Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy Face Backlash from MAGA Movement for Not Only Backing But Offering More Visas to Foreign-Born Skilled Workers

[egp320i]

my head hurts trying to figure out this drama, is maga for or against? who is doing what, why and how? ugh politics

 

[Toro]

 

[justoffal]

I agree with Elon Musk on the issue, and I can't stand Laura Loomer, but Loomer is dead right about Musk being a hypocrite.



For those not following the drama on Twitter, Musk stripped Loomer of her status as both Musk and Vivek came out in support of hiring foreign nationals via the H-1B process. Loomer and other pro-MAGA accounts blasted them both for doing so.

The thing about MAGA embracing the techno broligarchs is that deep down, the broligarchs are pro- immigration. And MAGA is not.

Nah ....H1b is a well-established program that fully documents its participants and brings value to the economy. If bears absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to illegal immigration. However I have to defend Loomer on the issue because they (H1b) do absolutely take jobs away from American skilled workers at a lower rate of pay. I think it was absolutely wrong for Loomer to lose her posting privileges and I hope Musk thinks better of it and fixes the problem.... I'm thinking that he wasn't directly involved in this. Time will tell.

BROLIGARCH! ( EXCELLENT NEW WORD!)

 

[Toro]

 

[SaxonJackson]

Trump is better than Biden. But remember one, important point: Every American President for the past few decades has vowed (or vows) their allegiance to someone other than the American people. This is true of other national leaders as well:

Nobody has truly put "America First" since our Founding Fathers.

 

[Toro]

 

[Mister Iggy]

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If Vivek is saying such things, he is over in politics. He will never be able to dig himself out of that hole.

 

[SaxonJackson]

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No. Canada has a son of a Cuban Communist Dictator telling it what to do.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I agree with Elon Musk on the issue, and I can't stand Laura Loomer, but Loomer is dead right about Musk being a hypocrite.



For those not following the drama on Twitter, Musk stripped Loomer of her status as both Musk and Vivek came out in support of hiring foreign nationals via the H-1B process. Loomer and other pro-MAGA accounts blasted them both for doing so.

The thing about MAGA embracing the techno broligarchs is that deep down, the broligarchs are pro- immigration. And MAGA is not.

Large corporations have been getting away with exploiting this program as well as American workers. There are several companies here in the Puget Sound region which specialize only in pipelining recruits from India into IT positions - TaTa Consulting and Infosys.

And they lie a lot - particularly about there not being ANY qualified Americans who can fill these positions. I have first hand experience [bad] with some of these situations.

The H-1B visa program is designed to allow U.S. companies to hire foreign workers in specialty occupations when qualified American workers are unavailable. However, there have been instances of misuse, particularly in the information technology (IT) sector, where companies have allegedly replaced American workers with H-1B visa holders, sometimes requiring the displaced employees to train their replacements.​

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Misclassification of Job Positions​

One form of abuse involves companies misclassifying job positions on H-1B applications. Employers may designate a role as "entry-level" to meet wage requirements while assigning the visa holder higher-level responsibilities. This practice allows companies to pay lower wages than would be appropriate for the actual duties performed, undermining both the spirit of the H-1B program and fair labor standards.​

EPI​

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Replacement of American Workers​

There have been reports of companies conducting mass layoffs of American IT workers, subsequently replacing them with H-1B visa holders. In some cases, the displaced employees were required to train their replacements as a condition for receiving severance packages. This practice has been reported in various parts of the United States, including the Puget Sound area.​

Wikipedia​

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Local Impact in the Puget Sound Area​

The Puget Sound region, home to major tech companies, has experienced significant layoffs affecting both American workers and H-1B visa holders. For instance, Microsoft announced substantial layoffs in the area, raising concerns about the treatment of both domestic and foreign workers.​

Network World​

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Regulatory and Legal Responses​

The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) have mechanisms to investigate and address H-1B program abuses. Individuals can report suspected fraud or abuse through official channels. The DOL has emphasized the importance of the H-1B program in helping U.S. companies recruit highly-skilled noncitizens when there is a shortage of qualified workers in the country.​

The Layoff​

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Conclusion​

While the H-1B visa program serves a legitimate purpose in addressing skill shortages, abuses such as job misclassification and the replacement of American workers have been documented. Ongoing scrutiny and enforcement are essential to ensure the program operates as intended, protecting both American and foreign workers from exploitation.​

Recent Developments in H-1B Visa Program and Tech Industry​

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New York Post​

Foreign tech workers on visas warned to return to US before Trump takes office: 'Storm is coming'​

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[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Elon agrees that American workers are retarded after promoting anti-white racist post.

How's this going for you, MAGA?

Elon Musk Endorses Post Suggesting Americans Are Too ‘Retarded’ To Do Skilled Jobs

Billionaire Trump surrogate Elon Musk endorsed a post on Thursday which suggested Americans were too "retarded" to be hired for skilled jobs.

www.mediaite.com

So we swapped out one set of racists for a new, more virulent strain of racists? (asking for a friend, who is a Black female professional in IT)

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Two years ago, Trump said Elon was a bullshit artist.

Well as they say, it takes one to know one.

 

[cnm]

Trump is better than Biden. But remember one, important point: Every American President for the past few decades has vowed (or vows) their allegiance to someone other than the American people. This is true of other national leaders as well:

Nobody has truly put "America First" since our Founding Fathers.

Touching a wall is a vow?

TIL

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

my head hurts trying to figure out this drama, is maga for or against? who is doing what, why and how? ugh politics

MAGA/Trump is for deporting everyone in the country unlawfully.
MAGA/Trump/Elon Musk/Ramaswamy apparently are ALSO for replacing American workers with H-1B workers.

It's the second one that I don't think most Trump/MAGA supporters signed up for.

 

[shockedcanadian]

This Indian migration issue for tech was known if people paid attention, which I did. It was a little known interview/podcast in a loose, casual form between Trump and three or four fairly well known, deep pocket tech guys. They used to be Dems but one of them was the ringleader trying to convince the others to donate to his campaign. Anyways, he was very open to immigration from India and the tech guys were quite pleased with Trumps responses. It is probaly on youtube or something now, the interview went on for well over and hour and it was relaxed, plenty of joking etc. This was well before Biden was replaced. Anyways, Musk will hurt himself with speecb suppression, even for those unsavoury accounts.. All China and Russia do with their information tactics is call out America and Europe for hypocrisy. It has been very effective based on their increwsingly larger viewership and comments left. In short, Americans must be known as the defenders of free speech. It is critical to.their.global.Goodwll of which China is chipping away with great success.

 

[Failzero]

Laura Looser is not like us

 

[EMH]

Two years ago, Trump said Elon was a bullshit artist.

And now Musk is saying.... oh well, don't worry about CO2 FRAUD, we have 20 years...


LOL!!!

 

[EMH]

Let's face it, mass deporting everyone isn't a realistic objective.

Deport

1. the criminal illegals already in prison/jail/indicted
2. the 20k Chinese military aged men
3. the gangbangers
4. those convicted of serious crimes in their country of origin.
5. those let out of a mental institution in their country of origin


The ones behaving, doing their jobs, not threatening Americans.... they are NOT a priority.

 

[The Duke]

I agree with Elon Musk on the issue, and I can't stand Laura Loomer, but Loomer is dead right about Musk being a hypocrite.



For those not following the drama on Twitter, Musk stripped Loomer of her status as both Musk and Vivek came out in support of hiring foreign nationals via the H-1B process. Loomer and other pro-MAGA accounts blasted them both for doing so.

The thing about MAGA embracing the techno broligarchs is that deep down, the broligarchs are pro- immigration. And MAGA is not.

Well, I guess she posted some fake stuff to be sensational again.

 

[22lcidw]

The problem for many MAGA adherents, though, was accepting the very notion of immigrants telling them America needs more immigration to fill lucrative jobs in America. ...​

"The Woodstock generation managed to build out aerospace, the one before went to the moon, America was doing great. Underlying your post is that we were all living in squalor until being rescued by H-1B's. Then why did everyone want to come here?" right-wing personality Mike Cernovich responded to Ramaswamy on X.​

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/26/maga-civil-war-ramaswamy-musk-loomer-cernovich

It was the WW 2 and some years before generation that went to the moon. And they were involved in the bastardized version of the Shuttle we ended up with as the DEI was involved in that and growing in that era.

 

[1srelluc]

Meh, all immigration undermines the American worker to an extent and immigrants have always been used to pad the bottom line. Nothing new under the sun there.....Chinese, Irish, and now dot Indians.