America has become a Fourth World country

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America is self destructing.

A third-world country was traditionally regarded as an undeveloped nation, which, unlike its first-world counterpart, lacks the resources to foster a prosperous economy. What we are confronted with under the Biden administration, however, is the coming of a “fourth-world” dynamic, where prosperous Western countries endowed by God with tremendous reserves of natural resources shun, destroy, and obstruct their own resources and punish their people with self-inflicted poverty.

In case anyone still thought leftists were pained by the unprecedented energy inflation, Biden made it clear that he views the destruction of cheap and effective energy as a blessing. "My mother had an expression: Out of everything lousy, something good will happen,” Biden told reporters in Rehoboth Beach on Monday. “We have a chance to make a fundamental turn toward renewable energy, electric vehicles, and across the board."

In other words, the obstruction of our boundless God-given oil, gas, and coal resources is not a natural disaster, but a controlled demolition in order to make us reliant on unsafe and ineffective energy, just as they used (or induced) the pandemic to make us reliant on unsafe and ineffective medical products and treatment. They are hell-bent on doing to our economy and energy sector what they have long succeeded in doing to health care. Just know: It didn’t have to be this way.


Aside from the war on drilling, fracking, and pipelines, the left is ensuring that oil refineries become the key bottleneck of our energy freedom, in their regulatory morass that keeps all forms of fuel prohibitively expensive. You can’t have gasoline or jet fuel without growing capacity among oil refineries, yet we haven’t built a new large refinery since the 1970s. Worse, Chevron CEO Mike Wirth ominously warned that he believes there will never be another oil refinery built ever again.

"Capacity is added by de-bottlenecking existing units by investing in existing refineries," Wirth explained at a conference earlier this month. "But what we’ve seen over the last two years are shutdowns. We’ve seen refineries closed. We’ve seen units come down. We’ve seen refineries being repurposed to become bio refineries. And we live in a world where the policy, the stated policy of the U.S. government is to reduce demand for the products that refiners produce."

"At every level of the system, the policy of our government is to reduce demand, and so it’s very hard in a business where investments have a payout period of a decade or more," Wirth said. "And the stated policy of the government for a long time has been to reduce demand for your products."

In other words, the declining oil refining industry is a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more the global oligarchs demand an end to fossil fuels and institute policies facilitating that goal, both on the supply and demand sides, the more it becomes impossible to obtain the long-term financing to invest in critical infrastructure.

This comes at a time when we already have the existing refineries shutting down due to age and the inane pandemic shutdown. Two weeks ago, a large Houston oil refinery operated by LyondellBasell Industries announced it would shut down its operations at the end of next year, which means we are slated to lose 200,000 barrels a day. The U.S. already suffered the closure of six refineries due to the lockdown, which cost us 800,000 barrels a day. Rather than rapidly increasing our crude oil distillation capacity every month, as we were doing for years, we are now about 1 million barrels per day off the pre-pandemic peak. However, because of the demand-side policies, the regulatory schemes, the carbon footprint financing regulations, and the ethanol mandates on small independent refiners, we will likely never recover.

The Biden administration has become so friendly to the ethanol mafia that it is setting the renewable fuel standard prohibitively high. This forces refiners, who inevitably can’t blend that much ethanol into the national fuel supply, to purchase ransom credits from the EPA, known as renewable identification numbers (RINs). Thus, not only is the greater pull to ethanol diluting the fuel and raising the cost of corn and fertilizer – both commodities at record highs – it is exacerbating the financial instability of our nation’s fragile and aging refining capacity. And that is exactly what Biden would call a blessing in disguise.

Who stands to benefit? As always, it’s China. Even though the U.S. has larger oil reserves than China, God’s blessing can’t be utilized if there is a man-made curse on recovery, delivery, and refining. China’s capacity is expected to surpass the U.S. this year for the first time ever – topping out at 18.8 million barrels per day, roughly the level we attained pre-pandemic under Trump. Thus, the oligarchs running our country are committed to doing to oil what they did to our coal production: making China the champion of both.


Just as with so many other issues, we can’t wait until 2025 to deal with this emergency of vital goods. Energy-wealthy states must take the initiative to spawn an energy boom. States like Texas should create their own strategic reserves and should also invite energy companies to build oil refineries by circumventing the insane regulations at the federal level. Instead, the current Texas government is planning to indulge the green boondoggle and add more electric vehicle charging stations throughout the state to support up to 1 million electric vehicles. After T. Boone Pickens pushed his wind-farm boondoggle in many Texas counties last decade, they are now being inundated with solar farms while they have so much oil and gas under their feet.

A true red state would regulate energy the way the FDA regulates Pfizer. After all, if that standard is good enough for our bodies, it’s good enough for our cars.
 

America is self destructing.

A third-world country was traditionally regarded as an undeveloped nation, which, unlike its first-world counterpart, lacks the resources to foster a prosperous economy. What we are confronted with under the Biden administration, however, is the coming of a “fourth-world” dynamic, where prosperous Western countries endowed by God with tremendous reserves of natural resources shun, destroy, and obstruct their own resources and punish their people with self-inflicted poverty.

In case anyone still thought leftists were pained by the unprecedented energy inflation, Biden made it clear that he views the destruction of cheap and effective energy as a blessing. "My mother had an expression: Out of everything lousy, something good will happen,” Biden told reporters in Rehoboth Beach on Monday. “We have a chance to make a fundamental turn toward renewable energy, electric vehicles, and across the board."

In other words, the obstruction of our boundless God-given oil, gas, and coal resources is not a natural disaster, but a controlled demolition in order to make us reliant on unsafe and ineffective energy, just as they used (or induced) the pandemic to make us reliant on unsafe and ineffective medical products and treatment. They are hell-bent on doing to our economy and energy sector what they have long succeeded in doing to health care. Just know: It didn’t have to be this way.


Aside from the war on drilling, fracking, and pipelines, the left is ensuring that oil refineries become the key bottleneck of our energy freedom, in their regulatory morass that keeps all forms of fuel prohibitively expensive. You can’t have gasoline or jet fuel without growing capacity among oil refineries, yet we haven’t built a new large refinery since the 1970s. Worse, Chevron CEO Mike Wirth ominously warned that he believes there will never be another oil refinery built ever again.

"Capacity is added by de-bottlenecking existing units by investing in existing refineries," Wirth explained at a conference earlier this month. "But what we’ve seen over the last two years are shutdowns. We’ve seen refineries closed. We’ve seen units come down. We’ve seen refineries being repurposed to become bio refineries. And we live in a world where the policy, the stated policy of the U.S. government is to reduce demand for the products that refiners produce."

"At every level of the system, the policy of our government is to reduce demand, and so it’s very hard in a business where investments have a payout period of a decade or more," Wirth said. "And the stated policy of the government for a long time has been to reduce demand for your products."

In other words, the declining oil refining industry is a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more the global oligarchs demand an end to fossil fuels and institute policies facilitating that goal, both on the supply and demand sides, the more it becomes impossible to obtain the long-term financing to invest in critical infrastructure.

This comes at a time when we already have the existing refineries shutting down due to age and the inane pandemic shutdown. Two weeks ago, a large Houston oil refinery operated by LyondellBasell Industries announced it would shut down its operations at the end of next year, which means we are slated to lose 200,000 barrels a day. The U.S. already suffered the closure of six refineries due to the lockdown, which cost us 800,000 barrels a day. Rather than rapidly increasing our crude oil distillation capacity every month, as we were doing for years, we are now about 1 million barrels per day off the pre-pandemic peak. However, because of the demand-side policies, the regulatory schemes, the carbon footprint financing regulations, and the ethanol mandates on small independent refiners, we will likely never recover.

The Biden administration has become so friendly to the ethanol mafia that it is setting the renewable fuel standard prohibitively high. This forces refiners, who inevitably can’t blend that much ethanol into the national fuel supply, to purchase ransom credits from the EPA, known as renewable identification numbers (RINs). Thus, not only is the greater pull to ethanol diluting the fuel and raising the cost of corn and fertilizer – both commodities at record highs – it is exacerbating the financial instability of our nation’s fragile and aging refining capacity. And that is exactly what Biden would call a blessing in disguise.

Who stands to benefit? As always, it’s China. Even though the U.S. has larger oil reserves than China, God’s blessing can’t be utilized if there is a man-made curse on recovery, delivery, and refining. China’s capacity is expected to surpass the U.S. this year for the first time ever – topping out at 18.8 million barrels per day, roughly the level we attained pre-pandemic under Trump. Thus, the oligarchs running our country are committed to doing to oil what they did to our coal production: making China the champion of both.


Just as with so many other issues, we can’t wait until 2025 to deal with this emergency of vital goods. Energy-wealthy states must take the initiative to spawn an energy boom. States like Texas should create their own strategic reserves and should also invite energy companies to build oil refineries by circumventing the insane regulations at the federal level. Instead, the current Texas government is planning to indulge the green boondoggle and add more electric vehicle charging stations throughout the state to support up to 1 million electric vehicles. After T. Boone Pickens pushed his wind-farm boondoggle in many Texas counties last decade, they are now being inundated with solar farms while they have so much oil and gas under their feet.

A true red state would regulate energy the way the FDA regulates Pfizer. After all, if that standard is good enough for our bodies, it’s good enough for our cars.
What new oil refinery project is held up by regulations of the Biden administration. I must have missed it in your post.
 
What new oil refinery project is held up by regulations of the Biden administration. I must have missed it in your post.



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OK. I read the story. If it were being done upstream close to a well that your family drank from and streams you swam in as a kid, would you want it fast tracked with environmental impact review. The expansion request was not denied. It was just denied going forward with standard environmental reviews being accomplished.
 
OK. I read the story. If it were being done upstream close to a well that your family drank from and streams you swam in as a kid, would you want it fast tracked with environmental impact review. The expansion request was not denied. It was just denied going forward with standard environmental reviews being accomplished.


Yeah, that's the enviroweenies MO, delay, delay, delay, until costs become prohibitive. This is not a new refinery, it's just a fucking upgrade to increase productivity. The enviroweenies are pulling the same shit on new lease auctions.

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Another thread proving that whining is not winning.

As long as conservatives keep whining about what the Left is doing, but doing nothing about it........oh well.

Yeah, it's gonna get MUCH worse. Think Venezuela.
 
Yeah, that's the enviroweenies MO, delay, delay, delay, until costs become prohibitive. This is not a new refinery, it's just a fucking upgrade to increase productivity. The enviroweenies are pulling the same shit on new lease auctions.

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Yet many on this forum insist that at any moment now, the conservative Right will rise up and put an end to this madness.

Any moment now.........

Any momen.......

any....
 

America is self destructing.

A third-world country was traditionally regarded as an undeveloped nation, which, unlike its first-world counterpart, lacks the resources to foster a prosperous economy. What we are confronted with under the Biden administration, however, is the coming of a “fourth-world” dynamic, where prosperous Western countries endowed by God with tremendous reserves of natural resources shun, destroy, and obstruct their own resources and punish their people with self-inflicted poverty.

In case anyone still thought leftists were pained by the unprecedented energy inflation, Biden made it clear that he views the destruction of cheap and effective energy as a blessing. "My mother had an expression: Out of everything lousy, something good will happen,” Biden told reporters in Rehoboth Beach on Monday. “We have a chance to make a fundamental turn toward renewable energy, electric vehicles, and across the board."

In other words, the obstruction of our boundless God-given oil, gas, and coal resources is not a natural disaster, but a controlled demolition in order to make us reliant on unsafe and ineffective energy, just as they used (or induced) the pandemic to make us reliant on unsafe and ineffective medical products and treatment. They are hell-bent on doing to our economy and energy sector what they have long succeeded in doing to health care. Just know: It didn’t have to be this way.


Aside from the war on drilling, fracking, and pipelines, the left is ensuring that oil refineries become the key bottleneck of our energy freedom, in their regulatory morass that keeps all forms of fuel prohibitively expensive. You can’t have gasoline or jet fuel without growing capacity among oil refineries, yet we haven’t built a new large refinery since the 1970s. Worse, Chevron CEO Mike Wirth ominously warned that he believes there will never be another oil refinery built ever again.

"Capacity is added by de-bottlenecking existing units by investing in existing refineries," Wirth explained at a conference earlier this month. "But what we’ve seen over the last two years are shutdowns. We’ve seen refineries closed. We’ve seen units come down. We’ve seen refineries being repurposed to become bio refineries. And we live in a world where the policy, the stated policy of the U.S. government is to reduce demand for the products that refiners produce."

"At every level of the system, the policy of our government is to reduce demand, and so it’s very hard in a business where investments have a payout period of a decade or more," Wirth said. "And the stated policy of the government for a long time has been to reduce demand for your products."

In other words, the declining oil refining industry is a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more the global oligarchs demand an end to fossil fuels and institute policies facilitating that goal, both on the supply and demand sides, the more it becomes impossible to obtain the long-term financing to invest in critical infrastructure.

This comes at a time when we already have the existing refineries shutting down due to age and the inane pandemic shutdown. Two weeks ago, a large Houston oil refinery operated by LyondellBasell Industries announced it would shut down its operations at the end of next year, which means we are slated to lose 200,000 barrels a day. The U.S. already suffered the closure of six refineries due to the lockdown, which cost us 800,000 barrels a day. Rather than rapidly increasing our crude oil distillation capacity every month, as we were doing for years, we are now about 1 million barrels per day off the pre-pandemic peak. However, because of the demand-side policies, the regulatory schemes, the carbon footprint financing regulations, and the ethanol mandates on small independent refiners, we will likely never recover.

The Biden administration has become so friendly to the ethanol mafia that it is setting the renewable fuel standard prohibitively high. This forces refiners, who inevitably can’t blend that much ethanol into the national fuel supply, to purchase ransom credits from the EPA, known as renewable identification numbers (RINs). Thus, not only is the greater pull to ethanol diluting the fuel and raising the cost of corn and fertilizer – both commodities at record highs – it is exacerbating the financial instability of our nation’s fragile and aging refining capacity. And that is exactly what Biden would call a blessing in disguise.

Who stands to benefit? As always, it’s China. Even though the U.S. has larger oil reserves than China, God’s blessing can’t be utilized if there is a man-made curse on recovery, delivery, and refining. China’s capacity is expected to surpass the U.S. this year for the first time ever – topping out at 18.8 million barrels per day, roughly the level we attained pre-pandemic under Trump. Thus, the oligarchs running our country are committed to doing to oil what they did to our coal production: making China the champion of both.


Just as with so many other issues, we can’t wait until 2025 to deal with this emergency of vital goods. Energy-wealthy states must take the initiative to spawn an energy boom. States like Texas should create their own strategic reserves and should also invite energy companies to build oil refineries by circumventing the insane regulations at the federal level. Instead, the current Texas government is planning to indulge the green boondoggle and add more electric vehicle charging stations throughout the state to support up to 1 million electric vehicles. After T. Boone Pickens pushed his wind-farm boondoggle in many Texas counties last decade, they are now being inundated with solar farms while they have so much oil and gas under their feet.

A true red state would regulate energy the way the FDA regulates Pfizer. After all, if that standard is good enough for our bodies, it’s good enough for our cars.
Votto: Germany had this same problem with foreign labors & competing power players once Germany started to rebuild its military in the mid 1930's. Adolf Hitler either shipped the conscripted labor forces back home when through with them or had them interned in KZ camps to be worked to death @ a later date. This power struggling ALWAYS happens in any country that is rated @ the time as the worlds most powerful & influential country. I mean could you imagine power struggling over a country such as Timor-Leste? I'd bet you that other than me not one other board member of USMB has even ever heard of that totally powerless & less than insignificant country. One sees today that there are the oligarchs, unions, political organizations, special interests, revolutionaries, general narcissists, military industrial complex, cultists, power players, busy bodies, lunatics/mentally deranged, & every other abnormality known & unknown to mankind vying to control America & ultimately the world.

What else could you expect from the corrupted ones mentioned above??? Sanity resides in the eyes of the beholder as does insanity. Those power players literally see themselves as the savior of mankind like they actually believe it with all their heart, soul & mind. We, the normal ones(in our opinion) see with our own eyes what the corrupted ones are up to. The corrupted ones see us, the normal ones(in our opinions) as illiterate dolts that live our own lives out of their(the power players) sphere of power & control so we the normal ones(in our opinions) must be corrupted because we do not worship the corrupted ones that think they are literally almighty! We can see what the corrupted ones are up to for they are high visibility(narcissism), but they can't see what we are up to because we are low visibility(normal/non narcissistic).

I hope the above makes sense to you as somehow it became more convoluted than I expected it to become. Your post is spot on the money for sure.
 

America is self destructing.

A third-world country was traditionally regarded as an undeveloped nation, which, unlike its first-world counterpart, lacks the resources to foster a prosperous economy. What we are confronted with under the Biden administration, however, is the coming of a “fourth-world” dynamic, where prosperous Western countries endowed by God with tremendous reserves of natural resources shun, destroy, and obstruct their own resources and punish their people with self-inflicted poverty.

In case anyone still thought leftists were pained by the unprecedented energy inflation, Biden made it clear that he views the destruction of cheap and effective energy as a blessing. "My mother had an expression: Out of everything lousy, something good will happen,” Biden told reporters in Rehoboth Beach on Monday. “We have a chance to make a fundamental turn toward renewable energy, electric vehicles, and across the board."

In other words, the obstruction of our boundless God-given oil, gas, and coal resources is not a natural disaster, but a controlled demolition in order to make us reliant on unsafe and ineffective energy, just as they used (or induced) the pandemic to make us reliant on unsafe and ineffective medical products and treatment. They are hell-bent on doing to our economy and energy sector what they have long succeeded in doing to health care. Just know: It didn’t have to be this way.


Aside from the war on drilling, fracking, and pipelines, the left is ensuring that oil refineries become the key bottleneck of our energy freedom, in their regulatory morass that keeps all forms of fuel prohibitively expensive. You can’t have gasoline or jet fuel without growing capacity among oil refineries, yet we haven’t built a new large refinery since the 1970s. Worse, Chevron CEO Mike Wirth ominously warned that he believes there will never be another oil refinery built ever again.

"Capacity is added by de-bottlenecking existing units by investing in existing refineries," Wirth explained at a conference earlier this month. "But what we’ve seen over the last two years are shutdowns. We’ve seen refineries closed. We’ve seen units come down. We’ve seen refineries being repurposed to become bio refineries. And we live in a world where the policy, the stated policy of the U.S. government is to reduce demand for the products that refiners produce."

"At every level of the system, the policy of our government is to reduce demand, and so it’s very hard in a business where investments have a payout period of a decade or more," Wirth said. "And the stated policy of the government for a long time has been to reduce demand for your products."

In other words, the declining oil refining industry is a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more the global oligarchs demand an end to fossil fuels and institute policies facilitating that goal, both on the supply and demand sides, the more it becomes impossible to obtain the long-term financing to invest in critical infrastructure.

This comes at a time when we already have the existing refineries shutting down due to age and the inane pandemic shutdown. Two weeks ago, a large Houston oil refinery operated by LyondellBasell Industries announced it would shut down its operations at the end of next year, which means we are slated to lose 200,000 barrels a day. The U.S. already suffered the closure of six refineries due to the lockdown, which cost us 800,000 barrels a day. Rather than rapidly increasing our crude oil distillation capacity every month, as we were doing for years, we are now about 1 million barrels per day off the pre-pandemic peak. However, because of the demand-side policies, the regulatory schemes, the carbon footprint financing regulations, and the ethanol mandates on small independent refiners, we will likely never recover.

The Biden administration has become so friendly to the ethanol mafia that it is setting the renewable fuel standard prohibitively high. This forces refiners, who inevitably can’t blend that much ethanol into the national fuel supply, to purchase ransom credits from the EPA, known as renewable identification numbers (RINs). Thus, not only is the greater pull to ethanol diluting the fuel and raising the cost of corn and fertilizer – both commodities at record highs – it is exacerbating the financial instability of our nation’s fragile and aging refining capacity. And that is exactly what Biden would call a blessing in disguise.

Who stands to benefit? As always, it’s China. Even though the U.S. has larger oil reserves than China, God’s blessing can’t be utilized if there is a man-made curse on recovery, delivery, and refining. China’s capacity is expected to surpass the U.S. this year for the first time ever – topping out at 18.8 million barrels per day, roughly the level we attained pre-pandemic under Trump. Thus, the oligarchs running our country are committed to doing to oil what they did to our coal production: making China the champion of both.


Just as with so many other issues, we can’t wait until 2025 to deal with this emergency of vital goods. Energy-wealthy states must take the initiative to spawn an energy boom. States like Texas should create their own strategic reserves and should also invite energy companies to build oil refineries by circumventing the insane regulations at the federal level. Instead, the current Texas government is planning to indulge the green boondoggle and add more electric vehicle charging stations throughout the state to support up to 1 million electric vehicles. After T. Boone Pickens pushed his wind-farm boondoggle in many Texas counties last decade, they are now being inundated with solar farms while they have so much oil and gas under their feet.

A true red state would regulate energy the way the FDA regulates Pfizer. After all, if that standard is good enough for our bodies, it’s good enough for our cars.

Trump believes that crap too and claims only he can save us.
 
America is most definitely not a fourth world country. This unimpeded use of words that VASTLY over state circumstances needs to stop. Democrats are constantly, always using the most extreme language possible to describe any situation. They go straight to 100 when just going to 15 would suffice. And republicans do it as well, not as much but they do. Everyone seems to always hit the panic button all the time. What happens when extreme language is over used and no one pays attention anymore?

And America is not self destructing. But it is mostly erroding away at a steady pace.
 

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