believe you should just give up every right you have and instantly jump at what a police officer says, no matter the circumstances, or you get what you deserve. Especially if you are black, Hispanic, gay or some other minority. It's an example of the ultimate police state.

So he stops her for not using her turn signal. Of course she should use her turn signal, that's what it's there for. He should have just given her a ticket or a warning. And if it was some other white with that hickey accent, you know he would have only given a verbal warning if he had bothered to stop them.

And I'll tell you something else. I have relatives in the deep south that I spent some vacations and a couple of summers with growing up. I speak perfect "Yawl (or as some USMB members insist, "ya'll"), and I have been stopped because my license is from out of state and I just start talking Yawl and they suddenly talk very nice and have never given me a ticket.

Clearly that officer provoked her and escalated the situation with "put out your cigarette" and "step out of the car" and arresting her. It wasn't that he wanted her respect. He wanted her to cower and shuffle and she wasn't having it. So in his tiny and racist little mind, he was teaching her a lesson and it was within his right to teach her that lesson no matter what the actual law said because of who he was, the uniform he was wearing and who she was. In that part of the country, it's the "natural order" of things.

You were wrong about Zimmerman, wrong about Brown, and pretty much wrong about everything you post. This mess is some of the most ignorant and wrong garbage that you've ever posted. I don't know how you manage to one-up your stupidity every time. It's actually fascinating.

I lived in Houston for 12 years. Hempstead is a little bedroom community just outside Houston.

The way that pig treated Sandra Bland is the NORM, not an exception. I was harassed by police on a few occasions myself, for the reasons that RDean lists, even though I am white and spoke "YAWL" pretty good myself.

1. I had a motorcycle cop stop me for taking the "wrong lane" out of the downtown post office when it was my first trip into the city after moving there just days before. I still had PA plates and license. He threatened to arrest me because I had a "bad attitude" when I expressed irritation when he suggested I was lying about being in town just a few days.

2. A Houston cop on duty IN HIS SQUAD CAR parked at a 7-11 stuck his head out the window and made sucking noises at me as I was walking into the store. When I turned and glared at him he just gave me a good old Texas shit-eating grin. If I had tried to take his badge number I would have opened up a world of pain for myself.

3. A Texas state highway policeman stopped me for speeding when I was trying to get away from a truck that was driving erratically all over I-10. He claimed he didn't see the truck that was weaving in and around traffic which was also the same time he claimed he saw me speeding.

What these three incidents have in common is that I am NOT a rednecked, white male in a pickup truck. Period, the end.

I've lived and worked in and around Houston my entire life, over 50 years and I've never been stopped by a Houston cop.

Let me ask you a simple question, Lonestar...
If you had a prior DUI arrest on your record and you were driving around stoned to the gills...would you argue over a WARNING that was being issued to you for failure to signal a lane change? What kind of an IDIOT does that? If you've got half a brain...you're going to sign that warning...thank the nice policeman who didn't realize that you were baked AND DRIVE THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been pulled over more times than I care to remember around my little hometown, I usually receive verbal warnings, seldom any written warning and never a full blown citation. I've been pulled over for running a red light, speeding, speeding in a school zone, out of date registration sticker, out of date inspection sticker, I had an expired license on several of the stops. no proof of insurance (although my insurance was current) I've had open containers of alcohol in my truck and I've never received a citation.

I am always courteous to officers, even when they're apparently having a bad day. I obey their request and answer their questions and as I've stated, I'm usually let go with a verbal warning.

Amazing aint it?

 

[Oldstyle]

You have an articulate and good looking black woman who probably came from up north some where and you have a very red neck white officer with that hickey kind of country accent. He's probably spent his entire life within 10 miles of where that incident took place. I bet he has a half dozen confederate T shirts.

For some reason, and you can see it here on the USMB, conservatives and right wingers believe you should just give up every right you have and instantly jump at what a police officer says, no matter the circumstances, or you get what you deserve. Especially if you are black, Hispanic, gay or some other minority. It's an example of the ultimate police state.

So he stops her for not using her turn signal. Of course she should use her turn signal, that's what it's there for. He should have just given her a ticket or a warning. And if it was some other white with that hickey accent, you know he would have only given a verbal warning if he had bothered to stop them.

And I'll tell you something else. I have relatives in the deep south that I spent some vacations and a couple of summers with growing up. I speak perfect "Yawl (or as some USMB members insist, "ya'll"), and I have been stopped because my license is from out of state and I just start talking Yawl and they suddenly talk very nice and have never given me a ticket.

Clearly that officer provoked her and escalated the situation with "put out your cigarette" and "step out of the car" and arresting her. It wasn't that he wanted her respect. He wanted her to cower and shuffle and she wasn't having it. So in his tiny and racist little mind, he was teaching her a lesson and it was within his right to teach her that lesson no matter what the actual law said because of who he was, the uniform he was wearing and who she was. In that part of the country, it's the "natural order" of things.

You were wrong about Zimmerman, wrong about Brown, and pretty much wrong about everything you post. This mess is some of the most ignorant and wrong garbage that you've ever posted. I don't know how you manage to one-up your stupidity every time. It's actually fascinating.

I lived in Houston for 12 years. Hempstead is a little bedroom community just outside Houston.

The way that pig treated Sandra Bland is the NORM, not an exception. I was harassed by police on a few occasions myself, for the reasons that RDean lists, even though I am white and spoke "YAWL" pretty good myself.

1. I had a motorcycle cop stop me for taking the "wrong lane" out of the downtown post office when it was my first trip into the city after moving there just days before. I still had PA plates and license. He threatened to arrest me because I had a "bad attitude" when I expressed irritation when he suggested I was lying about being in town just a few days.

2. A Houston cop on duty IN HIS SQUAD CAR parked at a 7-11 stuck his head out the window and made sucking noises at me as I was walking into the store. When I turned and glared at him he just gave me a good old Texas shit-eating grin. If I had tried to take his badge number I would have opened up a world of pain for myself.

3. A Texas state highway policeman stopped me for speeding when I was trying to get away from a truck that was driving erratically all over I-10. He claimed he didn't see the truck that was weaving in and around traffic which was also the same time he claimed he saw me speeding.

What these three incidents have in common is that I am NOT a rednecked, white male in a pickup truck. Period, the end.

I've lived and worked in and around Houston my entire life, over 50 years and I've never been stopped by a Houston cop.

Let me ask you a simple question, Lonestar...
If you had a prior DUI arrest on your record and you were driving around stoned to the gills...would you argue over a WARNING that was being issued to you for failure to signal a lane change? What kind of an IDIOT does that? If you've got half a brain...you're going to sign that warning...thank the nice policeman who didn't realize that you were baked AND DRIVE THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been pulled over more times than I care to remember around my little hometown, I usually receive verbal warnings, seldom any written warning and never a full blown citation. I've been pulled over for running a red light, speeding, speeding in a school zone, out of date registration sticker, out of date inspection sticker, I had an expired license on several of the stops. no proof of insurance (although my insurance was current) I've had open containers of alcohol in my truck and I've never received a citation.

I am always courteous to officers, even when they're apparently having a bad day. I obey their request and answer their questions and as I've stated, I'm usually let go with a verbal warning.

Unless they're getting pressure from superiors (either because of citizen complaints about speeders in a neighborhood or politicians looking for additional income for their particular city) police officers don't like to write tickets. If you're not an asshole and don't have a record of bad behavior...they are going to issue you a warning and let you go on your way. If you DO want to get a ticket...then by all means...give the cop attitude when they have you pulled over. If paying that money to get a little rant off your chest makes you feel better...then by all means rant away!

 

[Lonestar_logic]

You were wrong about Zimmerman, wrong about Brown, and pretty much wrong about everything you post. This mess is some of the most ignorant and wrong garbage that you've ever posted. I don't know how you manage to one-up your stupidity every time. It's actually fascinating.

I lived in Houston for 12 years. Hempstead is a little bedroom community just outside Houston.

The way that pig treated Sandra Bland is the NORM, not an exception. I was harassed by police on a few occasions myself, for the reasons that RDean lists, even though I am white and spoke "YAWL" pretty good myself.

1. I had a motorcycle cop stop me for taking the "wrong lane" out of the downtown post office when it was my first trip into the city after moving there just days before. I still had PA plates and license. He threatened to arrest me because I had a "bad attitude" when I expressed irritation when he suggested I was lying about being in town just a few days.

2. A Houston cop on duty IN HIS SQUAD CAR parked at a 7-11 stuck his head out the window and made sucking noises at me as I was walking into the store. When I turned and glared at him he just gave me a good old Texas shit-eating grin. If I had tried to take his badge number I would have opened up a world of pain for myself.

3. A Texas state highway policeman stopped me for speeding when I was trying to get away from a truck that was driving erratically all over I-10. He claimed he didn't see the truck that was weaving in and around traffic which was also the same time he claimed he saw me speeding.

What these three incidents have in common is that I am NOT a rednecked, white male in a pickup truck. Period, the end.

I've lived and worked in and around Houston my entire life, over 50 years and I've never been stopped by a Houston cop.

Let me ask you a simple question, Lonestar...
If you had a prior DUI arrest on your record and you were driving around stoned to the gills...would you argue over a WARNING that was being issued to you for failure to signal a lane change? What kind of an IDIOT does that? If you've got half a brain...you're going to sign that warning...thank the nice policeman who didn't realize that you were baked AND DRIVE THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been pulled over more times than I care to remember around my little hometown, I usually receive verbal warnings, seldom any written warning and never a full blown citation. I've been pulled over for running a red light, speeding, speeding in a school zone, out of date registration sticker, out of date inspection sticker, I had an expired license on several of the stops. no proof of insurance (although my insurance was current) I've had open containers of alcohol in my truck and I've never received a citation.

I am always courteous to officers, even when they're apparently having a bad day. I obey their request and answer their questions and as I've stated, I'm usually let go with a verbal warning.

Unless they're getting pressure from superiors (either because of citizen complaints about speeders in a neighborhood or politicians looking for additional income for their particular city) police officers don't like to write tickets. If you're not an asshole and don't have a record of bad behavior...they are going to issue you a warning and let you go on your way. If you DO want to get a ticket...then by all means...give the cop attitude when they have you pulled over. If paying that money to get a little rant off your chest makes you feel better...then by all means rant away!

Throwing a temper tantrum is how you may deal with problems but as an adult I handle things differently.

 

[dannyboys]

You were wrong about Zimmerman, wrong about Brown, and pretty much wrong about everything you post. This mess is some of the most ignorant and wrong garbage that you've ever posted. I don't know how you manage to one-up your stupidity every time. It's actually fascinating.

I lived in Houston for 12 years. Hempstead is a little bedroom community just outside Houston.

The way that pig treated Sandra Bland is the NORM, not an exception. I was harassed by police on a few occasions myself, for the reasons that RDean lists, even though I am white and spoke "YAWL" pretty good myself.

1. I had a motorcycle cop stop me for taking the "wrong lane" out of the downtown post office when it was my first trip into the city after moving there just days before. I still had PA plates and license. He threatened to arrest me because I had a "bad attitude" when I expressed irritation when he suggested I was lying about being in town just a few days.

2. A Houston cop on duty IN HIS SQUAD CAR parked at a 7-11 stuck his head out the window and made sucking noises at me as I was walking into the store. When I turned and glared at him he just gave me a good old Texas shit-eating grin. If I had tried to take his badge number I would have opened up a world of pain for myself.

3. A Texas state highway policeman stopped me for speeding when I was trying to get away from a truck that was driving erratically all over I-10. He claimed he didn't see the truck that was weaving in and around traffic which was also the same time he claimed he saw me speeding.

What these three incidents have in common is that I am NOT a rednecked, white male in a pickup truck. Period, the end.

I've lived and worked in and around Houston my entire life, over 50 years and I've never been stopped by a Houston cop.

Let me ask you a simple question, Lonestar...
If you had a prior DUI arrest on your record and you were driving around stoned to the gills...would you argue over a WARNING that was being issued to you for failure to signal a lane change? What kind of an IDIOT does that? If you've got half a brain...you're going to sign that warning...thank the nice policeman who didn't realize that you were baked AND DRIVE THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been pulled over more times than I care to remember around my little hometown, I usually receive verbal warnings, seldom any written warning and never a full blown citation. I've been pulled over for running a red light, speeding, speeding in a school zone, out of date registration sticker, out of date inspection sticker, I had an expired license on several of the stops. no proof of insurance (although my insurance was current) I've had open containers of alcohol in my truck and I've never received a citation.

I am always courteous to officers, even when they're apparently having a bad day. I obey their request and answer their questions and as I've stated, I'm usually let go with a verbal warning.

Unless they're getting pressure from superiors (either because of citizen complaints about speeders in a neighborhood or politicians looking for additional income for their particular city) police officers don't like to write tickets. If you're not an asshole and don't have a record of bad behavior...they are going to issue you a warning and let you go on your way. If you DO want to get a ticket...then by all means...give the cop attitude when they have you pulled over. If paying that money to get a little rant off your chest makes you feel better...then by all means rant away!

Indeed!
If you have been stopped......for any reason by a cop here's some free advice.
Put out the smoke. Make sure there is nothing near you you could use as any sort of weapon in any way.
Keep your hands on the wheel unless told to do otherwise. If the cop asks you to step out of the vehicle very politely say "yes officer". Step out very smoothly. No sudden movements.
Do exactly what the cop tells you to do.
If you know you've fucked up somehow admit it straight up. (That's the best way to just get a warning).
Cops must deal with the fucking human scum of the earth and they never know if you belong in that group. Show the cop you don't and your odds are good the cop will cut you some slake.
Act like the negro bitch did and you'll end up in jail.
No one would put up bail for her b/c they knew they'd never see the money again.

 

[Oldstyle]

Sir Charles Barkley put it rather well when he said that without police in poor neighborhoods they would turn into the "Wild West".

You may not like being pulled over and having a police officer check your information but if they weren't out there doing just that, there would be a lot more drunks on the road...a lot more stolen cars...a lot more uninsured motorists...and a lot more road rage.

 

[PredFan]

You were wrong about Zimmerman, wrong about Brown, and pretty much wrong about everything you post. This mess is some of the most ignorant and wrong garbage that you've ever posted. I don't know how you manage to one-up your stupidity every time. It's actually fascinating.

I lived in Houston for 12 years. Hempstead is a little bedroom community just outside Houston.

The way that pig treated Sandra Bland is the NORM, not an exception. I was harassed by police on a few occasions myself, for the reasons that RDean lists, even though I am white and spoke "YAWL" pretty good myself.

1. I had a motorcycle cop stop me for taking the "wrong lane" out of the downtown post office when it was my first trip into the city after moving there just days before. I still had PA plates and license. He threatened to arrest me because I had a "bad attitude" when I expressed irritation when he suggested I was lying about being in town just a few days.

2. A Houston cop on duty IN HIS SQUAD CAR parked at a 7-11 stuck his head out the window and made sucking noises at me as I was walking into the store. When I turned and glared at him he just gave me a good old Texas shit-eating grin. If I had tried to take his badge number I would have opened up a world of pain for myself.

3. A Texas state highway policeman stopped me for speeding when I was trying to get away from a truck that was driving erratically all over I-10. He claimed he didn't see the truck that was weaving in and around traffic which was also the same time he claimed he saw me speeding.

What these three incidents have in common is that I am NOT a rednecked, white male in a pickup truck. Period, the end.

I've lived and worked in and around Houston my entire life, over 50 years and I've never been stopped by a Houston cop.

Let me ask you a simple question, Lonestar...
If you had a prior DUI arrest on your record and you were driving around stoned to the gills...would you argue over a WARNING that was being issued to you for failure to signal a lane change? What kind of an IDIOT does that? If you've got half a brain...you're going to sign that warning...thank the nice policeman who didn't realize that you were baked AND DRIVE THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been pulled over more times than I care to remember around my little hometown, I usually receive verbal warnings, seldom any written warning and never a full blown citation. I've been pulled over for running a red light, speeding, speeding in a school zone, out of date registration sticker, out of date inspection sticker, I had an expired license on several of the stops. no proof of insurance (although my insurance was current) I've had open containers of alcohol in my truck and I've never received a citation.

I am always courteous to officers, even when they're apparently having a bad day. I obey their request and answer their questions and as I've stated, I'm usually let go with a verbal warning.

Unless they're getting pressure from superiors (either because of citizen complaints about speeders in a neighborhood or politicians looking for additional income for their particular city) police officers don't like to write tickets. If you're not an asshole and don't have a record of bad behavior...they are going to issue you a warning and let you go on your way. If you DO want to get a ticket...then by all means...give the cop attitude when they have you pulled over. If paying that money to get a little rant off your chest makes you feel better...then by all means rant away!