Even more Americans now carry guns for self defense......more than 19.4 million Americans have concealed carry permits.

2aguy

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Another good thing........armed people are free people...which is why china puppet, joe biden, and the democrats are going to attack gun owners if they win in November...

During President Trump’s administration, the number of concealed handgun permits has soared to over 19.48 million – a 34% increase over 2016. However, while gun sales have set records in 2020, the growth in concealed handgun permits has slowed as many states shutdown their issuance of new permits. Unlike gun ownership surveys that may be affected by people’s unwillingness to answer personal questions, concealed handgun permit data is the only really “hard data” that we have. Seventeen states no longer provide data on all the people who are legally carrying a concealed handgun because people in those states no longer need a permit to carry.

 
And every time we put it on, we're halfway to prison right there.

The sort of control freaks who became government officials absolutely hate and despise free people and they will try their damnedest to put you in prison for life if you so much as show it to someone accosting you and tell them to go away. Gods forbid you have to actually shoot someone.... life as you know it is over, forever, right then.
 
Guns and guitars.
Every pawn shop is sold out of both.

My local pawn shops all have guitars. Not the greatest of brands, but there's enough out there to make a pawn-shop-hopping trip potentially worthwhile...
Well, maybe people need money again but since the China flu I've noticed a huge difference
in this area. Used amps, guitars, effects thinned out everywhere.
 
One does not have to be a Nostradamus to predict that gun ownership will continue to grow in the growing decades, laws or no.

As the demographics continue their rapid change, more and more people are going to become concerned about their personal safety.

Some people sincerely believe that the United States of America has a bright future.

Other people (including me) respectfully disagree. The "new" United States that is emerging will be totally dysfunctional. As many a wise person has observed, a country is only as good as the character of its people.
 
I believe our legislators need to do their job.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.
 
Libyans were allowed to own weapons under Gaddafi.
Of course he wanted his own gold-backed currency so we helped NATO destroy him.
Now Libya is a terrorist-run disaster zone and the people are starving and being turned into slaves. Thanks Hillary and Obama !

Anyway, carry on.
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Libyans were allowed to own weapons under Gaddafi.
Of course he wanted his own gold-backed currency so we helped NATO destroy him.
Now Libya is a terrorist-run disaster zone and the people are starving and being turned into slaves. Thanks Hillary and Obama !

Anyway, carry on.
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In right wing fantasy, you are always Right.

In early 2011, a civil war broke out in the context of the wider "Arab Spring". The rebel anti-Gaddafi forces formed a committee named the National Transitional Council on 27 February 2011. It was meant to act as an interim authority in the rebel-controlled areas. After killings by government forces[6] in addition to those by the rebel forces,[7] a multinational coalition led by NATO forces intervened on 21 March 2011 in support of the rebels.[8][9][10] The International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant against Gaddafi and his entourage on 27 June 2011.--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Libya_under_Muammar_Gaddafi
 
Libyans were allowed to own weapons under Gaddafi.
Of course he wanted his own gold-backed currency so we helped NATO destroy him.
Now Libya is a terrorist-run disaster zone and the people are starving and being turned into slaves. Thanks Hillary and Obama !

Anyway, carry on.
:th_Back_2_Topic_2:
In right wing fantasy, you are always Right.

In early 2011, a civil war broke out in the context of the wider "Arab Spring". The rebel anti-Gaddafi forces formed a committee named the National Transitional Council on 27 February 2011. It was meant to act as an interim authority in the rebel-controlled areas. After killings by government forces[6] in addition to those by the rebel forces,[7] a multinational coalition led by NATO forces intervened on 21 March 2011 in support of the rebels.[8][9][10] The International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant against Gaddafi and his entourage on 27 June 2011.--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Libya_under_Muammar_Gaddafi

James & Joanne Moriarty were successful independent business operators, selling their unique oil well restoration system throughout Libya for many years. They established close personal relationships during the time they spent there and understand Libyan culture and customs intimately. General Michael Flynn has said they've provided the best intelligence the U.S. has received. The story they tell is vastly different than what you have heard. Their detailed account of unmitigated evil will chill you to your soul. The harassment they have been subjected to since their return to Texas will frighten you beyond words.


Visit James and Joanne's Website – www.http://libyanwarthetruth.com/ Visit Operation Classified – https://www.operationclassified.com/
 
We were business people doing business in Libya since 2007 January. We made a unique enzyme that rejuvenates oil wells and cleans up sludge pits, cleans out pipelines and tanks and does a whole lot of neat things to oil. We booked a huge amount of business in Libya from 2007 to 2011: 5 billion dollars worth of our product. We signed a JV with the Social Security Investment Fund of Janzour near Tripoli, Libya. We actively began to build a production facility to fulfill these contracts for our enzyme when the so called Libyan revolution began in February of 2011.

I would like to note that the Libyan people were not in any way extremist Muslims. The part of the Koran that was added by the Ayatollah Khomeini talking about killing infidels was thrown out of Libya by Ghadafi because he said it was not part of the Koran. For this there was a fatwa or death order put on Ghadafi for over 20 years by the radical extremist Muslims. All religions with a book were allowed in Libya. Women were emancipated in the 1970’s by Ghadafi. No special clothing were required and all women were highly educated if they choose to be. They were doctors, lawyers, ministers, business owners, or just house wives whatever they decided.

Libya shared ½ of all of its oil revenue with its 5.5 million population. All medical care was free, if you could not get the care you needed in Libya then you could travel wherever you needed with a family member and all costs and expenses were fully paid. Education was free and if you wanted to go outside to another University that was paid in full with a stipend. When a Libyan couple got married they received a $46,000 gift from the government to start their lives. Their first home, a 2500 sq foot condominium cost 10% of their salary for 20 years and then it was theirs. Gasoline was 44 cents a gallon, all utilities were free. If you were hungry and had no money they had huge stores of food where you could get rice, milk, cheese, flour and money to buy meat. The average salary in Libya was the highest in Africa, higher than China or India at $15,800 a year. If you had a college education and could not find a job you received that money until you found a job.

The Libyan people were happy, there was no tax, only businesses had some tax but it was minimal. The government shared the wealth of Libya with its people, there was no taxing of the people to support the state. There was no reason for a revolution, there were some disgruntled radical Islamists who had tried to enforce Sharia law and radical Islam upon Libya to no avail because they only made up about 3 to 5%. These are the people NATO and the US joined hands with to take over Libya. In April of 2011 we were invited to travel to Tripoli on an NGO Fact Finding Commission. We agreed and in May of 2011 we traveled to Tripoli, Libya to take part in this Fact Finding Commission. We spent a whole lot of time with the Tribes of Libya learning about the truths of Libya and their government. We also were witness to huge war crimes committed by NATO upon the innocent people of Libya.

Because there was no popular support for this so called revolution in Libya, it was necessary for NATO, the US, UK, France, UN, Qatar and Israel to funnel in thousands of Al Qaeda mercenaries into Libya. We are witnesses to the hordes of terrorists, that were armed, funded and trained by the aforementioned group. We have in our hands the private document written in Hebrew that is an agreement between the would be rebels and the Mossad. The agreement states that Israel will provide arms and training to the rebels until they take over the country and in return for that Israel will get to put a military base in the green mountain area of Libya.

The war against Libya had been planned for a long time. Dennis Kucinich held the documents that showed that there were war games in the Mediterranean with the French, UK and US against a mythical North Africa oil rich dictator nation. This was supposed to start on the 21st of February. The war actually started on the 17th of February. The main reason for the destruction of Libya was the gold backed currency for the continent of Africa called the Dinar. Gold, Oil, Africa and Why the West Wants Gadhafi Dead

Ghadafi had planned the African bank and with the formation of this bank Libya was leading Africa to freedom: Freedom from the paper bankers, the imperialists that controlled the poor countries and their assets. This gold backed currency would have destroyed the paper bankers whose money is backed by nothing. Those paper bankers, the FED and the EURO owned by the Rothschild group would have been destroyed. For this reason Ghadafi had to not only fall from power but he had to die. If he had gone into exile, his mouth would still work.

The second reason for the Libyan war was AFRICOM, the US military control of Africa. Libya was the strongest country in Africa and Libya refused to ever let the US take military control over them. The third reason was the lawsuit that had been filed by Ghadafi (Libya) against all the Western European nations for all the broken treaties and all the atrocities committed in Africa over hundreds of years by the Western Europeans and the loss of revenue caused by the embargo against Libya for 30+ years. It should be noted that Libya was not guilty of the Lockerbie bombing as proven by a CIA whistle blower http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/03/04/lockerbie-diary-gadhaffi-fall-gu...

This law suit was for $7 + trillion dollars and it had legs. Western Europe could ill afford this kind of debt so they happily joined in the destruction of the sovereign nation of Libya The 21st of August NATO decided that they had waited long enough for the Libyan people to get behind their coup d’état so they forcibly took Tripoli. We were a big hotel near the seaport. We saw NATO bring in their Apache helicopters and mow down the innocent people in the streets. In the first hour of NATO’s takeover of Tripoli 1300 people were killed in the streets and 5000 wounded. NATO also ran bombing raids, used big guns mounted on small pickup trucks.

The bombing and killing went on all night and for the next three nights. Next shiploads of Al Qaeda rebels flowed into the Tripoli port from Benghazi and unloaded on the roads around Tripoli. All of the people were bearded and carried AK-47’s. As they rode around Tripoli in their caravans they began to set up check points every 500 yards or so. They looted every store and every home they could get into, they broke into every vehicle and stole everything that they wanted. They took over hotels and set up torture centers. The Russian Ambassador had called and offered to put our name on a list on a rescue ship that was being sent from the Prime Minister of Malta. We were approached by a couple other westerners and asked how we planned to get out of Libya. We said we were trying to get on the rescue ship sent by Malta, they asked if they could join us and we said we would ask that their names be put on the list. The FIFA soccer coach for Libya from Germany joined us, the sister of the President of Mauritania, a Baharani Prince, a man from Texas that we did not know before and a Filipino lady who had been working at the hotel.

We arranged ourselves on the van from the hotel and left in the late afternoon to meet the ship that was supposed to be arriving in one of the ports along the Tripoli coast. We were stopped at every check point by bearded Al Qaeda firing their AK-47’s into the air and yelling Allah Akbar. Our driver told them that we were journalists in Arabic so they let us through because the media had been lying about the rebels so they were happy to let us through. We could not find the ship, after some hours of up and down the coast it was now dark. Guns were being fired everywhere, Al Qaeda bearded types roamed the streets. We did not know it but the rebels had fired on the ship and it was 3 miles out in the Mediterranean. Our last trip to the pier was our downfall. We were suddenly surrounded by a group of small pickup trucks and out climbed a bunch of Al Qaeda with their guns pointed at us and they said “your game is up”. They took us at gunpoint to their torture center which had been the Radisson Hotel.

They took all of our belongings and our passports. They interrogated us and filmed it using a British film crew. We could hear the men being tortured but we could do nothing. Finally after many hours and it was now day light, they said we were going to be allowed to go. Right before that a big fat Sheik with a long beard came in and look down his nose and said something in Arabic at us. The driver to our van had been changed to a man we knew from the hotel and we said we wanted to go to the rescue ship now, he said this van is going back to the hotel, we argued with him but he pulled us aside and said “What you did not understand that Sheik say was: “When they go to the rescue ship, kill them, chop them up and burn the bodies and blame in on Ghadafi”. We decided to go back to the hotel. We had to pay all of our last money to the mercenaries so that they would let us go, they were paid $2500 for each person they killed and $1000 to burn the bodies. That took all of our money.

We knew that we were on their list and we knew why, a US attorney, double spy working for Hezbollah had put all of our names on a list and sent it to them. The next miracle was a friend of the sister of the President of Mauritania had a friend that was in charge of the IOM (Immigration) ship. They were able to sneak us on that ship to Benghazi the next day. That saved our lives because we know that the Al Qaeda mercenaries were looking for us so that they could get paid again. The ship ride was the ride from hell. It took 2 days in massive heat, no a/c, windows all around the seated area, no food except hot water, moldy bread and outdated juice cartons that caused everyone to use the bathroom. There were probably 300 to 400 refugees on the ship and there was 2 bathrooms. Our friend from the IOM took charge of us in Benghazi and took us to a hotel. Lucky for us the list with our name had not reached Benghazi because the communications were down.

One of the heads of the Rebels came to the hotel because he heard we were there. He was impressed that we had a Baharani Prince with us and bought us dinner, we had not eaten for 4 days. He was able to put us a plane out of Benghazi (even though the rest of Libya was under a no fly zone). We walked out on a pitch black tarmac, boarded a raggedy 727 that took off on a black tarmac. We flew low over to Tunis and landed about 4:30. The story was really just beginning but at least we were somewhat free of the Al Qaeda rebels. After we arrived back in Texas, Jimmy was taken by the FBI at the Houston Airport passport check center. I was allowed to pass through and I was the one with the 200 GB of proof, interviews, videos, photos, testimonies, etc. He was interrogated for 3 hours. We were to learn at a later time that we were targeted by our government at that time. Our crime was that we were witnesses to the war crimes and genocides that were committed in Libya by the NATO gang. As targeted Individuals all attempts to obtain gainful employment or restart our business that was blown up in Libya have been thwarted.

After NATO handed Libya over to Al Qaeda, many Libyans were imprisoned, tortured and killed. Many of them left so that they could survive. There are now 2 million in exile. We are very close to the Tribes of Libya, we speak with the tribal leaders in exile now almost every day. They have appointed us as their official spokespersons. We have been attempting to make it known to our congress that they were completely wrong footed in Libya and that we basically had handed Libya, a peaceful Muslim country, over to Al Qaeda. No one was interested. The tribal leaders began to pass intelligence regarding the internal movement of Al Qaeda inside Libya, we started passing this information to Dr. Jerome Corsi who was more than willing to report the truth. We were then contacted by US intelligence (4 different divisions).

We have had 3 different divisions of the US intelligence in our home, getting intelligence from our tribal leaders. But we have discovered that they have no intention of doing anything with the information and the intel was being used to warn Al Qaeda not stop it, so we stopped passing the information. One of the intelligence people was a lady; she called us after she left and told us that if we ever wanted a life we needed to shut up about Libya and that they (the government) had done a “soft” attack on us (ruined our life and finances) and that we were lucky because they could have chosen to do a “terminal” attack on us. We have been literally destroyed, but we have decided to open our mouths and not shut them. We realize the only way to protect ourselves is by getting our story out to the most people possible. We will be homeless next month as we have no more assets to sell and cannot pay our expenses. We are hoping to start giving presentations and sharing our story with paid honorariums; in that process we will hope to find good people who might like to hire two very production, intelligent and talented people.
 
Libyans were allowed to own weapons under Gaddafi.
Of course he wanted his own gold-backed currency so we helped NATO destroy him.
Now Libya is a terrorist-run disaster zone and the people are starving and being turned into slaves. Thanks Hillary and Obama !

Anyway, carry on.
:th_Back_2_Topic_2:
In right wing fantasy, you are always Right.

In early 2011, a civil war broke out in the context of the wider "Arab Spring". The rebel anti-Gaddafi forces formed a committee named the National Transitional Council on 27 February 2011. It was meant to act as an interim authority in the rebel-controlled areas. After killings by government forces[6] in addition to those by the rebel forces,[7] a multinational coalition led by NATO forces intervened on 21 March 2011 in support of the rebels.[8][9][10] The International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant against Gaddafi and his entourage on 27 June 2011.--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Libya_under_Muammar_Gaddafi

James & Joanne Moriarty were successful independent business operators, selling their unique oil well restoration system throughout Libya for many years. They established close personal relationships during the time they spent there and understand Libyan culture and customs intimately. General Michael Flynn has said they've provided the best intelligence the U.S. has received. The story they tell is vastly different than what you have heard. Their detailed account of unmitigated evil will chill you to your soul. The harassment they have been subjected to since their return to Texas will frighten you beyond words.


Visit James and Joanne's Website – www.http://libyanwarthetruth.com/ Visit Operation Classified – https://www.operationclassified.com/

Despite receiving extensive aid and technical assistance from the Soviet Union and its allies, Gaddafi retained close ties to pro-American governments in Western Europe, largely by courting Western oil companies with promises of access to lucrative Libyan energy sectors. After the 9/11 attacks, strained relations between Libya and the West were mostly normalised, and sanctions against the country relaxed, in exchange for nuclear disarmament.
 
A chart......more people carrying guns for self defense does not increase the crime rate......

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ccw concealed carry vs murder rate chart

Courtesy Crime Prevention Research Center

John Lott has published his Concealed Carry Permit Holders Across the United States: 2020 and there’s lots of good news in it.

 

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