Hell, it is you 'Conservatives' that are hiding under the bed and wailing 'commie, commie' everytime somebody with ideas more recent than 1800 enters the political discourse.
We're anything but afraid for ourselves. We're afraid for the weak..... IOW, you and people like you.
In any system, under any government we'll rise to the top. Always have always will.
We'll still be the Engineers, the leaders and the seers that ever society needs.
You? You'll just be Prols.
So don't think we're fighting collectivism for ourselves. We're not. I'm telling you straight up... We'll be fine.
We don't want what will happen to you and yours to happen.
As to the 1800 stupidity? Funny stuff. That's not it, it's that -- Well, Every time, EVERY SINGLE TIME, your stupid system has EVER BEEN TRIED?
It's failed. Every time.
Out of over 100 attempts? Failure. Every.Single.Time.
Our way?
Success. Every single time.
Did you know, that in the 2,500 years since democracy was first invented, there has not been a single War -- EVER -- Between two democracies?
Not one.
Your way? It's all you ******* morons do.
You kill Monarchists, you kill Capitalists, you kill democrats and republicans, you kill each other, you commit genocides and holodomors, you wipe out entire races of people....
You're a disease, not a political philosophy and if it weren't for our Constitution, there'd be a bounty on you.