Elizabeth Warren Fights Back Against the "Magical Accounting" of Trickle-Down Economics

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CONTEXT. When going to 2 UNFUNDED WARS, GIVING 2 UNFUNDED TAX CUTS (NOT CUTTING SPENDING) AND GIVING US UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION. Zero honesty from cons, EVER

According to Krugman we're still paying for WWII

Conservatives NEVER like to pay off the credit card, what can I tell you?

they want gov't on the cheap.Thats why the President rightly calls them deadbeats.

 

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The bloated Federal government is spending about $4 trillion a year and that is way too much.

The combined Federal, State and Local governments collects and spends over 40% of the GNP and then borrows a shitload on top of that.

If you don't understand what is wrong with that picture then you have truly earned a place in the Moon Bat Hall of Fame.

and

Libtards always like run up the credit card.

Is that so?

 

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Warren suddenly "fights back" since democrats are the minority party? Where has she been in the last six years?

 

[Dad2three]

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We can always fire government employees and pay rock bottom wages

But you get what you pay for. If you want discount rate lawyers, doctors, accountants, engineers, scientists, police and teachers representing the people's interests, then you will get the workforce you deserve

How about paying government employees labor market rates for the job they do but reduce the size of the government to a minimal effective level instead of this bloated out of control bureaucracy we have now?

How does that sound?

We have fewer government employees today than we had 50 years ago. Wages offered by the government to recent graduates tend to be significantly lower than in the private sector
Government doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants all make less than the private sector

That's all horseshit of course. I have plenty of friends who are consultants and they make considerably more than comparable positions in the private sector.

The only government employees there are less of is service people. The military is the only area of government that's actually been cut in the last 50 years.

Many studies have recently been published showing that government employees make considerably more than people with comparable positions in the private sector.

Sure, BECAUSE the right wing studies want to compare burger flippers in the private sector to engineers and people with degrees in the public sector, lol

Are Government Employees Overpaid? Still No.

First

The first is an apples-to-apples comparison of workers among education levels. The government’s workforce is more educated than the private workforce. For instance, the government’s “college plus” level is 54%, while all private workforce is 35%. “Some college” is 14% of government workers, 19% of the private workforce. So this is important to control for.

Here is the penalty government workers take when you include all benefits across both categories:

On average, government workers make 3% less total compensation when you control for education levels.

Are Government Employees Overpaid Still No. Rortybomb

 

[Dad2three]

Warren suddenly "fights back" since democrats are the minority party? Where has she been in the last six years?

You mean when the GOP blocked everything since they didn't have a super majority?

 

[Vigilante]

Warren suddenly "fights back" since democrats are the minority party? Where has she been in the last six years?

You mean when the GOP blocked everything since they didn't have a super majority?

And how did you get ObozoCare again, without a super majority?

 

[Wry Catcher]

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We can always fire government employees and pay rock bottom wages

But you get what you pay for. If you want discount rate lawyers, doctors, accountants, engineers, scientists, police and teachers representing the people's interests, then you will get the workforce you deserve

How about paying government employees labor market rates for the job they do but reduce the size of the government to a minimal effective level instead of this bloated out of control bureaucracy we have now?

How does that sound?

We have fewer government employees today than we had 50 years ago. Wages offered by the government to recent graduates tend to be significantly lower than in the private sector
Government doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants all make less than the private sector

That's all horseshit of course. I have plenty of friends who are consultants and they make considerably more than comparable positions in the private sector.

The only government employees there are less of is service people. The military is the only area of government that's actually been cut in the last 50 years.

Many studies have recently been published showing that government employees make considerably more than people with comparable positions in the private sector.

I am a government consultant and do much better than I did in the 33 years I worked as a Federal Employee. I also went through decades trying to hire qualified engineers at government pay grades

The numbers in the federal workforce are well published. We have lower numbers than we had 50 years ago

Even with the large expansion of the Bush Administration (Homeland Security). Better spent by increasing state and local LE Agencies, IMO

 

[Dad2three]

Warren suddenly "fights back" since democrats are the minority party? Where has she been in the last six years?

You mean when the GOP blocked everything since they didn't have a super majority?

And how did you get ObozoCare again, without a super majority?

You THINK he had a super majority or did some RINO's help him? lol

 

[Dad2three]

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We can always fire government employees and pay rock bottom wages

But you get what you pay for. If you want discount rate lawyers, doctors, accountants, engineers, scientists, police and teachers representing the people's interests, then you will get the workforce you deserve

How about paying government employees labor market rates for the job they do but reduce the size of the government to a minimal effective level instead of this bloated out of control bureaucracy we have now?

How does that sound?

We have fewer government employees today than we had 50 years ago. Wages offered by the government to recent graduates tend to be significantly lower than in the private sector
Government doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants all make less than the private sector

That's all horseshit of course. I have plenty of friends who are consultants and they make considerably more than comparable positions in the private sector.

The only government employees there are less of is service people. The military is the only area of government that's actually been cut in the last 50 years.

Many studies have recently been published showing that government employees make considerably more than people with comparable positions in the private sector.

I am a government consultant and do much better than I did in the 33 years I worked as a Federal Employee. I also went through decades trying to hire qualified engineers at government pay grades

The numbers in the federal workforce are well published. We have lower numbers than we had 50 years ago

Even with the large expansion of the Bush Administration (Homeland Security). Better spent by increasing state and local LE Agencies, IMO

LE spending has gone through the roof in the past 30+ years. While crime has dropped and incarceration levels soared.

 

[Dad2three]

Warren suddenly "fights back" since democrats are the minority party? Where has she been in the last six years?

You mean when the GOP blocked everything since they didn't have a super majority?

And how did you get ObozoCare again, without a super majority?

One of the standard Republican talking points is that the Democrats had a filibuster-proof, super majority for two years between 2008 and 2010. This talking point is usually trotted out when liberals complain that the Republicans filibustered virtually every piece of legislation proposed by Obama or the Democrats during Obama’s presidency. The implication is that Democrats had ample opportunity to pass legislation and that the reason they didn’t pass more legislation doesn’t have anything to do with the Republicans.


It is also used to counter any argument that Republican legislation, (passed during the six years of total Republican control,) has anything to do with today’s problems. They claim that the Democrats had a super majority for two years and passed all kinds of legislation, (over Republican objection and filibuster,) that completely undid all Republican policies and legislation, and this absolves them from today’s problems.

The Truth is that the Democrats only had a filibuster-proof majority for 60 working days during that period, insufficient time to undo even a small portion of the legislation passed during six years of Republican control. Here are the details:

Democrats only had a veto proof majority for 24 working days Fact Left

 

[bripat9643]

CONTEXT. When going to 2 UNFUNDED WARS, GIVING 2 UNFUNDED TAX CUTS (NOT CUTTING SPENDING) AND GIVING US UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION. Zero honesty from cons, EVER

According to Krugman we're still paying for WWII

Conservatives NEVER like to pay off the credit card, what can I tell you?

Hmmmm, it's your balance, moron. Republicans didn't pass all the socialist boondoggles that are running up the debt.

 

[bripat9643]

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We can always fire government employees and pay rock bottom wages

But you get what you pay for. If you want discount rate lawyers, doctors, accountants, engineers, scientists, police and teachers representing the people's interests, then you will get the workforce you deserve

How about paying government employees labor market rates for the job they do but reduce the size of the government to a minimal effective level instead of this bloated out of control bureaucracy we have now?

How does that sound?

We have fewer government employees today than we had 50 years ago. Wages offered by the government to recent graduates tend to be significantly lower than in the private sector
Government doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants all make less than the private sector

That's all horseshit of course. I have plenty of friends who are consultants and they make considerably more than comparable positions in the private sector.

The only government employees there are less of is service people. The military is the only area of government that's actually been cut in the last 50 years.

Many studies have recently been published showing that government employees make considerably more than people with comparable positions in the private sector.

I am a government consultant and do much better than I did in the 33 years I worked as a Federal Employee. I also went through decades trying to hire qualified engineers at government pay grades

The numbers in the federal workforce are well published. We have lower numbers than we had 50 years ago

Utter horseshit. You're obviously just a brainwashed drone.

 

[bripat9643]

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We have fewer government employees today than we had 50 years ago. Wages offered by the government to recent graduates tend to be significantly lower than in the private sector
Government doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants all make less than the private sector

The bloated Federal government is spending about $4 trillion a year and that is way too much.

The combined Federal, State and Local governments collects and spends over 40% of the GNP and then borrows a shitload on top of that.

If you don't understand what is wrong with that picture then you have truly earned a place in the Moon Bat Hall of Fame.

First define the problem. Next, seek solutions, and in doing so compare cost-benefits with cost-deficits, and imagine worst case scenarios such as the unintended consequences of each solution.

Oh, and before you do that, put your emotions, biases and opinions aside, verify what you believe you know and then consider the panoptic responsibilities and moral duty of government.

Than and only then exercise you right to vote. Unitl then do everyone a favor and STFU and never criticize policy makers - more is required of them than a dolt like you can even imagine.

We've already done all that, moron. That's how we know government needs to be cut, and drastically. Your job should one of the first ones to go.

 

[Vigilante]

Warren suddenly "fights back" since democrats are the minority party? Where has she been in the last six years?

You mean when the GOP blocked everything since they didn't have a super majority?

And how did you get ObozoCare again, without a super majority?

You THINK he had a super majority or did some RINO's help him? lol

He had NO REPUBLICAN'S vote for the bill, BUT did have asshole Republican vote to have it brought to the floor!

 

[Dad2three]

CONTEXT. When going to 2 UNFUNDED WARS, GIVING 2 UNFUNDED TAX CUTS (NOT CUTTING SPENDING) AND GIVING US UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION. Zero honesty from cons, EVER

According to Krugman we're still paying for WWII

Conservatives NEVER like to pay off the credit card, what can I tell you?

Hmmmm, it's your balance, moron. Republicans didn't pass all the socialist boondoggles that are running up the debt.

 

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I am a government consultant and do much better than I did in the 33 years I worked as a Federal Employee. I also went through decades trying to hire qualified engineers at government pay grades

The numbers in the federal workforce are well published. We have lower numbers than we had 50 years ago

Even with the large expansion of the Bush Administration (Homeland Security). Better spent by increasing state and local LE Agencies, IMO

true but sadly the Repub Prez at the time went the crony capitalist/big gov't route

 

[Dad2three]

Warren suddenly "fights back" since democrats are the minority party? Where has she been in the last six years?

You mean when the GOP blocked everything since they didn't have a super majority?

And how did you get ObozoCare again, without a super majority?

You THINK he had a super majority or did some RINO's help him? lol

He had NO REPUBLICAN'S vote for the bill, BUT did have asshole Republican vote to have it brought to the floor!

So YES, those RINO's allowed the Dems to vote on a bill WITHOUT the super majority they usually require. Thanks for agreeing

 

[bripat9643]

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We can always fire government employees and pay rock bottom wages

But you get what you pay for. If you want discount rate lawyers, doctors, accountants, engineers, scientists, police and teachers representing the people's interests, then you will get the workforce you deserve

How about paying government employees labor market rates for the job they do but reduce the size of the government to a minimal effective level instead of this bloated out of control bureaucracy we have now?

How does that sound?

How about more realistic pension and benefits for them too

Envy much? Too bad you're too stupid and too much of a wimp to qualify for Safety Retirement.

We earn what we have, rescuing stupid people like you, and wondering every shift if some asshole with a gun is intent on doing harm to others; or 'cause he's too much a coward to put the gun in his own mouth and wants LE to do it for him.

I'll bet there's a long line of people who would do your job with a much smaller pension and health benefits more in line with the private sector. Most private sector jobs don't even offer a pension.

What makes you think you actually deserve what you are paid?

 

[Vigilante]

Warren suddenly "fights back" since democrats are the minority party? Where has she been in the last six years?

You mean when the GOP blocked everything since they didn't have a super majority?

And how did you get ObozoCare again, without a super majority?

You THINK he had a super majority or did some RINO's help him? lol

He had NO REPUBLICAN'S vote for the bill, BUT did have asshole Republican vote to have it brought to the floor!

So YES, those RINO's allowed the Dems to vote on a bill WITHOUT the super majority they usually require. Thanks for agreeing

That's NOT what you said, there were NO REPUBLICAN'S that voted for that bill...OR NAME THE ONES THAT DID VOTE FOR Obamacare...I'll wait...

 

[Dad2three]

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We have fewer government employees today than we had 50 years ago. Wages offered by the government to recent graduates tend to be significantly lower than in the private sector
Government doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants all make less than the private sector

The bloated Federal government is spending about $4 trillion a year and that is way too much.

The combined Federal, State and Local governments collects and spends over 40% of the GNP and then borrows a shitload on top of that.

If you don't understand what is wrong with that picture then you have truly earned a place in the Moon Bat Hall of Fame.

First define the problem. Next, seek solutions, and in doing so compare cost-benefits with cost-deficits, and imagine worst case scenarios such as the unintended consequences of each solution.

Oh, and before you do that, put your emotions, biases and opinions aside, verify what you believe you know and then consider the panoptic responsibilities and moral duty of government.

Than and only then exercise you right to vote. Unitl then do everyone a favor and STFU and never criticize policy makers - more is required of them than a dolt like you can even imagine.

We've already done all that, moron. That's how we know government needs to be cut, and drastically. Your job should one of the first ones to go.

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