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After 2000 years, you're not a squatter, you're a resident.It's not about right of return for Arab squatters, it's about joooooo killing and "Moslem lands".
Read the Hamas charter.
And the Zionists started the killing.
The Hamas Charter is outdated and irrelevant.
The "Chauvinist Arab version of history," then--so important to the current claim of "Palestinian" rights to "Arab Palestine," which Arab Palestinians PURPORTEDLY inhabited for "Thousands of years" --omits several relevant, situation-altering facts.
History did not begin with the Arab conquest in the seventh century.
The people whose nation was destroyed by the Romans were the Jews. There were no Arab Palestinians then -- not until 700 years later would an Arab rule prevail, and then Briefly.
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From the time the Arabians, along with their non-Arabian recruits, entered Palestine and Syria, they found and themselves added to what was "ethnologically a Chaos of all the possible human combinations to which, when Palestine became a land of pilgrimage, a new admixture was added."1 Among the peoples who have been counted as "indigenous Palestinian Arabs" are Balkans, Greeks, Syrians, Latins, Egyptians, Turks, Armenians, Italians, Persians, Kurds, Germans, Afghans, Circassians, Bosnians, Sudanese, Samaritans, Algerians, Motawila, and Tartars.
John of Wurzburg lists for the middle era of the kingdom, Latins, Germans, Hungarians, Scots, Navarese, Bretons, English, Franks, Ruthenians, Bohemians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Georgians, Armenians, Syrians, Persian Nestorians, Indians,Egyptians, Copts, Maronites and natives from the Nile Delta. The list might be much extended, for it was the period of the great self-willed city-states in Europe, and Amalfi, Pisans, Genoese, Venetians, and Marseillais, who had quarters in all the bigger cities, owned villages, and had trading rights, would, in all probability, have submitted to any of the above designations, only under pressure. Besides all these, Norsemen, Danes, Frisians, Tartars, Jews, Arabs, Russians, Nubians, and Samaritans, can be safely added to the greatest human agglomeration drawn together in one small area of the globe."2
Greeks fled the Muslim rule in Greece, and landed in Palestine. By the mid-17 century, the Greeks lived everywhere in the Holy Land--constituting about 20% of the population-and their authority dominated the villages.3 ..... "In some cases villages [in Palestine] are populated wholly by settlers from other portions of the Turkish Empire within the 19th century. There are villages of Bosnians, Druzes, Circassians and Egyptians," one historian has reported. 5
...Encyclopaedia Britannica (1911)... finds the "population" of Palestine composed of so "widely differing" a group of "inhabitants" -- whose "ethnological affinities" create "early in the 20th century a list of no less than 50 languages" (see below) -- that "it is therefore no easy task to write concisely ... on the ethnology of Palestine."
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The Disparate peoples recently assumed and purported to be "settled Arab indigenes, for a Thousand years" were in fact a "Heterogeneous" community with No "Palestinian" identity, and according to an official British historical analysis in 1920, NO Arab identity either:
"The people west of the Jordan are Not Arabs, but Only Arabic-speaking. The bulk of the population are fellahin.... In the Gaza district they are mostly of Egyptian origin; elsewhere they are of the most Mixed race." 8[.....]
Good post, abu afak, thanks.
I have always said that Palestine is Arab like the US is English. In reality both have very diverse populations. Defining either nationality according to ancestry is as futile as it is irrelevant.
Who was living there at the country's inception and who legally immigrated afterwards to become loyal citizens are the only true factors for nationality.
And your bigoted racism gets old.You're whining is outdated and irrelevant.
There not squatters, scumbag whore.Arab squatters are much more recent than 2,000 years ago.
Arab crusaders went in to protect the rights of indigenous arabs.Arab crusaders began their hoped-for genocide of the Jewish people in Israel in 1948.
It will after Israel ends the occupation and blockade.The Hamas charter mirrors fascist, colonialist islamist ideology. That has never changed.
And your bigoted racism gets old.You're whining is outdated and irrelevant.
There not squatters, scumbag whore.Arab squatters are much more recent than 2,000 years ago.
Arab crusaders went in to protect the rights of indigenous arabs.Arab crusaders began their hoped-for genocide of the Jewish people in Israel in 1948.
It will after Israel ends the occupation and blockade.The Hamas charter mirrors fascist, colonialist islamist ideology. That has never changed.
I'm sorry, but the historical record say's you're full of shit!You're hardly a comedian.
The Arab squatters who occupied "Palestine" were given the Bums' Rush out of the way as Arab Crusader armies began their hoped-for mass murder of Jews.
As they had tried and failed in '48, they took a Hudna to re-arm, equip., and to shake off the pain of failure and defeat, only to be humiliated again, and again...
You see that? All they wanted was their inalienable rights. And when they resisted, Zionists responded with violence.During the period of the Mandate, the Zionist Organization worked to secure the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. The indigenous people of Palestine, whose forefathers had inhabited the land for virtually the two preceding millennia felt this design to be a violation of their natural and inalienable rights. They also viewed it as an infringement of assurances of independence given by the Allied Powers to Arab leaders in return for their support during the war. The result was mounting resistance to the Mandate by Palestinian Arabs, followed by resort to violence by the Jewish community as the Second World War drew to a close.
I'm sorry, but the historical record say's you're full of shit!You're hardly a comedian.
The Arab squatters who occupied "Palestine" were given the Bums' Rush out of the way as Arab Crusader armies began their hoped-for mass murder of Jews.
As they had tried and failed in '48, they took a Hudna to re-arm, equip., and to shake off the pain of failure and defeat, only to be humiliated again, and again...
You see that? All they wanted was their inalienable rights. And when they resisted, Zionists responded with violence.During the period of the Mandate, the Zionist Organization worked to secure the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. The indigenous people of Palestine, whose forefathers had inhabited the land for virtually the two preceding millennia felt this design to be a violation of their natural and inalienable rights. They also viewed it as an infringement of assurances of independence given by the Allied Powers to Arab leaders in return for their support during the war. The result was mounting resistance to the Mandate by Palestinian Arabs, followed by resort to violence by the Jewish community as the Second World War drew to a close.
None of that makes any sense.So the same nations that are immersed in their own civil wars in the past and in the present were SO concerned for their Aran brethren for 1 day in 1948.
Gee, why don't the Syrians and Egyptians stop murdering each other right this very moment and roll those good old tanks into Israel to save their brothers?
Do you think this constant animal like behavior passes muster?
I'm sorry, but the historical record say's you're full of shit!You're hardly a comedian.
The Arab squatters who occupied "Palestine" were given the Bums' Rush out of the way as Arab Crusader armies began their hoped-for mass murder of Jews.
As they had tried and failed in '48, they took a Hudna to re-arm, equip., and to shake off the pain of failure and defeat, only to be humiliated again, and again...
You see that? All they wanted was their inalienable rights. And when they resisted, Zionists responded with violence.During the period of the Mandate, the Zionist Organization worked to secure the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. The indigenous people of Palestine, whose forefathers had inhabited the land for virtually the two preceding millennia felt this design to be a violation of their natural and inalienable rights. They also viewed it as an infringement of assurances of independence given by the Allied Powers to Arab leaders in return for their support during the war. The result was mounting resistance to the Mandate by Palestinian Arabs, followed by resort to violence by the Jewish community as the Second World War drew to a close.
That's true to, but it doesn't negate what I said.I'm always willing to help out the knuckleheads.
The Arab-Israeli War of 1948 - 1945?1952 - Milestones - Office of the Historian
The United Nations resolution sparked conflict between Jewish and Arab groups within Palestine. Fighting began with attacks by irregular bands of Palestinian Arabs attached to local units of the Arab Liberation Army composed of volunteers from Palestine and neighboring Arab countries. These groups launched their attacks against Jewish cities, settlements, and armed forces. The Jewish forces were composed of the Haganah, the underground militia of the Jewish community in Palestine, and two small irregular groups, the Irgun, and LEHI. The goal of the Arabs was initially to block the Partition Resolution and to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The Jews, on the other hand, hoped to gain control over the territory allotted to them under the Partition Plan.
Evidently, Tinmore, something went wrong somewhere and the Palis didn't get a state. WTF happened or did they slip a turd into the punch bowl. They're "negotiating" as we speak and say things should be settled in another 4 months. Give or take a few decades. Gotta fix it so welfare isn't cut off, right?Mandate began in 1920. Transjordan was establish a year later. It did not become a state of Jordan till 1946.
Palestinians were give Jordanian citizenship in 1950. Some were striped of that citizenship in 2007.
Britain did not assume its Mandatory responsibilities until September 29, 1923.
Palestine's international borders were defined, its nationality and citizenship were set, before the beginning of the mandate.
Treaty of Versailles (1919)
Treaty of Sèvres (1920)
San Remo conference in 1920
Evidently, Tinmore, something went wrong somewhere and the Palis didn't get a state. WTF happened or did they slip a turd into the punch bowl. They're "negotiating" as we speak and say things should be settled in another 4 months. Give or take a few decades. Gotta fix it so welfare isn't cut off, right?Britain did not assume its Mandatory responsibilities until September 29, 1923.
Palestine's international borders were defined, its nationality and citizenship were set, before the beginning of the mandate.
Good post, abu afak, thanks.
I have always said that Palestine is Arab like the US is English. In reality both have very diverse populations. Defining either nationality according to ancestry is as futile as it is irrelevant.
Who was living there at the country's inception and who legally immigrated afterwards to become loyal citizens are the only true factors for nationality.
There is nothing diverse about the population of "Palestine". As is typical with regions where islamists gain strength of numbers, competing faiths, cultures are subject to discrimination and marginalization.
These are some good dam jews!Young Jews say the settlements delegitimize Israel!
Young Jews say the Occupation delegitimizes Israel!
Young Jews say the siege of Gaza delegitimizes Israel
Young Jews say the loyalty oath delegitimizes Israel!
Young Jews say silencing dissent delegitimizes Israel!
Good post, abu afak, thanks.
I have always said that Palestine is Arab like the US is English. In reality both have very diverse populations. Defining either nationality according to ancestry is as futile as it is irrelevant.
Who was living there at the country's inception and who legally immigrated afterwards to become loyal citizens are the only true factors for nationality.
There is nothing diverse about the population of "Palestine". As is typical with regions where islamists gain strength of numbers, competing faiths, cultures are subject to discrimination and marginalization.
Israeli police deny Christians access to their holy sites for celebrations.
Christians celebrate in the West Bank without a cop in sight.
Christians celebrate in Gaza without a cop in sight.
Churches in Israel: Christians luckier than Muslims | The Economist
There is nothing diverse about the population of "Palestine". As is typical with regions where islamists gain strength of numbers, competing faiths, cultures are subject to discrimination and marginalization.
Israeli police deny Christians access to their holy sites for celebrations.
Christians celebrate in the West Bank without a cop in sight.
Christians celebrate in Gaza without a cop in sight.
