Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy Face Backlash from MAGA Movement for Not Only Backing But Offering More Visas to Foreign-Born Skilled Workers

[Zincwarrior]

Laura Loomer and far right activists clashed on X with Sriram Krishnan -Trump's new pick for AI and Vivek over increasing H1B visas and plans by DOGE to increase the numbers. Apparently the tech side want to substantially increase the number of H1B visas, whereas other MAGA activists view this as foreigners reducing salaries and taking US jobs. Thoughts?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/12/27/h-1b-visas-elon-musk-trump-immigration/

Far-right activists clashed online with billionaire Elon Musk and other supporters of President-elect Donald Trump over the need for a skilled-worker immigration program that has long been a lifeblood for Silicon Valley — signifying a potential rift between Trump’s core nationalist base and technology executives who have come to support him.

The fight that spilled into public view over the holiday week could preview a wedge within Trump’s coalition over how to execute immigration policy, an issue that animated Trump’s White House campaign.
The controversy spread across X after far-right activist Laura Loomer on Monday criticized Trump’s choice to name Sriram Krishnan, a technology entrepreneur and investor who was born in India, as his senior policy adviser on artificial intelligence. She pointed to Krishnan’s previous support for removing some caps on H-1B visas, a program allowing foreigners with technical skills to work in the United States. The policy is “in direct opposition” to Trump’s agenda, Loomer wrote.


The critique ran headlong into tension with some of Trump’s closest advisers, notably Tesla and SpaceX CEO Musk; David Sacks who will be the president-elect’s AI and crypto czar; and Vivek Ramaswamy, who will co-lead a commission to cut government spending. “‘Normalcy’ doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent,” Ramaswamy said. “And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our a--es handed to us by China.”

The online fight sparked a slew of racist posts from Loomer falsely describing Indians as “third world invaders" with low IQs, while saying it is fueling a “civil war” between Trump’s far-right base and the “tech bros” that have come to support his upcoming administration.
Notable Republicans, including former GOP presidential candidate Nikki Haley, championed Loomer’s position. “There is nothing wrong with American workers or American culture,” she said Thursday on X. “We should be investing and prioritizing in Americans, not foreign workers.”

Musk, who once held an H-1B visa and has relied on the program to employ thousands of Tesla employees, said the program is a crucial way technology companies recruit the best engineering talent to compete globally. “The number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low,” Musk wrote on X on Christmas. “If you want your TEAM to win the championship, you need to recruit top talent wherever they may be.”
The online feud reflects the challenges that Trump will have holding together the delicate political coalition that delivered him the White House, which included unprecedented levels of financial support from Musk and other Silicon Valley billionaires.
“It’s a sign of future conflicts,” said Samuel Hammond, a senior economist at the Foundation for American Innovation. “This is like the pregame.”

 

[1srelluc]

dupe

Elon Musk Deactivates Laura Loomer

my head hurts trying to figure out this drama, is maga for or against? who is doing what, why and how? ugh politics

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[martybegan]

Laura Loomer and far right activists clashed on X with Sriram Krishnan -Trump's new pick for AI and Vivek over increasing H1B visas and plans by DOGE to increase the numbers. Apparently the tech side want to substantially increase the number of H1B visas, whereas other MAGA activists view this as foreigners reducing salaries and taking US jobs. Thoughts?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/12/27/h-1b-visas-elon-musk-trump-immigration/

 

[DonGlock26]

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy Face Backlash from MAGA Movement for Not Only Backing But Offering More Visas to Foreign-Born Skilled Workers​

Tech magnate Elon Musk and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy sparked a heated online debate over the contentious H-1B visa program, putting them at odds with MAGA hardliners who see high-skilled immigration as a threat to American workers.

The H-1B visa is a non-immigrant visa that allows U.S. employers to hire foreign workers in specialty occupations requiring specialized knowledge and a bachelor’s degree or higher. These occupations often include fields like IT, engineering, mathematics, and medicine.

As of September 30, 2019, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) estimated that approximately 583,420 individuals were authorized to work in the United States under the H-1B visa classification.

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy Face Backlash from MAGA Movement for Not Only Backing But Offering More Visas to Foreign-Born Skilled Workers | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy's controversial comments on the H-1B visa program ignite a fierce debate about American workforce motivation and the future of high-skilled immigration. Dive into the details.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

H-1B visas mean cheap foreign labor to the tech industry. It will be interesting to see what Trump does with this dispute.

 

[DonGlock26]

Vivek is desperate to flood the US with foreign cheap labor.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Personally, I am sure they will increase4 the H1B visa numbers, but Trump will raid a chicken ranch or two and MAGA will be convinced he has "solved" illegal immigration.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Laura Loomer and far right activists clashed on X with Sriram Krishnan -Trump's new pick for AI and Vivek over increasing H1B visas and plans by DOGE to increase the numbers. Apparently the tech side want to substantially increase the number of H1B visas, whereas other MAGA activists view this as foreigners reducing salaries and taking US jobs. Thoughts?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/12/27/h-1b-visas-elon-musk-trump-immigration/

/——/ There definitely a shortage of qualified tech workers in the US. Secondly, foreign workers will accept lower wages than US workers. It’s a tough situation.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Personally, I am sure they will increase4 the H1B visa numbers, but Trump will raid a chicken ranch or two and MAGA will be convinced he has "solved" illegal immigration.

/—-/ That’s your dream, isn’t it? You want him to fail when solving the illegal immigration nightmare.

 

[Gracie]

Not the best move by those two.

 

[1srelluc]

Thread #3.....Wakey-wakey mods.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Touching a wall is a vow?

TIL

You'd have to open your eyes to see the clear symbolism!! Do Presidents and global dignitaries travel across the globe to visit and kiss a statue of Buddha or Deva? Nope.

 

[DonGlock26]

Not the best move by those two.

Agreed.

 

[Gracie]

Gotta side with Loomer on this one. Pretty sure there are very capable citizens here with no need to import from other countries. It smacks of what USA did with Nazi's after the war. We brought a buttload of them here instead of throwing their sorry asses in prison.

 

[SaxonJackson]

my head hurts trying to figure out this drama, is maga for or against? who is doing what, why and how? ugh politics

I'm for MAGA keeping the promise of reducing the size of government. Of sending illegals back to their homelands. For spending cuts. For promoting American business and job growth. For draining the Swamp.

If they turn out to be a new version of "NEOCON" then I will oppose them like I do any government that lies to the American people and works against our interests.

 

[Oddball]

Little data actually supports the tech industry’s claims of a worker shortage and a need to end H1B country caps. The data does suggest, however, that big tech is replacing qualified and capable American workers with cheaper foreign labor.

Between 2022 and 2024, Amazon laid off nearly 30,000 high-skilled workers. In the same period—though in compliance with federal law regarding when companies can request H1B visa workers—the online retail giant expanded its workforce by nearly 100,000 foreign workers.

Big Tech’s H1B Arguments Aren’t Just FALSE… They’re Also Immoral.

thenationalpulse.com

 

[Zincwarrior]

/—-/ That’s your dream, isn’t it? You want him to fail when solving the illegal immigration nightmare.

Nope. I just know his interests lie in NOT doing that, just pretending to. I am very much for border enforcement, changing the law related to refugee status, and pursuing those who have overstayed visas / court cases etc.

However its ALL A JOKE if E Verify and felony penalties are not enforced against employers. NEITHER PARTY wants to cut off the low wage cocaine high.

 

[DonGlock26]

December 26, 2024

Vivek steps in it with Trump's base on H1-B visas​

By Monica Showalter


Vivek Ramaswamy, who has impressed so many these past few months, seems to have made a misstep in his task leading the Department of Government Efficiency, co-chaired with Elon Musk.

He put out this lengthy tweet:
The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. Tough questions demand tough answers & if…

— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) December 26, 2024
Which didn't go over well with quite a few supporters of President Trump.

Vivek steps in it with Trump's base on H1-B visas

He probably didn't mean to, but he didn't help President Trump any with his criticism of American culture.

www.americanthinker.com

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Americans like people who come to America legally.

America is wise to bring the world's talent to its shores and away from its competitors.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Americans, unlike democrats, do not function as a hive mind cult.

Bringing the world's best to America is good for Americans.

 

[Godboy]

H-1B visas mean cheap foreign labor to the tech industry. It will be interesting to see what Trump does with this dispute.

We should ONLY allow skilled workers into this country. They should also have a job lined up before they come. They also should NEVER get one cent of tax dollars for welfare or any other social program.