Ethanol loses friends and influence as reform movement grows

[Samson]

Ruh Roh...



Seems when Liberal Dem constituants begin to complain, Liberal Dems are able to change their stripes:

Earlier this month, California Democrat Dianne Feinstein joined forces with Oklahoma Republican Tom Coburn to introduce a Senate bill to strip ethanol completely from the Renewable Fuel Standard, also known as RFS. Although Feinstein continues to champion renewable fuel, she has expressed concerns that excess corn-based fuel production—mainly due to the RFS requirements—is "really not wise," and that the standards may hurt the Golden State's livestock producers.

Ethanol loses friends and influence as reform movement grows

 

[whitehall]

It's not too often that I agree with Ms. Feinstein but she is right. Ethanol is nothing but an emotional crutch that the left uses to pretend that it cares about the environment. The reality is that ethanol uses more fossil fuel energy to produce than it allegedly saves. Some critics say that it is unethical to use food products for fuel when it drives up the price of food and the kicker is that ethanol added to gas actually decreases the mileage so that more fossil fuel has to be used. Environmentalists refuse to even consider the allegations that ethanol increases CO2 emissions.

 

[Samson]

It's not too often that I agree with Ms. Feinstein but she is right. Ethanol is nothing but an emotional crutch that the left uses to pretend that it cares about the environment. The reality is that ethanol uses more fossil fuel energy to produce than it allegedly saves. Some critics say that it is unethical to use food products for fuel when it drives up the price of food and the kicker is that ethanol added to gas actually decreases the mileage so that more fossil fuel has to be used. Environmentalists refuse to even consider the allegations that ethanol increases CO2 emissions.

Fienstein is doesn't oppose Ethanol because she sees it as an "Emotional Crutch."

She opposes it because it may hurt California livestock producers, i.e. raising the price of feed costs.

 

[whitehall]

It's not too often that I agree with Ms. Feinstein but she is right. Ethanol is nothing but an emotional crutch that the left uses to pretend that it cares about the environment. The reality is that ethanol uses more fossil fuel energy to produce than it allegedly saves. Some critics say that it is unethical to use food products for fuel when it drives up the price of food and the kicker is that ethanol added to gas actually decreases the mileage so that more fossil fuel has to be used. Environmentalists refuse to even consider the allegations that ethanol increases CO2 emissions.

Fienstein is doesn't oppose Ethanol because she sees it as an "Emotional Crutch."

She opposes it because it may hurt California livestock producers, i.e. raising the price of feed costs.

The fact remains that it is an emotional crutch but reality only sets in when the left is plumb out of ideas and are desperate to keep from going bankrupt.

 

[Samson]

It's not too often that I agree with Ms. Feinstein but she is right. Ethanol is nothing but an emotional crutch that the left uses to pretend that it cares about the environment. The reality is that ethanol uses more fossil fuel energy to produce than it allegedly saves. Some critics say that it is unethical to use food products for fuel when it drives up the price of food and the kicker is that ethanol added to gas actually decreases the mileage so that more fossil fuel has to be used. Environmentalists refuse to even consider the allegations that ethanol increases CO2 emissions.

Fienstein is doesn't oppose Ethanol because she sees it as an "Emotional Crutch."

She opposes it because it may hurt California livestock producers, i.e. raising the price of feed costs.

The fact remains that it is an emotional crutch but reality only sets in when the left is plumb out of ideas and are desperate to keep from going bankrupt.

The fact is that Fienstein is as much a political creature as any other Dem: Liberal Ecologocal Principles will take a back-seat to Conservative Constituant Economic Pressure.

 

[eagle1462010]

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R40155.pdf

page 7 shows the mandates on bio fuels.............

Mandates 16.55 Billion Gallons a year in 2013
Mandates 36 Billion Gallons a year in 2022

Only viable source for these amounts has been ethanol, which is exactly why there was a recent discussion on moving fuel blends to 15% ethanol.............

This is the law that needs to be changed in order to reduce the use of ehthanol.

FYI post

 

[flacaltenn]

Fienstein is doesn't oppose Ethanol because she sees it as an "Emotional Crutch."

She opposes it because it may hurt California livestock producers, i.e. raising the price of feed costs.

The fact remains that it is an emotional crutch but reality only sets in when the left is plumb out of ideas and are desperate to keep from going bankrupt.

The fact is that Fienstein is as much a political creature as any other Dem: Liberal Ecologocal Principles will take a back-seat to Comservative Constituant Economic Pressure.

Theres the prob samson.. Aint no "liberal Eco Principles" left to defend ethanol mandates on such a huge scale.. Needs to be slain BEFORE it becomes another zombie walking dead nightmare.. Like dozens of other failed subsidy programs that need to "HEAD FOR THE LIGHT".

 

[Samson]

The fact remains that it is an emotional crutch but reality only sets in when the left is plumb out of ideas and are desperate to keep from going bankrupt.

The fact is that Fienstein is as much a political creature as any other Dem: Liberal Ecologocal Principles will take a back-seat to Comservative Constituant Economic Pressure.

Theres the prob samson.. Aint no "liberal Eco Principles" left to defend ethanol mandates on such a huge scale.. Needs to be slain BEFORE it becomes another zombie walking dead nightmare.. Like dozens of other failed subsidy programs that need to "HEAD FOR THE LIGHT".

Indeed.

It would appear that The Back-Tracking has begun within the Democratic congressional leadership

The next issue will be how Obama's Army of Eco-Wacko Zombies will react.......

 

[Old Rocks]

Ah yes, damn those liberals like Michele Bachman, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrinch, Tim Pawlenty, and the rest of the 'Cornhuskers'.

2012 Republicans and Ethanol Subsidies: "Fiscal Conservatives" Pander | TIME.com

 

[Mr. H.]

Ah yes, damn those liberals like Michele Bachman, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrinch, Tim Pawlenty, and the rest of the 'Cornhuskers'.

2012 Republicans and Ethanol Subsidies: "Fiscal Conservatives" Pander | TIME.com

Votes are votes.

The culprits are the Ag industry and the Ag lobby. And corn-state voters.

They railroaded methanol out of town to clear the way for their corn squeezins. Then they had the EPA fix the numbers to make emissions look good, then they sold the whole program on a pack of lies and fear-mongering.

It's been a bullshit program from day one.

 

[flacaltenn]

Ah yes, damn those liberals like Michele Bachman, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrinch, Tim Pawlenty, and the rest of the 'Cornhuskers'.

2012 Republicans and Ethanol Subsidies: "Fiscal Conservatives" Pander | TIME.com

Hell --- you know how it works.. You put out the slop, call Sooouuuuueeeeee, and git out the way... This banquet courtesy of YOUR generous side. Who shows up at the trough ain't got NOTHING TO DO with party affilliation..

Very rare when a feeding opportunity is turned down on principle.. Last I can remember, some Repub governors nixed Hi-Speed Choo Choo funds on principle.. Maybe a few Dems rejected some military contracts.

Sucking up them Green Credits that leftists thought were gonna go to Granny and her backyard ethanol still..

 

[Moonglow]

The mandates for ethanol are from the US Energy Policy Act of 2005.