Even If Classified Documents Were Recovered In Trump Raid, It Looks Like Chances Of Conviction Are Quite Slim

[easyt65]

So if he’s not above the law, why wouldn’t the FBI search his house for government documents he refused to turn over?

Why would the FBI participate in Hillary's and Obama's failed coup attempt when they had already conducted their own internal investigation and found nothing to it?

Why would the FBI violate the Patriot Act, Defrauded the FISA Court, and illegally spy on Americans and the Presidrnt after they already knew there was nothing to Hillary's Russian Collusion scam?

Why would the FBI disobey a lawful Presidential order to declassify Crossfore Hurricane and release the info?

Find / come to grips with those answers and you will have the answer to your own question.

 

[easyt65]

Durham hasn’t claimed they abused their power.

LIAR - it's in the article I posted.

 

[easyt65]

Durham hasn’t claimed they abused their power. You did. Did you make it up?

"the FBI agents and officials who were involved in the raid on former President Trump’s home work in the same CounterIntelligence Division of the FBI that investigated Trump in the Russiagate hoax and are actively under criminal investigation by Special Counsel John Durham for potentially abusing their power investigating Trump in the Russian fraud and therefore have a potential conflict of interest"

FEEL FREE TO ADMIT YOU JUST LIED ... AGAIN ... AND APOLOGIZE....IF NOT, F* YOU, LYING SNOWFLAKE!

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[Marener]

Why would the FBI participate in Hillary's and Obama's failed coup attempt when they had already conducted their own internal investigation and found nothing to it?

Why would the FBI violate the Patriot Act, Defrauded the FISA Court, and illegally spy on Americans and the Presidrnt after they already knew there was nothing to Hillary's Russian Collusion scam?

Why would the FBI disobey a lawful Presidential order to declassify Crossfore Hurricane and release the info?

Find / come to grips with those answers and you will have the answer to your own question.

Trump had government documents. He refused to give them back.

The FBI searched his house to get them back.

What’s the big deal?

 

[easyt65]

Trump had government documents. He refused to give them back.

The FBI searched his house to get them back.

What’s the big deal?

Other than you were just proven to be a lying snowflake...?

 

[Peach45]

In the warrant (LINK), the laws allegedly broken are included....

"All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or
other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 793, 2071 , or 1519

Here are links to the three statutes...

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 1519 - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy

www.law.cornell.edu

I am not a lawyer, but my read is that it will difficult to prove violation of these statutes, even if classified material was actually seized, for the reasoning I include below (my opinions, not cut and pasted or researched anywhere).

You Biden supporters and/or Trump haters can let me know why I am wrong.

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information​

Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation...

This statute requires that the person not only be in possession of the material, but that they person believes the material is to be used for injury to the US. No one, even Trump haters with a brain, would think that Trump was going to use the material to cause damage to the United States. What was Trump planning to do, sell nuclear secrets to Kim Jong Un in exchange for billions of dollars? Release the rcords to the NYT to damage the reputation of the US? Doesn't seem credible.

18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally​

Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so

This statute requires willful intent. So if Team Trump did not know there was classified material in the boxes, it would appear to be a successful defense against any relevant charge. Also, if there was no concealment or attempt to destroy, and Team Trump had told the FBI to come and get the material anytime it wanted to, like Trump has posted on Truth Social, then there would be no violation...
View attachment 681946

18 U.S. Code § 1519 - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy​

Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter

This statute also requires intent. It's relevance is probably that it has been reported that Trump's lawyer signed a statement saying there was no classified material at Mar-A-Lago in June....

Trump's lawyer told the DOJ that ALL classified docs were returned

One of the lawyers working for Former President Donald Trump signed a written statement in June confirming that all classified material had been returned to the government.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If that signed statement was believed to be true at the time, there is no violation of this statute.

Opinions?

The DOJ and FBI dont care about a conviction. Its the ARREST they want. To walk him out in handcuffs, with CNN crews on scene, to provide that image for eternity. His trial will go far beyond the 2024 primaries, and he’ll be way too old in 2028, after his trial.

Thus, the simple arrest itself means he’ll never be president again.

I dont want him to win ever again, but we should be able to vote against him. Using law enforcement to hand pick our POTUS candidates is WRONG

 

[Peach45]

Corrupted Dimm Neo-Marxists are aiming for felony head shots of espionage and/or sedition on Trump.
Being the mobsters that they are, I believe that they will deliver it!

As Mark Levine so keenly observes, WE ARE LIVING IN A POST-CONSTITUTIONAL ERA!!!

Im a liberal but I have to agree. It’s dangerous what’s happening. We cannot let non elected federal law enforcement hand pick our POTUS candidates by shaky indictments against those that they dont approve off.

All they want is the arrest, to provide the media with the eternally existing image of the perp walk in handcuffs. His trial will last far beyond the primary and hes too old for 2028. So they get an arrest and regardless of guilt its all over for his presidential hopes.

 

[Marener]

Other than you were just proven to be a lying snowflake...?

I didn’t lie.

You’re avoiding the question because you don’t have an answer.

 

[Marener]

"the FBI agents and officials who were involved in the raid on former President Trump’s home work in the same CounterIntelligence Division of the FBI that investigated Trump in the Russiagate hoax and are actively under criminal investigation by Special Counsel John Durham for potentially abusing their power investigating Trump in the Russian fraud and therefore have a potential conflict of interest"

FEEL FREE TO ADMIT YOU JUST LIED ... AGAIN ... AND APOLOGIZE....IF NOT, F* YOU, LYING SNOWFLAKE!

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You decided not to include the full quote.

SOURCES SAY the FBI agents…

That’s not John Durham saying it. It’s “sources”.

 

[basquebromance]

Memo to Merrick Garland If you studied law, likely not, you would know 1988 Supreme Court MAJORITY Ruling, US Navy vs. Egan.

The President has the authority as Commander in Chief to classify and “declassify” documents.

This was a political hit job!

 

[iceberg]

Who ignored Hillary? There was a very thorough investigation.

And she didn't intend to break the law.

Trump gets same courtesy... Now kindly fuck off.

 

[Marener]

And she didn't intend to break the law.

Trump gets same courtesy... Now kindly fuck off.

Of course he gets the same courtesy. He got a ton of courtesy.

The National Archives asked for their material back. They didn’t get it.

The FBI asked. Nope.

The DoJ subpoenaed him. Still no.

So a search warrant it is. Trump had tons of opportunities. He chose to fuck around and so he gets to find out.

 

[iceberg]

Of course he gets the same courtesy. He got a ton of courtesy.

The National Archives asked for their material back. They didn’t get it.

The FBI asked. Nope.

The DoJ subpoenaed him. Still no.

So a search warrant it is. Trump had tons of opportunities. He chose to fuck around and so he gets to find out.

Well then he should have shredded all the docs, set them on fire and destroy them and claim yoga talk.

 

[Mac1958]

Of course he gets the same courtesy. He got a ton of courtesy.

The National Archives asked for their material back. They didn’t get it.

The FBI asked. Nope.

The DoJ subpoenaed him. Still no.

So a search warrant it is. Trump had tons of opportunities. He chose to fuck around and so he gets to find out.

Remember the Fifth Avenue Rule. He can do anything he wants, he can remain above the law, no matter what. He can make a mockery of our laws, our institutions, of our country, of anything, and they're fine with it.

Because Hillary. That's it.

 

[Marener]

Well then he should have shredded all the docs, set them on fire and destroy them and claim yoga talk.

And he would have done so knowing they were classified government documents which would have made it illegal.

 

[iceberg]

And he would have done so knowing they were classified government documents which would have made it illegal.

As did Hillary.

 

[Marener]

As did Hillary.

Clinton told her lawyer to submit the government related emails and asked her what to do with the rest. She said delete it.

There’s a problem saying she knowingly deleted anything.

 

[easyt65]

I didn’t lie.

You’re avoiding the question because you don’t have an answer.

You're avoiding the FACT that you lied. You claimed Trump colluded with Russians and proved you could not support your LIE.

Your attempted projection / distraction fails to change that fact. SInce you refuse to own up to it and have nothing believable to add it will be easy to ignore you.

 

[Marener]

.You claimed Trump colluded with Russians and proved you could not support your LIE.

Huh? You must be thinking of someone else.

 

[B. Kidd]

Im a liberal but I have to agree. It’s dangerous what’s happening. We cannot let non elected federal law enforcement hand pick our POTUS candidates by shaky indictments against those that they dont approve off.

All they want is the arrest, to provide the media with the eternally existing image of the perp walk in handcuffs. His trial will last far beyond the primary and hes too old for 2028. So they get an arrest and regardless of guilt its all over for his presidential hopes.

Well put.
A sane analysis!!