You are having reading comprehension problems. I never said that black people were a greater threat to white people than the threat to white people from other white people. What I said was, and I don't know why I repeat it if you won't read it anyway, that black people are more likely to kill a white person than a white person is to kill a black person.
But that's only half the story so let's break down the lessons we can learn from the 246 black on white murders versus the 566 white on black murders, assuming for the sake of discussion that all murders are one person killing one other. We know that's not the whole story but I'm guessing that the multiple killings don't hugely change the averages.
I also recognize that none of these lessons go to motive or circumstance. It doesn't consider how many are cops killing bad guys, either white cop/black bad guy or black cop/white bad guy. It is a look at simply how many of one race are dying at the hands of the other race from analysis of just two numbers: 246 and 566, along with 2020 census data on population by race.
1. On average, 1 in 443,000 white people will kill a black person per year
2. On average, 1 in 182,000 black people will kill a white person per year.
3. On average, black people as a group will kill 1 out of every 1,018,000 white people every year.
4. On average, white people as a group will kill 1 out of every 79,116 black people every year.
Thus:
5. Black individuals are twice as likely to kill a white person as a white individual is to kill a black person.
6. Whites, as a group, kill a 10 times greater percentage of the black population as blacks, as a group, kill of the white population
7. The black population is hugely more at risk from white people than the white population is from black people.
Other stories passed my mind as I was writing the 7 above but they passed out of mind before I got to them so there may be even more lessons to learn from just these two numbers.
I'm not going to suggest that black men are afraid and so it might be that they are not more afraid of whites than white men are afraid of blacks, or the other way around. But I could see why black mothers might be more afraid of white people than white mothers might be of black people. It would sure be great if no mother had to be afraid someone else was going to hurt their child.
I remember one lesson - let's call it 2.1. On average, a black individual is over twice as likely to kill a white person as a white individual is to kill a black person.
So, that;'s the white on black and black on white. The numbers, by the way, for the last post and this post come from:
In 2024, white Americans remained the largest racial group in the United States, numbering just over 254 million.
www.statista.com
In 2019, there were 2594 homicides of white people by white people. In the same year, there were 2574 homicides of black people by black people, a difference of just 20.
So what are the lessons we can learn from these two numbers. Just as in the last post, no consideration for multiple killings, etc., were made nor any consideration for motive, circumstance, law enforcement, etc.
1. on average, 1 out of 17,397 black people will kill a black person each year.
2. the same number, 1 out of 17,397 black people will be killed by another black person each year.
3. on average, 1 out of 96669 white people will kill a white person each year.
4. the same number, 1 out of 96669 white people will be killed by another white person each year.
5. a black person is more than 5 times more likely to die at the hands of a black person than a white person is to die at the hands of a white person.
So you haven't heard of the Asian cop who shot an unarmed black man or the Asian cop who was part of the George Floyd murder. See, what goes on is a few incidents are played over and over and whites like most here start talking crazy. If you want to see anti black asian, go read poli chics crap.
Really? The George Floyd Asian cop was a rookie following orders from a racist white cop (gonna get flamed for that one, I know) but there's no evidence that racism was driving that cop. And I'll disagree that PoliticalChic's motivations are racism but even if you were right in both cases, if that's all you've got then there's no Asian against black racism. You said it was like a problem and since I know there are a lot of very anti-black racist countries in the world, I just assumed you were right about Asian against black racism being a problem but if you can't provide anything to really back it up, I'll assume that this is more IM2 against Asian racism.
Honestly, I find more evidence of IM2 versus the world prejudice than I do anything else.
I remember one lesson - let's call it 2.1. On average, a black individual is over twice as likely to kill a white person as a white individual is to kill a black person.
So, that;'s the white on black and black on white. The numbers, by the way, for the last post and this post come from:
In 2024, white Americans remained the largest racial group in the United States, numbering just over 254 million.
www.statista.com
In 2019, there were 2594 homicides of white people by white people. In the same year, there were 2574 homicides of black people by black people, a difference of just 20.
So what are the lessons we can learn from these two numbers. Just as in the last post, no consideration for multiple killings, etc., were made nor any consideration for motive, circumstance, law enforcement, etc.
1. on average, 1 out of 17,397 black people will kill a black person each year.
2. the same number, 1 out of 17,397 black people will be killed by another black person each year.
3. on average, 1 out of 96669 white people will kill a white person each year.
4. the same number, 1 out of 96669 white people will be killed by another white person each year.
5. a black person is more than 5 times more likely to die at the hands of a black person than a white person is to die at the hands of a white person.
Oh, I forgot a totally interesting set of numbers. 118 black-on-black hate crimes and 118 white-on-white hate crimes per year. Oh, wait.. those probably include anti-gay, or religious hate crimes where the races just happen to be the same; race is not the hate driver is my guess. But still, let's see what that tells us:
1. on average, 1 out of 379,471 black people will suffer a hate crime committed by another black person.
2. the same number, 1 out of 379,471 black people will commit a hate crime against another black person.
3. on average, 1 out of 2,123,389 white people will suffer a hate crime committed by another white person.
4. the same number, 1 out of 2,123,389 white people will commit a hate crime against another white person.
5. Black people are over 5 times as likely to commit a hate crime against their own race as are white people.
6. Black people are over 5 times as likely, compared to white people, to suffer a hate crime committed by a person of their own race.
You're not too good at math, are you? Don't tell me.... You grew up in Baltimore.
The only way the numbers would support your claim would be if we assumed that the person with the fist is a victim of the nose of the person not doing the hitting equally as much as the person with the nose is a victim of the person doing the hitting.
If we admit that both of our races have problems we need to fix, I can agree. But too many times in here whites refuse to do that. But in order to understand how blacks can address our issues, you have to face the criticism of whites who practice racism and the holistic damage thats been and continues to be put on blacks because of it.
Really? The George Floyd Asian cop was a rookie following orders from a racist white cop (gonna get flamed for that one, I know) but there's no evidence that racism was driving that cop. And I'll disagree that PoliticalChic's motivations are racism but even if you were right in both cases, if that's all you've got then there's no Asian against black racism. You said it was like a problem and since I know there are a lot of very anti-black racist countries in the world, I just assumed you were right about Asian against black racism being a problem but if you can't provide anything to really back it up, I'll assume that this is more IM2 against Asian racism.
Honestly, I find more evidence of IM2 versus the world prejudice than I do anything else.
Lol! Of course you do. But IM2 isn't making excuses for an Asian that could have stopped a killing. And neither is the court.
See the problem with those like you is that you believe it's good when people take your shit and don't fight back. That is why you praise so-called black "conservatives."You guys rush to defend Asians because you believe they quietly take your shit and don't complain. And where you got this arrogance, I don't know because whites have never sat quietly and took shit from anyone. There is anti black asian racism, but you watch anti black right wing propaganda and you think that's how things are. Poli chic is an anti black asian racist.
When I say something , its because its so. And I'm ******* tired of you racists defending Asians. Asians don't want you racists defending them.
Without a doubt, the pan-Asian community has faced and continues to face racism, discrimination and xenophobia in America. However, that does not mean the pan-Asian community is the only victim of such mistreatment. In fact, anti-blackness and colorism run deep in our culture, despite the...
I don't apply that false equivalence. Because blacks have not legislated hindrances to other races and for example, you don't talk about Asian racism against blacks. We work to stop or reduce black crime and that is what you are calling black racism by your examples.
The solution is for whites to quit trying to make blacks racists when blacks aren't the ones making the public policies that are the problem. So drop the false equivalences and work to rid racism in the white community. Because THAT has been the overarching problem.
I thought you would blame all your problems on whites and I was right.
Why don’t you raise absolute hell until the school systems actually teach students how to read, write and do math at grade levels? It is hard to be successful if you can’t do the basic things everybody should learn in school. You can’t be a rocket scientist if you can’t do math. You can’t be a brain surgeon if you can’t read. You can be a hamburger flipper and make minimum wage but you will soon be replaced by a robot.
Why don’t you insist the police go back to stop and frisk to make it more difficult for people of any race to be illegally carrying a firearm? Armed gang members start gun fights when they encounter each other and don’t show respect.
Why don’t you insist that minor crimes such as shoplifting be prosecuted before they turn into organized snatch and grab crimes? If enough shoplifting occurs the stores close.
Why don’t you insist on more cops rather than defunding the police?
Why not encourage people to help the police catch the bad guys?
Why not encourage people to stay married so young black boys have a father to teach them how to behave?
Why not vote Democrats out of office in the cites they have run into the ground for half a century and let the Republicans have a try? What have you got to lose?
Why waste your time posting here. You seem smart. Get into politics and make change for the black community happen. Blacks are just as intelligent as whites and can work just as hard if not harder.
You're not too good at math, are you? Don't tell me.... You grew up in Baltimore.
The only way the numbers would support your claim would be if we assumed that the person with the fist is a victim of the nose of the person not doing the hitting equally as much as the person with the nose is a victim of the person doing the hitting.
My math is just fine. Whites victimize whites in approximately the same percentage as blacks victimize blacks. You keep trying to make the inferior black narrative and that's just not something I am going to have.
That is why you praise so-called black "conservatives."You guys rush to defend Asians because you believe they quietly take your shit and don't complain.
Wow. So, tell us how this doesn't make your demographic politically monolithic in nature. I thought you would leap at the idea of a black man or any suffering minority thinking freely and having their own opinions about things.
I thought you would blame all your problems on whites and I was right.
Why don’t you raise absolute hell until the school systems actually teach students how to read, write and do math at grade levels? It is hard to be successful if you can’t do the basic things everybody should learn in school. You can’t be a rocket scientist if you can’t do math. You can’t be a brain surgeon if you can’t read. You can be a hamburger flipper and make minimum wage but you will soon be replaced by a robot.
Why don’t you insist the police go back to stop and frisk to make it more difficult for people of any race to be illegally carrying a firearm? Armed gang members start gun fights when they encounter each other and don’t show respect.
Why don’t you insist that minor crimes such as shoplifting be prosecuted before they turn into organized snatch and grab crimes? If enough shoplifting occurs the stores close.
Why don’t you insist on more cops rather than defunding the police?
Why not encourage people to help the police catch the bad guys?
Why not encourage people to stay married so young black boys have a father to teach them how to behave?
Why not vote Democrats out of office in the cites they have run into the ground for half a century and let the Republicans have a try? What have you got to lose?
Why waste your time posting here. You seem smart. Get into politics and make change for the black community happen. Blacks are just as intelligent as whites and can work just as hard if not harder.
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Wow. So, tell us how this doesn't make your demographic politically monolithic in nature. I thought you would leap at the idea of a black man or any suffering minority thinking freely and having their own opinions about things.
Racism was dying in this nation and then we elected Obama. Obama was a divider not a uniter. So today we watch videos like this, shootouts in New York City, people being attacked in stores and on the streetS and subways.
Blacks behaving badly will undo half a century of progress.
Obama wasn't elected . Democrats cheated in his elections as well . Nobody could question the first black guy elected. With a name like Barack Hussein Obama, no way that many Americans voted for the anti American Muslim Brotherhood lover and friend to Iran. No way.
Lol! Of course you do. But IM2 isn't making excuses for an Asian that could have stopped a killing. And neither is the court.
See the problem with those like you is that you believe it's good when people take your shit and don't fight back. That is why you praise so-called black "conservatives."You guys rush to defend Asians because you believe they quietly take your shit and don't complain. And where you got this arrogance, I don't know because whites have never sat quietly and took shit from anyone. There is anti black asian racism, but you watch anti black right wing propaganda and you think that's how things are. Poli chic is an anti black asian racist.
When I say something , its because its so. And I'm ******* tired of you racists defending Asians. Asians don't want you racists defending them.
Without a doubt, the pan-Asian community has faced and continues to face racism, discrimination and xenophobia in America. However, that does not mean the pan-Asian community is the only victim of such mistreatment. In fact, anti-blackness and colorism run deep in our culture, despite the...
I don't make excuses for the Asian cop either. Those cops should have tazed Chauvin, or even shot him if necessary. I've always said that any cop that doesn't arrest another cop who won't stop violating someone's rights and is putting someone in danger is as much of the problem as is the cop committing the violence. Any cop that is part of the blue wall of silence is a crooked cop. But the Asian cop's failure was a cop failure, not a racist Asian failure. Not everything that happens to a black person by any person not black is racist.
Your links do not demonstrate or prove any Asian on black racism. They talk about theories about how Asians come to be anti-black, and how white people are at fault when Asians are anti-black but there's nothing there about any anti-black racist Asians.
One of the articles tries to paint Asians as anti-black racists because Asians do better in college admissions and every seat an Asian gets is a seat that can't be given to a lower-scoring black person.
The Brown.edu article, written by a self-loathing Asian, taught to hate herself and her race because she's not black, makes this absurd, word-salad, statement:
While there is no doubt that a nuanced understanding of the Model Minority mythology oppresses and undermines our agency of self-formation as Asian Americans, there are ways in which Asian Americans have benefitted from the pseudoscientific notion that particularly East Asian Americans are pathologically superior to Black Americans.
What the hell does that even mean? How sad that a person, any person, has been taught to hate themselves that much.
One article you posted talked about the closed societies in some Asian countries as being the source of their anti-black racism and I can understand that can happen. But the racism in any totalitarian, authoritarian, country has the same roots as the current waves of racism in America: Communism and Socialism, including authoritarianism and totalitarianism, depend on the people hating each other for two reasons: One, if they are focused on hating each other then they're not focusing on hating or fighting the government. Two, it allows the government, in spite of having created or inflamed the racism, to pretend to be fighting to resolve the racism and pretend to be the protectors of the victims of the very racism they fomented. While pretending to analyze the fundamental cause of anti-black racism in the Asian communities, the article actually does not at all describe any racism happening against black people by Asians.
But, in the end, you've totally failed in demonstrating a single bit of Asian on black racism. I actually believe it exists because there's always some racists in any large group, and I don't deny that, but you're talking out of your ass when you talk about it because you obviously have zero knowledge of any actual anti-black racism in the Asian community. All you have is theoretical causes but no actuals.
Obama wasn't elected . Democrats cheated in his elections as well . Nobody could question the first black guy elected. With a name like Barack Hussein Obama, no way that many Americans voted for the anti American Muslim Brotherhood lover and friend to Iran. No way.
Interesting point, however I think a lot of people did vote for Obama hoping if he became President it would mark the end of racism. Unfortunately Obama was the great divider not the great uniter.
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