Every Classroom Should Have Heavily Armed Teachers In It

[Canon Shooter]

You expect every teacher to carry a gun? That is extremely unrealistic. You wont find any support from the GOP with this weird idea of yours.

Who's said that every teacher should carry a gun?

 

[Mac-7]

You expect every teacher to carry a gun? That is extremely unrealistic. You wont find any support from the GOP with this weird idea of yours.

Biff is playing you for a sucker

He actually wants to take all the guns

 

[initforme]

If we are going to force teachers to carry them they should get extra pay.

 

[Godboy]

Who's said that every teacher should carry a gun?

The title of this thread.

 

[Godboy]

Biff is playing you for a sucker

He actually wants to take all the guns

I know exactly what he is doing. I just play along.

 

[Canon Shooter]

The title of this thread.

Duh. Mea culpa.

Gotta' claim a "senior moment" on that one...

 

[Devils_Advocate]

First off, Even though you are again mocking the tragedy which make you a sick individual like the monster that killed those kids I will answer your stupid mocking…

Next, You can not put firearms in a classroom because even if you are trained with combat zone training you can not just open fire at will in a classroom.

Why?

You have to have marksman aim and with a sidearm that is much harder than you realize and if you know anything about firearms you would know this!

So arming a teacher without war zone training is ludicrous and even if they have such training they would be doing other stuff first before opening fire on the suspect because you must fire make sure civilians are not in the way or you end up making mistakes!

Next, if you want true solutions then stop mocking the damn deaths and be serious for once!

You are not doing mind provoking commentary but you are being the typical piece of trash you are!

The monster had mental health issues and no Biff it was not from him wearing female clothing but deep rooted issues that lead him to killing adults and babies.

We need to focus on the root of why his mind snapped and caused him to do that!

Next, Schools should have two armed security officers with combat zone training that mean real combat zone training or ten years of police force duty that was street work!

Why?

They will know the risk factor of when to discharge their firearm ( usually ) and would be able to deal with something like this.

Schools should have two main doors to enter and exit from that allows a choke point to lock the monster in and keep them locked inside the entry way.

All classrooms should have a lockdown protocol which would lead to the doors being fireproof doors that will do a automatic locking and the windows will have a rolling shutter to roll over the windows.

All glass must be bulletproof!

Kids must be trained to know what to do by flipping their desks and using them as shield and not to go into the halls until cleared by police and staff.

Finally, losing someone in this incident make me closer too it than you, so remember this I invite you down here to mock those deaths to the parents faces and I want you to read your threads and tell them your true hate for all of them and how you do not care about their children deaths.

Before you tell me I should also do that to the right I invite them also and I want you guys to say your stupidity so the world can see your faces so you can not hide behind screens!

So what about it Biff you coming here or just going to hide behind your screen?

What is so funny Tommy Tainant ?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Texas schools can already arm teachers. Politicians may push for more after Uvalde tragedy

The state’s schools can opt into two programs that allow campus staff to arm themselves at school.

www.dallasnews.com

"Hours after Texas’ deadliest school shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, state Republicans called for efforts to harden schools and arm more teachers. “We can’t stop bad people from doing bad things,” Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said on Fox News. “We can potentially arm and prepare and train teachers and other administrators to respond quickly. That, in my opinion, is the best answer.” There’s no assurance that an employee with a handgun can halt a school shooting.

For instance, during the 2018 school shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida, an armed school resource officer never went inside the high school or attempted to engage the gunman during the attack. Reports are circulating that a school police officer was on campus at Robb Elementary on Tuesday. The officer exchanged gunfire with the shooter and was shot and injured."

Fact of the matter is, arming teachers is the most effective way at stopping the next school shooter....Yea, yea, I know...we have been busy demonizing public schools and teachers and accusing them of indoctrinating our kids and forcing kids to be trans and teaching them CRT -- but that was just political hyperbole, so put that aside for now.... Truth is, we can't trust teachers to not force our kids to be gay -- but we can totally trust them to carry a Glock 9mm on their hip during finger paints time.. Matter of fact, hand guns aren't enough....we need them to be armed to the T -- so it is vital they have either AR's or AK's in order to more effectively stop a mass shooter...that is why the officers that first engaged with the Uvalde shooter failed...Not enough firepower....They had a chance to stop the shooter before he even started -- and they failed....if they were armed with a grenade launcher, they could have blown up the truck the shooter was in a long time ago...

Which brings me to another point....why aren't we training these so-called professional law enforcement officers better? As more information has come out, we are hearing that the police waited over 40 minutes before they entered the school...that is 40 mins of time for this demon to murder 21 people....with a weapon that does so much damage that parents had to submit DNA samples and wait the longest fucking wait of their lives --- just to find out if it was their child or not.....

“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, Javier Cazares, whose fourth grade daughter, Jacklyn Cazares, was killed in the attack, said “Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to -- “They were unprepared,” he added."

Onlookers urged police to charge into Uvalde school as shooting broke out

UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman’s rampage killed 19 children and two...

www.dallasnews.com

Apparently, police waited up to 40 minutes or more before entering the school because they were waiting on a tactical team to show up....why waste SWAT's time when you could have an armed teacher in the classroom instead? That armed teacher and other armed teachers from other classrooms could have done a far better job than well-trained tactical SWAT units....as long as you are willing to overlook the fact they are teaching our kids to have gay sex orgies in the class and indoctrinating them with CRT and stuff...

So the answer to this is to arm a bunch of commie loving ,trans,crt groomers with guns ?

We can all remember the crazy teacher in school.I had a metalwork teacher whose nickname was "tinman". He was a fucking monster who used to throw lumps of metal at us if we got noisy. I would have shit myself if he had a gun.

The sensible answer is to close the schools down and educate the kids via zoom or a conservative equivalent.

School shootings would be reduced to zero overnight. The crazies could then move on to hospitals where their victims would be lying down in bed and easier to hit.

Any survivors would then be in the right place to get help. It is so important that the right to protect yourself is protected and that guns are not denied to any crazy fucker.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

What is so funny Tommy Tainant ?

You have put a lot of thought into this Bruce but it is a laughable solution. Your answer to gun violence id to turn schools into military compounds.
When you have done that the killers will find easier targets like churches or colleges or hospitals. It just goes on and on until you have recreated a frontier settlement in 2022.

But you do not tackle the actual problem. Its guns mate, the common link in every massacre..

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

So the answer to this is to arm a bunch of commie loving ,trans,crt groomers with guns ?

We can all remember the crazy teacher in school.I had a metalwork teacher whose nickname was "tinman". He was a fucking monster who used to throw lumps of metal at us if we got noisy. I would have shit myself if he had a gun.

The sensible answer is to close the schools down and educate the kids via zoom or a conservative equivalent.

School shootings would be reduced to zero overnight. The crazies could then move on to hospitals where their victims would be lying down in bed and easier to hit.

Any survivors would then be in the right place to get help. It is so important that the right to protect yourself is protected and that guns are not denied to any crazy fucker.

There are measures you can put in place before we reach the point of arming teachers....but in Texas, there are over 150 school districts where teachers can already be armed...if that helps to stop a mass shooter, so be it.....


But I think there are more tools in the tool box other than arming teachers and in some cases, the students themselves...

 

[Devils_Advocate]

You have put a lot of thought into this Bruce but it is a laughable solution. Your answer to gun violence id to turn schools into military compounds.
When you have done that the killers will find easier targets like churches or colleges or hospitals. It just goes on and on until you have recreated a frontier settlement in 2022.

But you do not tackle the actual problem. Its guns mate, the common link in every massacre..

And you have no clue what it takes to pass gun legislation or repeal the second amendment.

All of you say rid the world of guns must also remember the country you are screaming at has a constitution and you must do things properly or they can not be done.

So give me a real solution that you can get passed with the Government we have and not your idealistic way of thinking!

 

[Tommy Tainant]

And you have no clue what it takes to pass gun legislation or repeal the second amendment.

All of you say rid the world of guns must also remember the country you are screaming at has a constitution and you must do things properly or they can not be done.

So give me a real solution that you can get passed with the Government we have and not your idealistic way of thinking!

Its a huge problem Bruce. But you have to start somewhere.
Why do you allow politicians who are sponsored by the gun lobby to vote on gun issues. In the UK we call it a conflict of interest and they cannot vote.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

You have put a lot of thought into this Bruce but it is a laughable solution. Your answer to gun violence id to turn schools into military compounds.
When you have done that the killers will find easier targets like churches or colleges or hospitals. It just goes on and on until you have recreated a frontier settlement in 2022.

But you do not tackle the actual problem. Its guns mate, the common link in every massacre..

Also you have no clue how secured Hospitals and Colleges are here in the States seeing Colleges have armed security and police on campus along with the Hospitals having the same thing, so no those would not be the next target.

Church shootings are possible along with Store Shootings are more likely than a College or Hospital, so before you lecture me offer me in detail what can prevent shootings while understanding the second amendment will not be removed in today current political environment…

Also let me add for you that the Second Amendment can and has been limited and if anyone want a quick history lesson look up what it take to own a Uzi!

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Its a huge problem Bruce. But you have to start somewhere.
Why do you allow politicians who are sponsored by the gun lobby to vote on gun issues. In the UK we call it a conflict of interest and they cannot vote.

Got to get laws passed limiting that and both sides are unwilling to do it because the Lobbyists control the Senate, House, Oval Office and both big parties and MSM, so they set the narrative and We the People will do nothing to buck the system…

So you must realize many have no option, well I do and I have taken steps and that is leaving this Nation for good!

 

[iceberg]

We Americans love our band aids.

"Put heavily-armed guards in our schools!" - So they switch to churches
"Put heavily-armed guards in our churches!" - So they switch to sporting events
"Put heavily-armed guards in our sporting events!" - So they switch to malls

America becomes a fucking prison, because we're so fucking intellectually lazy.

We're afraid to address the reasons behind our problems because that would take too much fucking work. And we might actually have to work together to fix them, horror of horrors. We can no longer do THAT. NO WAY. MY TRIBE IS TOO SMART FOR THE OTHER TRIBE.

so, what is your answer? screaming the other side is stupid doesn't work. agreed.

now what?

 

[iceberg]

You have put a lot of thought into this Bruce but it is a laughable solution. Your answer to gun violence id to turn schools into military compounds.
When you have done that the killers will find easier targets like churches or colleges or hospitals. It just goes on and on until you have recreated a frontier settlement in 2022.

But you do not tackle the actual problem. Its guns mate, the common link in every massacre..

the common link is a mental asshole willing to do this.

in every one.

 

[Mac1958]

so, what is your answer? screaming the other side is stupid doesn't work. agreed.

now what?

21 to buy a gun. 21 to use a gun in the army. From 18-21, give them other jobs to do.
Then we clean up background checks.
Then we work on improving a culture that is so ugly and violent that it turns troubled, lonely, isolated young people into mass murderers.
This is an all-of-the-above, all hands on deck issue that should transcend ideology. I'm doubtful it will.

I've been saying all along this is a cultural issue. I actually say that about MOST of our problems.
Smart, reasonable background checks are fine. Let's do that. But look at the other things in which our young people are immersed: The internet, hyper-violent video games, violent music, violent movies, coarse entertainment, a general lowering of standards at every fucking opportunity.
I'm sick of band aids, and I'm sick of us looking for one simple thing to point at. This is an "all of the above" task. But America can no longer fix big problems, because our fucking tribal politics get in the way.
Just another example of why I'm now a one-issue voter: We have to change our political/electoral system before we can advance.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

There are measures you can put in place before we reach the point of arming teachers....but in Texas, there are over 150 school districts where teachers can already be armed...if that helps to stop a mass shooter, so be it.....


But I think there are more tools in the tool box other than arming teachers and in some cases, the students themselves...

I agree with Biff.

 

[whitehall]

Republicans want teachers to have the option of having a weapon and lefties translate it to "heavily armed". That's an example of subtle propaganda and it's unrelenting on the left.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Republicans want teachers to have the option of having a weapon and lefties translate it to "heavily armed". That's an example of subtle propaganda and it's unrelenting on the left.

But Republicans think a teacher carrying this book is more dangerous than a mass shooter carrying an A-K..so much so, they banned it...the book...not the A-K