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Equal Protection Of Citizenship Is In A State Of Sedition Because Of Supreme Court Ruling On Abortion
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Monk-Eye
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" Irrelevant Except For Quibbling About The Irrelevant "
* Sanctimonious Theistic Establishment Of Religion Crap *
* Sanctimonious Theistic Establishment Of Religion Crap *
The only thing which matters is whether a constitutional wright to life exists and neither a fetus nor an individual sentenced to death by capital punishment has one .
And the fact that both are on equal footing is disturbing.
Toddsterpatriot
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Why do you feel that?
Toddsterpatriot
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Define "fetus" and show your evidence that they have no constitutional RIGHT (not wright) to life.
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Monk-Eye
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" Sanctimonious Sycophants Lecturing No One On Veracity Of Nature "
* Lion Of Judea Kills The Cubs Of Another Male *
An after life , a chance for eternal life , the life to come , reincarnation , being born again , are metaphors for passing ones genetic identity through offspring so that another , both figuratively and literally as oneself , may have an opportunity to experience sentience , sapience and introspection , that is afforded by life , where failure to do so in perpetuity is ascribed the metaphors of final judgement and eternal damnation .
A sophisticated physical state is required for sentience , sapience and introspection , which occurs by procreation and the success criteria of nature to survive has not changed , nor will it .
* Odin Quin Cannon Gawd Of Meat *
So , let us see what gawd has to say about genetic continuance and what should become of a fetus when a woman is carrying a bastard from another man .
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Ordeal of the bitter water - Wikipedia
A Sotah (Hebrew: שוטה‎ [1] / סוטה) is a woman suspected of adultery who undergoes the ordeal of bitter water or ordeal of jealousy as described and prescribed in the Priestly Code, in the Book of Numbers, the fourth book of the Hebrew Bible. The term "Sotah" itself is not found in the Hebrew Bible but is Mishnaic Hebrew based on the verse "if she has strayed" (verb: שטה satah) in Numbers 5:12.[2][3] The process was a trial by ordeal administered to the wife whose husband suspected her of adultery but who had no witnesses to make a formal case (Numbers 5:11-31). The ordeal is further explained in the Talmud, in the eponymous seventh tractate of Nashim.
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22 and this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, and make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to fall away'; and the woman shall say: 'Amen, Amen.'
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28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.
* Lion Of Judea Kills The Cubs Of Another Male *
An after life , a chance for eternal life , the life to come , reincarnation , being born again , are metaphors for passing ones genetic identity through offspring so that another , both figuratively and literally as oneself , may have an opportunity to experience sentience , sapience and introspection , that is afforded by life , where failure to do so in perpetuity is ascribed the metaphors of final judgement and eternal damnation .
A sophisticated physical state is required for sentience , sapience and introspection , which occurs by procreation and the success criteria of nature to survive has not changed , nor will it .
* Odin Quin Cannon Gawd Of Meat *
So , let us see what gawd has to say about genetic continuance and what should become of a fetus when a woman is carrying a bastard from another man .
Congressional Thumpers Demand That Abortion Be Legal For Adultery
" Congressional Thumpers Demand That Abortion Be Legal For Adultery " * A Peering Two Be That Weigh * Should an exception to allow abortion be allowed for a pregnancy resulting from adultery ? https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+5&version=KJV 27 And when he hath made her to...
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A Sotah (Hebrew: שוטה‎ [1] / סוטה) is a woman suspected of adultery who undergoes the ordeal of bitter water or ordeal of jealousy as described and prescribed in the Priestly Code, in the Book of Numbers, the fourth book of the Hebrew Bible. The term "Sotah" itself is not found in the Hebrew Bible but is Mishnaic Hebrew based on the verse "if she has strayed" (verb: שטה satah) in Numbers 5:12.[2][3] The process was a trial by ordeal administered to the wife whose husband suspected her of adultery but who had no witnesses to make a formal case (Numbers 5:11-31). The ordeal is further explained in the Talmud, in the eponymous seventh tractate of Nashim.
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22 and this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, and make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to fall away'; and the woman shall say: 'Amen, Amen.'
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28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.
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Exactly like I said, facts don't care about your strong emotions. You were Oh so close but completely wrong.
The exact moment of fertilization is when the sex is determined.
This is science.
The sex of that baby is determined at the exact moment when egg and sperm meet, but it takes a while for the external organs to match the internal chromosomes.
As an embryo develops, it acquires both Wolffian and Mullerian ducts. Wolffian ducts develop into male sex organs, and Mullerian ducts develop into female sex organs. Which sex organs develop depends on the presence of a Y chromosome and the male hormone testosterone and anti-Mullerian hormone (AMH). At eight weeks, the internal genitalia will begin to form. If the embryo has both an X and a Y chromosome and produces the two hormones, then the testosterone will stimulate the Wolffian duct to develop male sex organs, including the vas deferens and the seminal vesicles. If there's no Y chromosome, but two X chromosomes instead, then the embryo is female. The Wolffian duct will degrade, and the Mullerian duct will develop into female sex organs such as the uterus, fallopian tubes and part of the vagina.
How Human Reproduction Works
Reproduction is a basic drive in all animals, including humans. Think you know what human reproduction is all about? Discover the biology of sex.
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" You Are Going To Die And Are Only Figuratively Coming Back Through Offspring "
* Address The Thread Premise As Your Digress Is Making Us All Less Intelligent *
" Phenotypical expression in XX males correlates with testicular response to exogenous choriogonadotropin in early infancy: does a variable degree of testicular failure determine the degree of genital ambiguity? "
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The 46,XX male syndrome is characterized by the presence of testicular development in subjects who lack a Y chromosome. The majority of patients have male external genitalia without ambiguity; however, 10-15% show diverse degrees of hypospadias. Testicular function is normal at birth but deteriorates thereafter. However, it has not been clarified why some cases exhibit genital ambiguity.
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Prepubertal patients had age-appropriate basal testosterone concentrations.
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These results suggest that the degree of genital ambiguity is correlated with the impairment in testosterone response to choriogonadotropin in early infancy, indicating a defect in testosterone production in XX males with genital ambiguity.
* Address The Thread Premise As Your Digress Is Making Us All Less Intelligent *
Your bull shit discussion about genetic anomalies has nothing to do with the basis of this thread .Exactly like I said, facts don't care about your strong emotions. You were Oh so close but completely wrong.
The exact moment of fertilization is when the sex is determined.
This is science.
The sex of that baby is determined at the exact moment when egg and sperm meet, but it takes a while for the external organs to match the internal chromosomes.
As an embryo develops, it acquires both Wolffian and Mullerian ducts. Wolffian ducts develop into male sex organs, and Mullerian ducts develop into female sex organs. Which sex organs develop depends on the presence of a Y chromosome and the male hormone testosterone and anti-Mullerian hormone (AMH). At eight weeks, the internal genitalia will begin to form. If the embryo has both an X and a Y chromosome and produces the two hormones, then the testosterone will stimulate the Wolffian duct to develop male sex organs, including the vas deferens and the seminal vesicles. If there's no Y chromosome, but two X chromosomes instead, then the embryo is female. The Wolffian duct will degrade, and the Mullerian duct will develop into female sex organs such as the uterus, fallopian tubes and part of the vagina.
How Human Reproduction Works
Reproduction is a basic drive in all animals, including humans. Think you know what human reproduction is all about? Discover the biology of sex.
" Phenotypical expression in XX males correlates with testicular response to exogenous choriogonadotropin in early infancy: does a variable degree of testicular failure determine the degree of genital ambiguity? "
Phenotypical expression in XX males correlates with testicular response to exogenous choriogonadotropin in early infancy: does a variable degree of testicular failure determine the degree of genital ambiguity? - PubMed
The 46,XX male syndrome is characterized by the presence of testicular development in subjects who lack a Y chromosome. The majority of patients have male external genitalia without ambiguity; however, 10-15% show diverse degrees of hypospadias. Testicular function is normal at birth but...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Prepubertal patients had age-appropriate basal testosterone concentrations.
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These results suggest that the degree of genital ambiguity is correlated with the impairment in testosterone response to choriogonadotropin in early infancy, indicating a defect in testosterone production in XX males with genital ambiguity.
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" What Is And What Would Not Be "
* Apex Predator Damned Dirty Apes With Canines Claiming Exceptions For Themselves *
Prior to establishing a social civil contract according to a constitution , all are subject to the moral relativism of nature , and to improve ones odds of survival and quality of life , natural freedoms are exchanged for wrights of retort which only exist within the constructs of the social civil agreement .
Whether is a birth requirement for a wright to life according to the social civil agreement of us constitution , or whether one has had their wright to life removed - albeit by due process as in the case of capital punishment , one is subject to the moral relativism of nature .
Fools claim that all things come from gawd but only it is made in the image of gawd without considering that nothing is separate from itself and all would be an image of gawd , such that one need only look beyond their own myopia egoism to see how the moral relativism in nature of gawd applies to their petty vanity .
A law exists only because a greater individual exists which is able to issue a retort for a violation of the statute and for thou shalt not kill to be a law , one would immediately vaporize upon commission of the act .
Only a theistic imbecile would claim in one breath that hue mammon is carnal in nature and in need of redemption , while in the next breath claiming that a fetus is innocent while an individual subject to capital punishment is not .
Hue mammon is just another animal in the animal kingdom and the only thing that is relevant in this thread is whether a wright to life exists or does not exist and according to us constitution .
The us is in a state of sedition due to the arrogance of simpleton neophytes and psychosis of traitors at the highest levels .
* Apex Predator Damned Dirty Apes With Canines Claiming Exceptions For Themselves *
Prior to establishing a social civil contract according to a constitution , all are subject to the moral relativism of nature , and to improve ones odds of survival and quality of life , natural freedoms are exchanged for wrights of retort which only exist within the constructs of the social civil agreement .
Whether is a birth requirement for a wright to life according to the social civil agreement of us constitution , or whether one has had their wright to life removed - albeit by due process as in the case of capital punishment , one is subject to the moral relativism of nature .
Fools claim that all things come from gawd but only it is made in the image of gawd without considering that nothing is separate from itself and all would be an image of gawd , such that one need only look beyond their own myopia egoism to see how the moral relativism in nature of gawd applies to their petty vanity .
A law exists only because a greater individual exists which is able to issue a retort for a violation of the statute and for thou shalt not kill to be a law , one would immediately vaporize upon commission of the act .
Only a theistic imbecile would claim in one breath that hue mammon is carnal in nature and in need of redemption , while in the next breath claiming that a fetus is innocent while an individual subject to capital punishment is not .
Hue mammon is just another animal in the animal kingdom and the only thing that is relevant in this thread is whether a wright to life exists or does not exist and according to us constitution .
The us is in a state of sedition due to the arrogance of simpleton neophytes and psychosis of traitors at the highest levels .
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Yes, I was wrong about that. My apologies.Exactly like I said, facts don't care about your strong emotions. You were Oh so close but completely wrong.
The exact moment of fertilization is when the sex is determined.
This is science.
The sex of that baby is determined at the exact moment when egg and sperm meet, but it takes a while for the external organs to match the internal chromosomes.
As an embryo develops, it acquires both Wolffian and Mullerian ducts. Wolffian ducts develop into male sex organs, and Mullerian ducts develop into female sex organs. Which sex organs develop depends on the presence of a Y chromosome and the male hormone testosterone and anti-Mullerian hormone (AMH). At eight weeks, the internal genitalia will begin to form. If the embryo has both an X and a Y chromosome and produces the two hormones, then the testosterone will stimulate the Wolffian duct to develop male sex organs, including the vas deferens and the seminal vesicles. If there's no Y chromosome, but two X chromosomes instead, then the embryo is female. The Wolffian duct will degrade, and the Mullerian duct will develop into female sex organs such as the uterus, fallopian tubes and part of the vagina.
How Human Reproduction Works
Reproduction is a basic drive in all animals, including humans. Think you know what human reproduction is all about? Discover the biology of sex.
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" Sedition Of Us People By Order Of Supreme Court Directive For States Interest And Authority Against Us Constitution Continues "
* Title Trifling About Citizenship Clause Conceptual Summary *
The underlying principle for the legality of abortion is a birth requirement for citizenship ( method of becoming a citizen along with privileges and immunities ) with birth being a concomitant requirement for equal protection .
Citizenship Rights, Equal Protection, Apportionment, Civil War Debt
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
* Title Trifling About Citizenship Clause Conceptual Summary *
The underlying principle for the legality of abortion is a birth requirement for citizenship ( method of becoming a citizen along with privileges and immunities ) with birth being a concomitant requirement for equal protection .
Citizenship Rights, Equal Protection, Apportionment, Civil War Debt
The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution
SECTION. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United...
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Did you notice the part about persons? It doesn't say only citizens have rights to life.
You are really desperate to murder babies, aren't you?
Nothing virtue signals what a great person you are quite like making nonsensical arguments in favor of infanticide
Toddsterpatriot
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Illegal aliens and other non-citizens don't have equal protection? They can be killed with impunity?
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" Equal Protection Is Based On A Birth Requirement From Citizenship "
* Equal Protection is Based On A Birth Requirement For Citizenship *
Illegal aliens are not entitled to positive liberties such as social subsistence and , as illegal migrants are not subjects by title in us legal immigration system , they are not by technical element - " subject to the jurisdiction thereof " as per us 14th amendment , whereby any children born in the us to an illegal migrant are to receive jus sanguinin citizenship to the country in origin of the mother - discussion is here - Would A Legal Challenge of Subject To Contract Clause Of Us 14th Amendment Succeed ? .
In a previous thread , a premise had been forwarded that illegal migrants are not technically within use jurisdiction and nations of origin remain responsible for seeking retort for violations against their own citizens , however the premise is debased as 14th amendment bylines delineating endowment of citizenship and general protection are disjunctive .
Republicanism asserts that negative liberties are to be equally protected , while republicanism dissents that positive liberties may not be equally endowed - discussion is here - Political Science Terminology : Negative / Positive : Wrights / Liberties : Protections / Endowments .
* Equal Protection is Based On A Birth Requirement For Citizenship *
Illegal aliens are persons by virtue of having born and entitled to negatively liberties of equal protection as per us 14th amendment .
Illegal aliens are not entitled to positive liberties such as social subsistence and , as illegal migrants are not subjects by title in us legal immigration system , they are not by technical element - " subject to the jurisdiction thereof " as per us 14th amendment , whereby any children born in the us to an illegal migrant are to receive jus sanguinin citizenship to the country in origin of the mother - discussion is here - Would A Legal Challenge of Subject To Contract Clause Of Us 14th Amendment Succeed ? .
In a previous thread , a premise had been forwarded that illegal migrants are not technically within use jurisdiction and nations of origin remain responsible for seeking retort for violations against their own citizens , however the premise is debased as 14th amendment bylines delineating endowment of citizenship and general protection are disjunctive .
Republicanism asserts that negative liberties are to be equally protected , while republicanism dissents that positive liberties may not be equally endowed - discussion is here - Political Science Terminology : Negative / Positive : Wrights / Liberties : Protections / Endowments .
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" Advantages Of Ambiguity Bumps "
* Thread Premise By Virtue Of Propositional Introduction "
The only constitutional option available to the Roe court was to order that state interests do not exist until parturition ( live birth ) leaving a constitutional amendment by a two thirds majority as the only alternative .
The current us supreme court order is an act of sedition against equal protection with us citizens by virtue of the citizenship clause .
Apparently the thread premise sufficiently proposed and described in the introduction is too formidable to receive anything other than trifling slights about the title , but that was already understood .
* Thread Premise By Virtue Of Propositional Introduction "
The choice of title summary could have been better had the prepositional pronoun preceding " Citizenship ' been " for " or " from " , or had the title included "Clause " after citizenship , however the title remains sufficient , though perhaps not ideal .
The only constitutional option available to the Roe court was to order that state interests do not exist until parturition ( live birth ) leaving a constitutional amendment by a two thirds majority as the only alternative .
The current us supreme court order is an act of sedition against equal protection with us citizens by virtue of the citizenship clause .
Apparently the thread premise sufficiently proposed and described in the introduction is too formidable to receive anything other than trifling slights about the title , but that was already understood .
Toddsterpatriot
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The decision didn't damage anyone's citizenship.
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" Eigenvalues As Rights Of Pretentious Idealism "
* A'Priori Logically Of Course Political Science Deduction *
" A Law Wright Crafts Wrights *
Use of the term wright is intentional and far more correct than use of the term right .
The purpose for using the term wright is based in legal positivism .
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The most prominent legal positivist writer in English has been H. L. A. Hart, who, in 1958, found common usages of "positivism" as applied to law to include the contentions that:
* A'Priori Logically Of Course Political Science Deduction *
Birth is a requirement for citizens to receive constitutional wrights ( includes a wright to life ) , equal protection with a citizen requires birth , a fetus has not been born and does not have constitutional protections . QED
" A Law Wright Crafts Wrights *
Use of the term wright is intentional and far more correct than use of the term right .
The purpose for using the term wright is based in legal positivism .
Legal positivism - Wikipedia
- laws are commands of human beings;
- there is not any necessary relation between law and morality, that is, between law as it is and as it ought to be;
- analysis (or study of the meaning) of legal concepts is worthwhile and is to be distinguished from history or sociology of law, as well as from criticism or appraisal of law, for example with regard to its moral value or to its social aims or functions;
- a legal system is a closed, logical system in which correct decisions can be deduced from predetermined legal rules without reference to social considerations (legal formalism);
- moral judgments, unlike statements of fact, cannot be established or defended by rational argument, evidence, or proof ("noncognitivism" in ethics).[1]
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