EU may break up in next 15 years: CIA

[Zhukov]

EU may break up in next 15 years: CIA
Indo-Asian News Service

Washington, January 17, 2005|22:08 IST

The European Union (EU) may break up within 15 years as a result of its member countries being dragged down by unsustainable welfare programmes, a US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) report says.

The report, says UPI, warns that by 2020, Europe could be thrown into economic decline by its aging population.

Restrictive labour policies, a drop in birth rates and increased longevity would have devastating economic consequences for Europe, the CIA report says.

"The current EU welfare state is unsustainable and the lack of any economic revitalisation could lead to the splintering or, at worst, disintegration of the EU, undermining its ambitions to play a heavyweight international role."

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1202233,00050001.htm

 

[Avatar4321]

There's a big suprise. I think im going to have a heart attack and die from that surprise.

It will likely collapse and collapse big.

 

[dmp]

...one can only hope.

(sigh)

 

[no1tovote4]

There's a big suprise. I think im going to have a heart attack and die from that surprise.

It will likely collapse and collapse big.

No, they will expect the US to pull their asses from the fire. They will get seriously upset when we will not supplement them with our tax dollars. Crying will insue and much whining about how we are the "richest nation" with no real idea that we got there because we DON'T BUY EVERYTHING FOR EVERYBODY.

 

[onedomino]

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[drlin]

EU will probably go down, but another reason.... you'll see in a couple of years... but it will be before 2010....

 

[taff]

Well i can only speak for the UK but we have more people in work now than in our history.Good old Tony Blair really sorted things out. Financialy things have never looked so good.Thats why the tories wont get a sniff in the next elections.

 

[Adam's Apple]

Three cheers for Tony Blair! A real leader for his country and a man of courage to boot!

 

[Said1]

EU will probably go down, but another reason.... you'll see in a couple of years... but it will be before 2010....

No, tell me now.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

EU will probably go down, but another reason.... you'll see in a couple of years... but it will be before 2010....

Yeah. Tell us now or just don't bring it up, anus-head.

 

[no1tovote4]

EU will probably go down, but another reason.... you'll see in a couple of years... but it will be before 2010....

What a sage! A prediction with no basis of structure. If it doesn't come true you can always say that it will happen in a couple more years, or a couple more after that because the mysterious happening is still in waiting.

:rotflmao:

Come on give us the straight info man!

 

[Said1]

What a sage! A prediction with no basis of structure. If it doesn't come true you can always say that it will happen in a couple more years, or a couple more after that because the mysterious happening is still in waiting.

:rotflmao:

Come on give us the straight info man!

Seems like he joined the ranks of other disappearing frenchmen.

 

[dilloduck]

Seems like he joined the ranks of other disappearing frenchmen.

Where ya hiding the bodies?

 

[no1tovote4]

Seems like he joined the ranks of other disappearing frenchmen.

Nah, he's looking up the Nostradamus quatrains that make the least sense and therefore can be associated to nearly anything at all. Oh wait, that's all of them!

 

[Said1]

Where ya hiding the bodies?

Me?

 

[dilloduck]

Me?

ya---the one with all the holes in her backyard !! :firing:

 

[drlin]

What a sage! A prediction with no basis of structure. If it doesn't come true you can always say that it will happen in a couple more years, or a couple more after that because the mysterious happening is still in waiting.

:rotflmao:

Come on give us the straight info man!

simple, just look at how the EU governments take on the security of their contries.... at least the US have made some changes in their laws to secure things a bit.. (I'm not saying they did not over-do it, but at least they tried something)

but, the EU governments are NOT doing anything. we can expect some changes in the next year in how things are going on in the streets...

you may not have heard, but there was a fight between gangs members two month ago in Paris in the "Champ des Elisee"( which is THE biggest street in Paris that leds to the 'Arc de Triomphe", and about 200 meters from where you can find l'"Elysée" (the equivalent of the White House in France)) and two persons were killed. In full day, around 5PM!

Now imagine this happening 200 meters from the White House, do you think this would happen?

I mean, if we don't get something similar to a civil war, or serious terrorist attack in France or in the EU in the followings years, well... I'll have to pay a bottle of champagne to all the members of this board!

 

[Said1]

you may not have heard, but there was a fight between gangs members two month ago in Paris in the "Champ des Elisee"( which is THE biggest street in Paris that leds to the 'Arc de Triomphe", and about 200 meters from where you can find l'"Elysée" (the equivalent of the White House in France)) and two persons were killed. In full day, around 5PM

Wow, do you have any links for that story?

 

[drlin]

Wow, do you have any links for that story?

had a link, but the French government is good at cleaning things, like others...

here's the story in French :

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« La violence venue de banlieue gagne la capitale »
CHRISTOPHE CARESCHE, adjoint au maire chargé de la sécurité à Paris

AU LENDEMAIN de la mort de Zakaria Babamou, 18 ans, poignardé au rond-point des Champs-Elysées samedi soir, l'élu demande une « meilleure sécurisation » sur la célèbre avenue sans pour autant en faire un « sanctuaire ». Un jeune homme a été mortellement poignardé sur ce qui est considéré comme la plus belle avenue du monde. N'est-ce pas aussi la conséquence d'un changement dans les fréquentations habituelles de ce lieu symbolique ? Christophe Caresche.
L'avenue des Champs-Elysées est - par définition et légitimement - un lieu de très forte attractivité et de rassemblement pour les jeunes de banlieue. Ils y trouvent tout ce qu'ils aiment : cinémas, restaurants et surtout une ambiance unique qu'ils ne trouvent qu'ici. Si autant de jeunes s'y rassemblent, c'est aussi parce que les transports en commun leur donnent cette facilité d'accès. Mais il est vrai que l'on constate, depuis quelque temps, des manifestations de violences bien plus importantes à Paris que dans le passé. Cela permet de relativiser les communiqués de victoire de la préfecture de police sur la baisse de la délinquance à Paris. On peut s'interroger donc sur les statistiques. Pouvez-vous être plus précis ? Les coups et blessures volontaires ont beaucoup augmenté ainsi que les outrages et menaces. Le phénomène est inquiétant et s'est installé. La violence de la banlieue gagne la capitale. Il y a eu aussi dans un passé récent des affront! ements violents entre bandes déjà dans le XIV e . Ces problèmes existent et perdurent, il ne faut donc pas les nier. Pour les résoudre, cela passe par une sensibilisation de la préfecture de police, mais c'est un aussi un défi à la société qui se pose. Nous avons d'ailleurs une réunion sur ce point dans l'arrondissement concerné afin de trouver des solutions et faire face à ce défi. Quelles solutions peuvent être mises en oeuvre pour, justement, endiguer ces rivalités entre bandes ? La mairie de Paris s'est déjà engagée dans plusieurs actions afin de décharger la police nationale de certaines missions - comme les conflits de voisinage, la circulation - pour qu'elle puisse se concentrer sur les problèmes de violence. Mais les problèmes demeurent malgré tout. Il faut donc mettre en place des conditions de sécurisation autour des Champs-Elysées à la hauteur de leur fréquentation par cette jeunesse de banlieue. Et pourtant, c'est déjà l'un des lieux les plus surveillés! de la capitale en raison de la proximité du palais présidentiel et du ministère de l'Intérieur. La solution réside sans doute dans un effort de meilleure coordination entre l'action policière et judiciaire. N'y a t-il pas un risque de couper ce quartier du reste du monde en le sécurisant par tous les moyens ? Il n'est pas question de sanctuariser les Champs-Elysées. Ce serait une erreur. Cette avenue est par-dessus tout un lieu public et ne doit pas être un lieu réservé à telle ou telle catégorie sociale. Il n'est pas question d'en interdire l'accès aux jeunes car leur venue fait partie du mouvement de la modernité et de liberté. Mais il faut songer à repenser la sécurité sur cette avenue afin de prévenir la récidive de drames comme celui que nous venons de connaître.


Propos recueillis par Jean-Marc Ducos
Le Parisien , lundi 29 novembre 2004

 

[Said1]

had a link, but the French government is good at cleaning things, like others...

I'll search for it myself. Thanks anyway.