Erik Prince on Sunday Morning Futures: The US has “No Means” to Shoot Down Russia’s Mach 9 Hypersonic Ballistic Missiles that Were Just Fired on Ukrai

[Zavulon]

According to who?

According Ukrainain and NATO videos and expert opinions. To bear 36 warheads by one missile and put them all in a bull-eye of a single plant - ok, its quite precise.

Ballistic Missiles have been going "hypersonic" since the 60's.

Yeah. Some of them are interceptable, some of them are not (by one or another ABD-system). And nothing that Ukraine had were able to intercept them.

 

[martybegan]

According Ukrainain and NATO videos and expert opinions. To bear 36 warheads by one missile and put them all in a bull-eye of a single plant - ok, its quite precise.


Yeah. Some of them are interceptable, some of them are not (by one or another ABD-system). And nothing that Ukraine had were able to intercept them.

If it's just conventional weapons all they have made is a very fast moving cluster bomb.

 

[westwall]

Get rid of lead pipes & leaded AV Gas that is dumbing US down.

No, it's a incredibly poor public education system. The private schools turn out very good students.

 

[Zavulon]

It just sounds sexier and dangerous!

Yes. And, it marks not only the speed which a vechicle can achieve, but, what is more important - the speed on which it is still controllable. There is the practical difference for CEP 1 km, 100 m, 10 m and 2 meters.

 

[Zavulon]

If it's just conventional weapons all they have made is a very fast moving cluster bomb.

Yes. But those "fast-moving claster bombs", launched , say, from Cuba, can hit US Minuteman III silos before POTUS is even reported about the launch. Its a gun pointed directly into your right arm (and, may be, even left arm either).

 

[martybegan]

Yes. But those "fast-moving claster bombs", launched , say, from Cuba, can hit US Minuteman III silos before POTUS is even reported about the launch.

Nope.

They would also have to be penetrating nuclear warheads to get through the silo defenses.

 

[Zavulon]

Nope.

They would also have to be penetrating nuclear warheads to get through the silo defenses.

No. With their speed and weight they might be able to destroy a silo without a nukes. And there are no real defences able to stop them before the hit.

 

[martybegan]

No. With their speed and weight they might be able to destroy a silo without a nukes. And there are no real defences able to stop them before the hit.

I doubt it. Silos are hardened against area strikes from nukes.

 

[Zavulon]

I doubt it. Silos are hardened against area strikes from nukes.

But not from direct hit of a fast-moving projectile. Anyway, right now American experts, I believe, are working in the ruins of Yuzhmash, and the lack of their usual laymen-comforting mantras about how weak are Russian warheads - make me think, that their penetrating ability was more than just "impressive".

 

[martybegan]

But not from direct hit of a fast-moving projectile. Anyway, right now American experts, I believe, are working in the ruins of Yuzhmash, and the lack of their usual laymen-comforting mantras about how weak are Russian warheads - make me think, that their penetrating ability was more than just "impressive".

I doubt it.

 

[Moonglow]

Erik Prince on Sunday Morning Futures: ​

The US has “No Means” to Shoot Down Russia’s Mach 9 Hypersonic Ballistic Missiles that Were Just Fired on Ukraine​

Erik Prince on Sunday Morning Futures: The US has "No Means" to Shoot Down Russia's Mach 9 Hypersonic Ballistic Missiles that Were Just Fired on Ukraine (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Erik Prince joined Maria Bartiromo on Sunday Morning Futures this morning.

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24 Nov 2024 ~~ By Jim Hoft

Erik Prince joined Maria Bartiromo on Sunday Morning Futures this morning.
Erik Prince is a former Navy SEAL officer and founder of Blackwater Private Military Company.
During their discussion, Prince pointed out how Russia changed the game this past week following the taunting of the US and NATO attacks inside the Russian borders.
According to Prince, the US has “no means” to shoot down Russia’s Mach 9 hypersonic missile like the one that was fired into Ukraine last week!
Russia fired its advanced hypersonic missile into Ukraine last week.
Americans better wake up!

Erik Prince: There’s no good outcome to this war. It needs to de-escalate and be done. There’s no chance that Ukraine is going to retake its land, the Donetsk, the Luhansk, the areas in the east, certainly not the Crimea.​

It’s been a fool’s errand for the last year and a half, and all we’re doing is wiping out the next generations of Ukrainian men, and Russian men, for that matter.​

~Snip~​

Erik Prince: To me, it’s like a drowning man grabbing at any rope that might be available to them thinking that it might somehow push the Russians to play nicer or something. There is really no practical reason.
The fact is, the Russians fired a ballistic missile that carried nine warheads going Mach 9, that there is no means to shoot down. And even with non-nuclear, the kinetic force is enormous, and those could have just as easily… It was a reminder by the Russians, We can smack you anywhere with nukes, and maybe that’s what’s coming next. This is not a game that needs to be played any longer. It is grossly irresponsible.

Commentary:
Contrary to Mr. Prince's statement, here's a bit of information...The Ukraine claims it has shot down a Russian Kh-47M2 Khinzal air-launched ballistic missile using the U.S. Patriot system.
Meanwhile the U.S. has developed a Hyper-Sonic & Ballistic Space Sensor System (HBTSS) and launched six satellites with more to satellites to go into orbit beginning the first of the year.
Israel has also improved the "Iron Dome" with a new laser anti ballistic system they've named "Iron Beam".
Both these system handle various types of missiles, drones and mortar rounds.
Meanwhile, I put nothing passed Neo-Marxist Democrats twisted minds.
I'm expecting something.. their 'peaceful transition' canard rings hollow. Luckily, Trump is much smarter than they are, and he's encircled himself with some very smart and capable people.
We all know that winning the election was just the beginning of a bare knuckle fist fight with the deep state.

God wins.. they didn't get the memo yet.. but they will.

See: https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a43806773/patriot-missile-kills-russia-hypersonic-kinzhal-missile/

Do you always suck Trump and Pootin cock or are you just infatuated with them?

Lasers can defend against the missiles,, and the Aegis SBT counters hypersonic missile attacks..

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yes. But those "fast-moving claster bombs", launched , say, from Cuba, can hit US Minuteman III silos before POTUS is even reported about the launch. Its a gun pointed directly into your right arm (and, may be, even left arm either).

And bounce off. The “coolie hats” on those silos are rated to defend against hits from nuclear weapons.

 

[Mushroom]

Didn't the AIM-54 Pheonix use a ballistic arc?

Not really, as it is an active powered air to air missile.

Ballistic arcs are used when discussing ordinance that are unpowered for all but their outward path, and after that rely only upon gravity and velocity to reach their target. That includes things like bullets, artillery, mortars, and ballistic missiles. It really does not apply to powered weapons that operate in that manner from launch to target.

This is why the V-2 is a Ballistic Missile, but the V-1 is not. That was the first of what we call a "cruise missile" today, and is powered and flies much more like an airplane until it reaches the target.

 

[Mushroom]

Lasers can defend against the missiles

Really?

And how do you resolve the thermal blooming problem?

 

[Moonglow]

Really?

And how do you resolve the thermal blooming problem?

use shorter laser pulses, increase the beam diameter, select a wavelength with lower absorption in the medium, rapidly scan the beam across the target area (to avoid heat build-up in one spot), and employ adaptive optics to actively correct for wavefront distortions caused by thermal blooming

 

[Mushroom]

use shorter laser pulses, increase the beam diameter, select a wavelength with lower absorption in the medium, rapidly scan the beam across the target area (to avoid heat build-up in one spot), and employ adaptive optics to actively correct for wavefront distortions caused by thermal blooming

Right! Along with liberal uses of unicorn farts I imagine.

Tell me, do you even know what thermal blooming is? Or what causes it? Because what you said literally made absolutely no sense and had nothing to do with that problem.

Yes, there are two parts to the issue of Thermal Blooming, and the deflection of the beam is actually much more minor one. The major problem is actually the heating not of the atmosphere but of particulates in the atmosphere. Water vapor and dust to be specific.

There is a reason why most of the successful tests of laser weapons have been from high altitude aircraft. Aircraft above any cloud cover, far out of reach of most of the water and vapor that you find at lower altitudes.

And this is not a new problem, the Soviets had issues with this in the 1980s, and the US still has problems with it to this day. When the particulates in the atmosphere are hit with a high power weapons grade laser, they not only misdirect the beam slightly, they absorb a hell of a lot of the heat and almost turn into a plasma. The more particulates in the atmosphere, the worse the problem is. And this is simply a problem there is no solution for, unless you can think of some way to remove all particulates from the atmosphere in front of the LASER beam.

Because literally everything you just said would either do absolutely nothing to resolve this issue, or actually make the problem worse. And when talking about trying to pinpoint place a LASER beam on a high moving object at MACH 5+, rapidly scan the area? You are aware that would defeat the very application of the LASER onto the incoming object, right? And adjust the wavelength? On a LASER? Not only something silly, but that would have absolutely no impact on the particulates.

 

[martybegan]

Not really, as it is an active powered air to air missile.

Ballistic arcs are used when discussing ordinance that are unpowered for all but their outward path, and after that rely only upon gravity and velocity to reach their target. That includes things like bullets, artillery, mortars, and ballistic missiles. It really does not apply to powered weapons that operate in that manner from launch to target.

This is why the V-2 is a Ballistic Missile, but the V-1 is not. That was the first of what we call a "cruise missile" today, and is powered and flies much more like an airplane until it reaches the target.

The AIM-54's motor burned out during its boost phase. A ballistic trajectory is what gave it its range, and its speed is what made it so lethal.

I came from above at Mach 5 and its primary target was large bombers.

Your V-1/V-2 comparison is spot on though.

 

[luiza]

Do you always suck Trump and Pootin cock or are you just infatuated with them?

Lasers can defend against the missiles,, and the Aegis SBT counters hypersonic missile attacks..

You just make it up as you go .

You make me think of the other Dumbfuck here who thought you could capture one of these non drone craft by dropping a net over it from above .

 

[Zavulon]

And bounce off. The “coolie hats” on those silos are rated to defend against hits from nuclear weapons.

Not from the direct hit or even close miss. And your engineers in Yuzhmash still didn't tell us how many meters of concrete were destroyed by those Mach-10 penetrators.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Not from the direct hit or even close miss. And your engineers in Yuzhmash still didn't tell us how many meters of concrete were destroyed by those Mach-10 penetrators.

It doesn’t matter. The radius of destruction was small. Unlike nukes an inert penetrater has to actually hit its target to do damage. These didn’t, they were scattered across a target zone.