Elon Musk publicized the names of government employees he wants to cut. It’s terrifying federal workers

So apparently the goal isn't just to cut out waste and save money, it's also to intimidate and terrify other people, in this case the federal workforce. Sadly, this is not news to me.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/busi...ex.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

CNN —​
When President-elect Donald Trump said Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy would recommend major cuts to the federal government in his administration, many public employees knew that their jobs could be on the line.​
Now they have a new fear: becoming the personal targets of the world’s richest man – and his legions of followers.​
Last week, in the midst of the flurry of his daily missives, Musk reposted two X posts that revealed the names and titles of people holding four relatively obscure climate-related government positions. Each post has been viewed tens of millions of times, and the individuals named have been subjected to a barrage of negative attention. At least one of the four women named has deleted her social media accounts.​
Although the information he posted on those government positions is available through public online databases, these posts target otherwise unknown government employees in roles that do not deal directly with the public.​

Several current federal employees told CNN they’re afraid their lives will be forever changed – including physically threatened – as Musk makes behind-the-scenes bureaucrats into personal targets. Others told CNN that the threat of being in Musk’s crosshairs might even drive them from their jobs entirely – achieving Musk’s smaller government goals without so much as a proper review.​
“These tactics are aimed at sowing terror and fear at federal employees,” said Everett Kelley, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 800,000 of the 2.3 million civilian federal employees. “It’s intended to make them fearful that they will become afraid to speak up.”​
This isn’t new behavior for Musk, who has often singled out individuals who he claims have made mistakes or stand in his way. One former federal employee, previously targeted by Musk, said she experienced something very similar.​
“It’s his way of intimidating people to either quit or also send a signal to all the other agencies that ‘you’re next’,” said Mary “Missy” Cummings, an engineering and computer science professor at George Mason University, who drew Musk’s ire because of her criticisms of Tesla when she was at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.​

Going dark after attacks​

Last week Musk reposted an account with the handle Fentasyl and the name “Datahazard,” which describes itself as “Unincorporated Think Tank ~~ Focus: Govt Efficiency, Civil Rights, Victim Advocacy.”​
One of the posts reads: “I don’t think the US taxpayers should pay for the employment of a ’Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)’ at the US International Development Finance Corporation,” with a partial screengrab of an employee and her location.​
Musk, who called himself “super pro climate” in an X post last year, reposted and commented: “So many fake jobs.” The post has received more than 33 million views and a storm of negative comments. Some called the role a “fraud job” and others demanded Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency cut jobs like it. One user commented: “Gravy train is over.”​
It appears the woman Musk targeted has since gone dark on social media, shutting down her accounts. The agency, the US International Development Finance Corporation, says it supports investment in climate mitigation, resilience and adaptation in low-income countries experiencing the most devastating effects of climate change. A DFC official said the agency does not comment on individual personnel positions or matters.​
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Musk also called out the Department of Energy’s chief climate officer in its loan programs office. The office funds fledgling energy technologies in need of early investment and awarded $465 million to Tesla Motors in 2010, helping to position Musk’s electric vehicle company as an EV industry leader. The chief climate officer works across agencies to “reduce barriers and enable clean energy deployment” according to her online bio.​
Another woman, who serves as senior advisor on environmental justice and climate change at the Department of Health and Human Services, was another Musk target. HHS focuses on protecting the public health from pollution and other environmental hazards, especially in low-income communities and communities of color that are experiencing a higher share of exposures and impacts. The office first launched at Health and Human Services under the Biden administration in 2022.​
A senior adviser to climate at the Department of Housing and Urban Development was also singled out. The original X post said the woman “should not be paid $181,648.00 by the US taxpayer to be the ‘Climate advisor’ at HUD.” Musk reposted with the comment: “But maybe her advice is amazing.” Followed by two laughing emojis.​
CNN reached out to all four federal employees who either declined comment or were unable to be reached. CNN also reached out to HHS, DOE and HUD for comment.​
X did not respond to an email seeking comment.​
The AFGE public union pointed out that as a federal contractor, Musk himself has benefited from government programs, with $750 billion per year spent on federal contractors compared to about $200 billion for the civilian federal workforce. “We are a comparative steal, and we want to help clean it up too,” Kelley said.​

Putting people in harm’s way​

Musk has done this kind of thing before – and it’s led to real danger for the people named.​
Missy Cummings angered Musk when she was appointed a senior advisor at the NHTSA because her research and public comments were critical of Tesla’s driver-assist programs and she had called for regulating the systems.​
Musk targeted Cummings on what was then called Twitter, and his legions of fans followed.​
In an interview, Cummings said she received a torrent of attacks, including death threats, and had to temporarily relocate before she eventually moved.​
Cummings said she already knows of federal employees who “have dedicated their lives to civil service,” already quitting their jobs in anticipation of what’s to come.​
“He intended for them, for people just like this, to be intimidated and just go ahead and quit so he didn’t have to fire them. So his plan, to some extent, is working,” she said.​
CNN reached out to multiple experts and academics who specialize in cyber harassment, doxing and online abuse. But several declined to comment on the record for fear of themselves becoming Musk’s targets.​
“What has happened has an incredible and horrific chilling effect,” one of them said.​
Another said they are “not surprised” with Musk’s re-posts, adding they are an example of a “classic pattern” of cyber harassment.​
What do you think?2.3K comments have been posted​
Ramaswamy did not directly respond to questions about singling out individual federal employees but told CNN: “Most federal employees, like most human beings, are fundamentally good people and deserve to be treated with respect, but the real problem is the bureaucracy.”​
“Our opponent is not any particular individual. Our opponent is the bureaucracy,” he added.​
In a follow-up post, the Fentasyl account, which itself is anonymous, wrote: “It goes without saying that you should not harass someone solely because they hold a senior government plum job that should probably not exist,” the account posted. “But senior government officials are not mere rank-and-file employees. We deserve to know who is running our government & what they do.”​
Cummings, who was also one of the first female fighter pilots in the US Navy, said she felt an obligation to speak out.​
“Somebody has got to speak out,” she said. “I’m just not going to let him win on this point.”
Trump won, so he did
 
Lisa is all about others losing things that they have earned. Because she doesn't ever believe that they've truly earned those things, determined from what she regularly posts.
Remember when all those jobs were lost cause of conspiracy Wuhan? They all earned those
 
Lisa is all about others losing things that they have earned. Because she doesn't ever believe that they've truly earned those things, determined from what she regularly posts.
Lmao

Govt needs to be cut. We have a 2.1 plus YEARLY DEFICIT.

We have to pay 13% of the budget on interest on the debt and growing.

281 billion a year now that is WE DONT KNOW WHERE IT WENT???

LMAO. They are STEALING IT.

100s of Billions in gifts to the world we BORROW TO GIVE.

WE ARE HEADING TO A DEFAULT AND A RESET.
 
Precisely. Employees in the private industry get laid off all the time when their company is operating in the red, so why do these liberals insist that taxpayers keep paying for government employees when the government is operating in the red - AND when the employees are scamming the public by not even going into the office and instead putting in a few hours a day?
Why are you so convinced that when people work remotely that they only work a few hours a day/week? Is that what you do, defraud your employer?

I was hired by a company to work on a software project they had way back in 1994 and I was so pleased to be able to tell my manager that I had a software app that would log my activity on my computer, keeping track of when I was working and when I wasn't after they told me I could telecommute if I wanted to. I was told that I didn't need to do that which surprised me because I was trying to show them that they could rest assured that I was working when I should be. When I asked them how they would be able to keep track of my work without something to track my time, their reply was simple - "well if you're turning in your work, then we just assume you're working".

I consider this a great working model although I realize that not everyone can work in this manner.
 
If I were them I would leave now. The government gravy train is over. How can you complain when Musk is doing them a huge favor in giving them two month’s notice instead of two week’s? With such long notice, they are already receiving their severance pay! So, none needed.
That's not how it works, if they are attempting to scare people into quitting, those works may panic and then end up losing many of the benefits that come with a RIF (reduction in [work]force), such as unemployment benefits and severance.
 
Why are you so convinced that when people work remotely that they only work a few hours a day/week? Is that what you do, defraud your employer?

I was hired by a company to work on a software project they had way back in 1994 and I was so pleased to be able to tell my manager that I had a software app that would log my activity on my computer, keeping track of when I was working and when I wasn't after they told me I could telecommute if I wanted to. I was told that I didn't need to do that which surprised me because I was trying to show them that they could rest assured that I was working when I should be. When I asked them how they would be able to keep track of my work without something to track my time, their reply was simple - "well if you're turning in your work, then we just assume you're working".

I consider this a great working model although I realize that not everyone can work in this manner.
It isn’t their job, so it’s them abusing our trust
 
Why are you so convinced that when people work remotely that they only work a few hours a day/week? Is that what you do, defraud your employer?

I was hired by a company to work on a software project they had way back in 1994 and I was so pleased to be able to tell my manager that I had a software app that would log my activity on my computer, keeping track of when I was working and when I wasn't after they told me I could telecommute if I wanted to. I was told that I didn't need to do that which surprised me because I was trying to show them that they could rest assured that I was working when I should be. When I asked them how they would be able to keep track of my work without something to track my time, their reply was simple - "well if you're turning in your work, then we just assume you're working".

I consider this a great working model although I realize that not everyone can work in this manner.
Tell me how 771000 DOD workers could work from home without secure servers?
 
Showing up for work isn't suffering. Billions of people do it everyday.
During COVID many employers found out that they had workers who could get their work done from home without being less productive. Now that things are back to normal for the most part the highways and streets are congested once again and some companies such as Amazon want to make it even worse by demanding their workforce return to the office full-time.

I know of multiple software surveillance apps that employers do and can use to monitor their workers while they are utilizing the company's computers. Our Helpdesk can remote into our computers both with & without our explicit permission.

There is no reason a person has to be working in an office or cubicle for many positions other than "because" their employer wants them to. In the case of Trump, Musk & Ramaswamy if the commute is a hardship, which it can be in many metro areas, it would be nice if those workers could be allowed to continue to work remotely.
 
During COVID many employers found out that they had workers who could get their work done from home without being less productive. Now that things are back to normal for the most part the highways and streets are congested once again and some companies such as Amazon want to make it even worse by demanding their workforce return to the office full-time.

I know of multiple software surveillance apps that employers do and can use to monitor their workers while they are utilizing the company's computers. Our Helpdesk can remote into our computers both with & without our explicit permission.

There is no reason a person has to be working in an office or cubicle for many positions other than "because" their employer wants them to. In the case of Trump, Musk & Ramaswamy if the commute is a hardship, which it can be in many metro areas, it would be nice if those workers could be allowed to continue to work remotely.
Showing up for work is still not a hardship. It's basic. It should be expected.
 
It can be, if you have to fight traffic for an hour or more each way just to get to your job. Those hours spent in traffic could be productivity hours instead.
Welcome to the real world. You are expecting people who have to commute to work continue to go pay the salaries of those who refuse to - AND when the government needs to right-size.

The telecommuting scam is about to end. if Government workers require to show up to work refuse to, they are welcome to find a job that allows them to work from home four days a week, doing half-time jobs for full-time salaries.

Unless you live in the DC area, you have no clue as to how Governmwnt workers have been scamming the taxpayers for years.
 
For every government worker who actually produces a work product, there are at least a dozen who either actively make his job harder, or ride his coattails. I’ve said for decades that government managers should be awarded a small percentage of any savings they can make in their budgets WITHOUT reducing the productivity of his/her work group. I’d bet that government spending could be cut fifty percent the first year without affecting productivity at all,
For every government worker who actually produces a work product, there are at least a dozen who either actively make his job harder, or ride his coattails
that is a reality in the Post Office....many middle management people have jobs created for them because they couldn't carry mail or they couldn't be a clerk...and they do make the job harder
 
Why are you so convinced that when people work remotely that they only work a few hours a day/week? Is that what you do, defraud your employer?

I was hired by a company to work on a software project they had way back in 1994 and I was so pleased to be able to tell my manager that I had a software app that would log my activity on my computer, keeping track of when I was working and when I wasn't after they told me I could telecommute if I wanted to. I was told that I didn't need to do that which surprised me because I was trying to show them that they could rest assured that I was working when I should be. When I asked them how they would be able to keep track of my work without something to track my time, their reply was simple - "well if you're turning in your work, then we just assume you're working".

I consider this a great working model although I realize that not everyone can work in this manner.
1) I am retired.

2) What your private employer does is no business of the taxpayer.

3) The reason government employers “get their work done” in three hours a day (while being paid for eight) is becsuse there is so little work assigned to them to begin with, and that is because the government is so overstuffed that there isn’t enough work to go around.

4) I live 30 minutes from DC, and government workers here have gone on ski trips, to visit family for a week, on international vacations - ALL WHILE THE TAXPAYERS CONTINUE TO PAY THEIR SALARIES. They are at restaurants for two-hour lunches, at the swimming pool, taking tennis lessons, or doing grocery shopping. These are all real-world examples.
 
Awwwwwww, poor babies.
GTFOH
:rolleyes:
The degree of entitlement is surreal, isn’t it?

(Also, bet you didn’t know that govt workers are paid a stipend for commuting on the Metro.)
 

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