Every Jew has secret knowledge of a Zionist world conspiracy? Not true.

[LA RAM FAN]

So your " claim" for all the Hate is the lie of the Holocaust

I never said or indicated anything of the sort. Care to explain?.

Arabs wanted the Jews to move to the ME.

That would be in incorrect assertion.

You are both delusional and a liar

One who's delusional is one who holds a false belief.
The delusional are those who still believe the standard "Holocaust" narrative to be true in every detail despite the enormous amount of evidence showing that it's been exaggerated and falsified.
A liar is one who intentionally propagates information they know to be false.
No one her has lied.

Keep denying;

I shall. It's important people learn the truth.

That's what you do best

Thank you. I don't really deserve much credit, though; it only appears I do it so well because those insisting on the complete veracity of the standard "Holocaust" narrative here are doing so poorly.

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/the-holocaust


Josef Mengele, the 'Angel of Death' and the Twins of Auschwitz

Hey, great job! You're really starting to get the hang of the whole supporting your position with sources thing. Excellent!

Now, take a look at both of the articles you linked, please. Notice that neither of them cite any sources themselves. Both only parrot the received narrative without presenting any evidence of it's veracity. One has a few photos, which is fine, yet none of them demonstrates that the "Holocaust" narrative as received is true or that anything I've said here is false. Remember, as I've said, no one denies that jews were targeted or that there were concentration camps. Pictures of people with yellow star patches or in prison uniforms doesn't contradict anything "Holocaust deniers" contend. The articles do nothing to counter my position that the narrative has been exaggerated and falsified. Neither do they anything to support your position that the standard narrative is immaculate truth, though they agree and parrot it.

Ample evidence for the Operation Reinhardt camps, and nearly complete railroad schedules and census numbers, not to mention eyewitnesses for their existence, so anyone stupid enough to ruin their credibility by denying the existed, regardless of their political biases, is an idiot merely pandering to a small cult of morons and sociopaths. Why these goofs insist on repeating the denial idiocy is a mystery; seems they can't move on from it for some reason.

If you'll read back in the thread, you'll see that no one ever argues that there were no camps, no rail transports, no jewish prisoners.
Census figures, which you mentioned, from before and after the war years show that 6 million jews could not possibly have been murdered. The census figures most often cited by "Holocaust deniers" are those from the World Jewish Almanac. I'm pretty sure I posted them earlier in the thread.
The matter of the "eyewitnesses" was also dealt with earlier in the thread.
Revisionists perist in our efforts to spread the truth because the truth is important in itself and because the consequences and implications of the hoax remain significant.

Yes. Those of us who went on to take Logic 102 and 201 know that there are many perfectly valid ad hom arguments, despite the snivelings of those who only took the Intro courses for easy grades and learned to parrot 'fallacies' as if they suddenly knew all there was to know about 'logic'.

Let's talk about logic, then: What was the logic behind transporting trainloads of people many miles to kill them with insecticide in gas chambers when shooting them would have been simpler, faster, and cheaper?

I'm with Hossfly. Fuck all you Jew-hating pieces of shit around here.

We're about 2 levels above you, and you can fuck right the hell off.

Facts aren't hatred.
There's one poster in this thread who, it could be argued, has expressed hatred for jews and Protestants.
Among the rest, the only hatred displayed -- toward Poles and toward National Socialists -- has been from those arguing that the "Holocaust" narrative as received is perfect truth.

you so much took him to school.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

lol your rubbish has been exploded for decades now; just because you were born yesterday and think you're 'Speshul' and smart enough to just repackage the rubbish doesn't make it necessary to cover it all yet again, dumbass.

Now that you've made your cogent and well-researched argument by cursing and insulting me:
The upshot of your hateful statement here is that you have no argument to counter the points I'm making.

you really think that's a point???

Yes. Of course it is, because not only does the standard "Holocaust" narrative fall apart in the face of facts, it also defies reason.

hey could make up their own history if there were far fewer witnesses for one

Pretty sure people who've been shot dead don't make any better witnesses than people who've been gassed to death.

it's far cheaper to mass murder people in large groups than with bullets, not to mention easier to toss them into ovens and reduce the amount of material to be buried,

So loading masses of people onto trains, using large amounts of fuel and time and manpower to transport them many miles, unloading and processing them and herding them into murderous gas chambers that took time and money and resources and manpower to construct, and using the huge amounts of the insecticide Zyklon B necessary to kill them, burning the vast amount of fuel and time needed to cremate all those bodies, then cleaning up from it all to start the process over again is easier and cheaper than a single bullet to each brain where they are and burial in a mass grave? All while fighting a war requiring manpower, fuel, and other resources?
Really?
Want to try again?

you probably have zero clue as to hygiene issues with piles of rotting bodies and diseases and airborne infections, buried or not.

Yet the standard "Holocaust" propaganda also includes piles of rotting bodies and mass graves.

But let's say that the reason you offer was really why the ridiculously inefficient and illogical method of mass murder asserted by the standard "Holocaust" narrative was implemented, despite it's being thoroughly disproved by a mountain of evidence. Why not simply burn the people to death in the first place? Throw them into fire pits -- "the Nazis" being so inhumanely cruel and all anyway -- and save all the time and manpower and gas and everything by skipping right to the burning step.

Elie Wiesel is a liar, a shill, and a conman but he was smart enough when he wrote his purported autobiographical account of his time in the camps to claim that the jews were murdered by being thrown alive into fire pit rather than making the outlandish claim or mass gassing (which would leave physical and forensic evidence that doesn't exist) and cremations (which is a mathematical impossibility given the time it takes to cremate a body).

You're not here to actually discuss anything, just cater to your own dumbassery and your tiny little peer group of sociopaths.

I am discussing, being restrained and civil throughout, and making my case with reason and evidence. Those in opposition to my position and that of some others in this thread are variously cursing, hurling insults, belittling, asserting without offering supporting evidence, refusing to consider or even to view linked documentation contrary to their position, arguing against points no one has made, deflecting or ignoring points that have been made, and repeating assertions of an historical narrative they've been taught without for a moment entertaining a contrary view.

No, Sir. It is you and those on your side of this issue who are 'not here to actually discuss anything, just cater to your own dumbassery.' I am, on this topic as on all others, willing and able to listen to reasoned arguments, consider sound evidence that counters my own views, and reconsider my position. Neither reasoned arguments nor sound evidence have been presented by you or any on your side of this issue. I am discussing and debating with an open mind and a civil demeanor. You and yours are not.

best post on this thread.


Indeed Picaro and the rest of the Israel apologsits when in failure to refute the evidence you have posted in this thread with links,they have all indeed stooped to hurling insults,belittling,asserting without offering supporting evidence,refusing to consider or even view linked doccumentation or read links with historical facts

 

[LA RAM FAN]

lol your rubbish has been exploded for decades now; just because you were born yesterday and think you're 'Speshul' and smart enough to just repackage the rubbish doesn't make it necessary to cover it all yet again, dumbass.

Now that you've made your cogent and well-researched argument by cursing and insulting me:
The upshot of your hateful statement here is that you have no argument to counter the points I'm making.

you really think that's a point???

Yes. Of course it is, because not only does the standard "Holocaust" narrative fall apart in the face of facts, it also defies reason.

hey could make up their own history if there were far fewer witnesses for one

Pretty sure people who've been shot dead don't make any better witnesses than people who've been gassed to death.

it's far cheaper to mass murder people in large groups than with bullets, not to mention easier to toss them into ovens and reduce the amount of material to be buried,

So loading masses of people onto trains, using large amounts of fuel and time and manpower to transport them many miles, unloading and processing them and herding them into murderous gas chambers that took time and money and resources and manpower to construct, and using the huge amounts of the insecticide Zyklon B necessary to kill them, burning the vast amount of fuel and time needed to cremate all those bodies, then cleaning up from it all to start the process over again is easier and cheaper than a single bullet to each brain where they are and burial in a mass grave? All while fighting a war requiring manpower, fuel, and other resources?
Really?
Want to try again?

you probably have zero clue as to hygiene issues with piles of rotting bodies and diseases and airborne infections, buried or not.

Yet the standard "Holocaust" propaganda also includes piles of rotting bodies and mass graves.

But let's say that the reason you offer was really why the ridiculously inefficient and illogical method of mass murder asserted by the standard "Holocaust" narrative was implemented, despite it's being thoroughly disproved by a mountain of evidence. Why not simply burn the people to death in the first place? Throw them into fire pits -- "the Nazis" being so inhumanely cruel and all anyway -- and save all the time and manpower and gas and everything by skipping right to the burning step.

Elie Wiesel is a liar, a shill, and a conman but he was smart enough when he wrote his purported autobiographical account of his time in the camps to claim that the jews were murdered by being thrown alive into fire pit rather than making the outlandish claim or mass gassing (which would leave physical and forensic evidence that doesn't exist) and cremations (which is a mathematical impossibility given the time it takes to cremate a body).

You're not here to actually discuss anything, just cater to your own dumbassery and your tiny little peer group of sociopaths.

I am discussing, being restrained and civil throughout, and making my case with reason and evidence. Those in opposition to my position and that of some others in this thread are variously cursing, hurling insults, belittling, asserting without offering supporting evidence, refusing to consider or even to view linked documentation contrary to their position, arguing against points no one has made, deflecting or ignoring points that have been made, and repeating assertions of an historical narrative they've been taught without for a moment entertaining a contrary view.

No, Sir. It is you and those on your side of this issue who are 'not here to actually discuss anything, just cater to your own dumbassery.' I am, on this topic as on all others, willing and able to listen to reasoned arguments, consider sound evidence that counters my own views, and reconsider my position. Neither reasoned arguments nor sound evidence have been presented by you or any on your side of this issue. I am discussing and debating with an open mind and a civil demeanor. You and yours are not.

You're entirely off-topic with your Holocaust-denial bullshit. Go start your own thread about that or get on topic in here.

evade mode form you as always, the one off topic is YOU liar.LOL

 

[Indeependent]

Show me the verse.
The verses state the opposite.

Exactly. You won't find it in the verses. Astronomy says that.

Not really...immeasurable energy existed far before stars.
Astronomy is not unlike creating a new medication based on chemistry; there is no concrete reason the medication works or it wouldn’t take 15 years to develop.

I am not arguing that there wasn't energy before stars. We were talking only about the Solar system and the sequence of its creation.

Yes, the science may be wrong about it. And may be not. One can choose oneself whether to accept it or not.

Takes a lot of study either way...Torah and Science.
You should look at the Artscroll Talmudic Tractate Sanhedrin...Civilization knew astronomy very well.

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

Would you create universe of robot

Show me the verse.
The verses state the opposite.

Exactly. You won't find it in the verses. Astronomy says that.

Not really...immeasurable energy existed far before stars.
Astronomy is not unlike creating a new medication based on chemistry; there is no concrete reason the medication works or it wouldn’t take 15 years to develop.

I am not arguing that there wasn't energy before stars. We were talking only about the Solar system and the sequence of its creation.

Yes, the science may be wrong about it. And may be not. One can choose oneself whether to accept it or not.

Takes a lot of study either way...Torah and Science.
You should look at the Artscroll Talmudic Tractate Sanhedrin...Civilization knew astronomy very well.

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

As I stated previously, only God is not imperfect.
God exhibits no desire to have a relationship with a robot.
“Darkness” is inherent in order to appreciate “light”.

 

[Picaro]

Ah, I see LA Fan is having trouble attracting attention again for his speshul brand of retarded conspiracy theories.

 

[Indeependent]

Ah, I see LA Fan is having trouble attracting attention again for his speshul brand of retarded conspiracy theories.

Henry Ford is recognized as one of the great historians of all time.

 

[ESay]

Exactly. You won't find it in the verses. Astronomy says that.

Not really...immeasurable energy existed far before stars.
Astronomy is not unlike creating a new medication based on chemistry; there is no concrete reason the medication works or it wouldn’t take 15 years to develop.

I am not arguing that there wasn't energy before stars. We were talking only about the Solar system and the sequence of its creation.

Yes, the science may be wrong about it. And may be not. One can choose oneself whether to accept it or not.

Takes a lot of study either way...Torah and Science.
You should look at the Artscroll Talmudic Tractate Sanhedrin...Civilization knew astronomy very well.

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

Would you create universe of robot

Exactly. You won't find it in the verses. Astronomy says that.

Not really...immeasurable energy existed far before stars.
Astronomy is not unlike creating a new medication based on chemistry; there is no concrete reason the medication works or it wouldn’t take 15 years to develop.

I am not arguing that there wasn't energy before stars. We were talking only about the Solar system and the sequence of its creation.

Yes, the science may be wrong about it. And may be not. One can choose oneself whether to accept it or not.

Takes a lot of study either way...Torah and Science.
You should look at the Artscroll Talmudic Tractate Sanhedrin...Civilization knew astronomy very well.

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

As I stated previously, only God is not imperfect.
God exhibits no desire to have a relationship with a robot.
“Darkness” is inherent in order to appreciate “light”.

I meant not this. Why there is evil because of humans deeds and free will is quite understandable. By natural evil I meant storms, hurricanes, and other natural things which cause damages and deaths.

 

[Indeependent]

Not really...immeasurable energy existed far before stars.
Astronomy is not unlike creating a new medication based on chemistry; there is no concrete reason the medication works or it wouldn’t take 15 years to develop.

I am not arguing that there wasn't energy before stars. We were talking only about the Solar system and the sequence of its creation.

Yes, the science may be wrong about it. And may be not. One can choose oneself whether to accept it or not.

Takes a lot of study either way...Torah and Science.
You should look at the Artscroll Talmudic Tractate Sanhedrin...Civilization knew astronomy very well.

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

Would you create universe of robot

Not really...immeasurable energy existed far before stars.
Astronomy is not unlike creating a new medication based on chemistry; there is no concrete reason the medication works or it wouldn’t take 15 years to develop.

I am not arguing that there wasn't energy before stars. We were talking only about the Solar system and the sequence of its creation.

Yes, the science may be wrong about it. And may be not. One can choose oneself whether to accept it or not.

Takes a lot of study either way...Torah and Science.
You should look at the Artscroll Talmudic Tractate Sanhedrin...Civilization knew astronomy very well.

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

As I stated previously, only God is not imperfect.
God exhibits no desire to have a relationship with a robot.
“Darkness” is inherent in order to appreciate “light”.

I meant not this. Why there is evil because of humans deeds and free will is quite understandable. By natural evil I meant storms, hurricanes, and other natural things which cause damages and deaths.

Based on The Soul of Life (Nefesh Hachaim), there are verses in the Prophets that state the moisture released by human speech affects the atmosphere.

 

[ESay]

I am not arguing that there wasn't energy before stars. We were talking only about the Solar system and the sequence of its creation.

Yes, the science may be wrong about it. And may be not. One can choose oneself whether to accept it or not.

Takes a lot of study either way...Torah and Science.
You should look at the Artscroll Talmudic Tractate Sanhedrin...Civilization knew astronomy very well.

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

Would you create universe of robot

I am not arguing that there wasn't energy before stars. We were talking only about the Solar system and the sequence of its creation.

Yes, the science may be wrong about it. And may be not. One can choose oneself whether to accept it or not.

Takes a lot of study either way...Torah and Science.
You should look at the Artscroll Talmudic Tractate Sanhedrin...Civilization knew astronomy very well.

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

As I stated previously, only God is not imperfect.
God exhibits no desire to have a relationship with a robot.
“Darkness” is inherent in order to appreciate “light”.

I meant not this. Why there is evil because of humans deeds and free will is quite understandable. By natural evil I meant storms, hurricanes, and other natural things which cause damages and deaths.

Based on The Soul of Life (Nefesh Hachaim), there are verses in the Prophets that state the moisture released by human speech affects the atmosphere.

Yeah, and this causes earthquakes, zunami and wild fire.

 

[Hossfly]

One cannot help but notice that those on the "philo-Semitic" side in this thread have replied with derision but haven't addressed any facts (though one did offer an historical explanation for the jews' dominance of Hollywood, that doesn't address the impact of such overwhelming dominance).

The fact is that jews do own and operate the world's central banks.
The fact is that this control over the world's money gives them enormous influence on all business operations that depend, for production or sales, on credit.
The fact is that the defense industry is deeply reliant on credit.
The fact is that this control over the world's money gives them enormous influence on governments.
The fact is that jews are the wealthiest overall sub-group in the US.
The fact is that this gives them even more influence over political candidates and office-holders in the world's most influential country.
The fact is that jews operate 5 of the 6 largest media companies.
The fact is that jews own America's most influential newspapers.
The fact is that this dominance of major media gives jews control over roughly 90% of all information consumed in the West.
The fact is that jews dominate new-media (such as Facebook and Alphabet).
The fact is that this gives jews gatekeeper power over a huge amount of internet-based information.

There are more such facts but posts can only go so so long.

The op was actually being fair and generous in making a distinction between "the jews" and all the jewish people.

It's only paranoia if it's baseless.

best damn post on this thread,you got the zionists like hossfly shill and his fellow shill i love israel running scared asking their handlers what kind of childish pictures to post next after getting their asses handed to them on a platter.


the only thing you really need to make sure and clarify is it is ZIONISTS jews,judaism jewish folks contrary to what the OP said,are good people.

All I know is that Jew-haters are on my shit list.

I'm with Hossfly. Fuck all you Jew-hating pieces of shit around here.

We're about 2 levels above you, and you can fuck right the hell off.

You are derp, next!

if your with agent hossfly,same as him,you're a traiter to america and our forefathers who faught for america and like him,have taken a shit on the constitution since that is what Israel does all the time.

Watch who you're calling a traitor before you experience karma.

 

[Indeependent]

Takes a lot of study either way...Torah and Science.
You should look at the Artscroll Talmudic Tractate Sanhedrin...Civilization knew astronomy very well.

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

Would you create universe of robot

Takes a lot of study either way...Torah and Science.
You should look at the Artscroll Talmudic Tractate Sanhedrin...Civilization knew astronomy very well.

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

As I stated previously, only God is not imperfect.
God exhibits no desire to have a relationship with a robot.
“Darkness” is inherent in order to appreciate “light”.

I meant not this. Why there is evil because of humans deeds and free will is quite understandable. By natural evil I meant storms, hurricanes, and other natural things which cause damages and deaths.

Based on The Soul of Life (Nefesh Hachaim), there are verses in the Prophets that state the moisture released by human speech affects the atmosphere.

Yeah, and this causes earthquakes, zunami and wild fire.

Earthquakes are a result of petty theft and fire is the result of idol worship and adultery.
Even physics recognizes that all electrons have an affect on all other electrons.

 

[Picaro]

Ah, I see LA Fan is having trouble attracting attention again for his speshul brand of retarded conspiracy theories.

Henry Ford is recognized as one of the great historians of all time.

Yes. And all religious people thought the earth was flat until the 20th century. Just never mind all those pics for thousands of years that show it as round. We can't get anything past LA Fan and other Aryan Jeenyuses.

Myth of the flat Earth - Wikipedia

 

[Street Juice]

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

Would you create universe of robot

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

As I stated previously, only God is not imperfect.
God exhibits no desire to have a relationship with a robot.
“Darkness” is inherent in order to appreciate “light”.

I meant not this. Why there is evil because of humans deeds and free will is quite understandable. By natural evil I meant storms, hurricanes, and other natural things which cause damages and deaths.

Based on The Soul of Life (Nefesh Hachaim), there are verses in the Prophets that state the moisture released by human speech affects the atmosphere.

Yeah, and this causes earthquakes, zunami and wild fire.

Earthquakes are a result of petty theft and fire is the result of idol worship and adultery.
Even physics recognizes that all electrons have an affect on all other electrons.

shoplifting causes earthquakes...

 

[Street Juice]

those pics for thousands of years that show it as round.

Pics... you mean like those in the Dec 4 - 11, 1288 Issue #655 of National Geographic?

 

[Picaro]

those pics for thousands of years that show it as round.

Pics... you mean like those in the Dec 4 - 11, 1288 Issue #655 of National Geographic?

Ah, I see we have a Speshul Ed student here who thinks pictures only come from cameras. Nobody ever had pics until cameras were invented, no sotne carvings, etc., no drawings, nothing. Good catch! Like I said, we can't get nothing past the Forth Reich's Brayne Trust.

 

[ESay]

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

Would you create universe of robot

Sanhedrin? Isnt it about judges and courts?

How did the natural evil come to existence?

As I stated previously, only God is not imperfect.
God exhibits no desire to have a relationship with a robot.
“Darkness” is inherent in order to appreciate “light”.

I meant not this. Why there is evil because of humans deeds and free will is quite understandable. By natural evil I meant storms, hurricanes, and other natural things which cause damages and deaths.

Based on The Soul of Life (Nefesh Hachaim), there are verses in the Prophets that state the moisture released by human speech affects the atmosphere.

Yeah, and this causes earthquakes, zunami and wild fire.

Earthquakes are a result of petty theft and fire is the result of idol worship and adultery.
Even physics recognizes that all electrons have an affect on all other electrons.

A sort of punishment. Which isn't too fair, to put it mildly.

 

[Indeependent]

Would you create universe of robot
As I stated previously, only God is not imperfect.
God exhibits no desire to have a relationship with a robot.
“Darkness” is inherent in order to appreciate “light”.

I meant not this. Why there is evil because of humans deeds and free will is quite understandable. By natural evil I meant storms, hurricanes, and other natural things which cause damages and deaths.

Based on The Soul of Life (Nefesh Hachaim), there are verses in the Prophets that state the moisture released by human speech affects the atmosphere.

Yeah, and this causes earthquakes, zunami and wild fire.

Earthquakes are a result of petty theft and fire is the result of idol worship and adultery.
Even physics recognizes that all electrons have an affect on all other electrons.

A sort of punishment. Which isn't too fair, to put it mildly.

Not punishment...action and consequence.
Atheists have created the concept of unwarranted punishment.

 

[ESay]

I meant not this. Why there is evil because of humans deeds and free will is quite understandable. By natural evil I meant storms, hurricanes, and other natural things which cause damages and deaths.

Based on The Soul of Life (Nefesh Hachaim), there are verses in the Prophets that state the moisture released by human speech affects the atmosphere.

Yeah, and this causes earthquakes, zunami and wild fire.

Earthquakes are a result of petty theft and fire is the result of idol worship and adultery.
Even physics recognizes that all electrons have an affect on all other electrons.

A sort of punishment. Which isn't too fair, to put it mildly.

Not punishment...action and consequence.
Atheists have created the concept of unwarranted punishment.

There is a logical chain which can be derived from it. Bad actions of people - earthquakes - God's will to enable this to happen. You can call it what you want but it certainly looks like punishment. Unfair punishment. And that isn't about atheists. I think there are plenty of people who believe in God, but who don't accept the explanation offered by some monotheistic religions.

 

[Indeependent]

Based on The Soul of Life (Nefesh Hachaim), there are verses in the Prophets that state the moisture released by human speech affects the atmosphere.

Yeah, and this causes earthquakes, zunami and wild fire.

Earthquakes are a result of petty theft and fire is the result of idol worship and adultery.
Even physics recognizes that all electrons have an affect on all other electrons.

A sort of punishment. Which isn't too fair, to put it mildly.

Not punishment...action and consequence.
Atheists have created the concept of unwarranted punishment.

There is a logical chain which can be derived from it. Bad actions of people - earthquakes - God's will to enable this to happen. You can call it what you want but it certainly looks like punishment. Unfair punishment. And that isn't about atheists. I think there are plenty of people who believe in God, but who don't accept the explanation offered by some monotheistic religions.

It’s called physics.
It takes a few years of cycling through the weekly Torah portion to get past the subjectivity aspect.
I went through it.
Sometimes it takes many years to have an epiphany.
It’s called life experience.

 

[ESay]

Yeah, and this causes earthquakes, zunami and wild fire.

Earthquakes are a result of petty theft and fire is the result of idol worship and adultery.
Even physics recognizes that all electrons have an affect on all other electrons.

A sort of punishment. Which isn't too fair, to put it mildly.

Not punishment...action and consequence.
Atheists have created the concept of unwarranted punishment.

There is a logical chain which can be derived from it. Bad actions of people - earthquakes - God's will to enable this to happen. You can call it what you want but it certainly looks like punishment. Unfair punishment. And that isn't about atheists. I think there are plenty of people who believe in God, but who don't accept the explanation offered by some monotheistic religions.

It’s called physics.
It takes a few years of cycling through the weekly Torah portion to get past the subjectivity aspect.
I went through it.
Sometimes it takes many years to have an epiphany.
It’s called life experience.

I wouldn't call it subjectivity but rather common sense.