Election experts sound off on ACORN

[dilloduck]

No offense intended to anyone here, but this is just a thought here in all this ACORN mess. Since when did it become a corporate responsibility to register a person or persons to vote. The right to vote is the right on an individual and therefor it is THEIR responsibility to make sure they have done what is needed to register. It seems fairly obvious to me. It also seems that when you have a company, or agenda driven group in the responsibility business it would be hard to seperate that agenda from the act of registration. Just a thought.

A point I have been trying to make for a month. ty

 

[Truthmatters]

"Experts" got us into the financial crisis too----no thanks--I'll pass.

wow how smart of you lets listen to the internet idiots without a clue instead.

 

[dilloduck]

wow how smart of you lets listen to the internet idiots without a clue instead.

Hey, I got that info straight from the source.

 

[Truthmatters]

No offense intended to anyone here, but this is just a thought here in all this ACORN mess. Since when did it become a corporate responsibility to register a person or persons to vote. The right to vote is the right on an individual and therefor it is THEIR responsibility to make sure they have done what is needed to register. It seems fairly obvious to me. It also seems that when you have a company, or agenda driven group in the responsibility business it would be hard to seperate that agenda from the act of registration. Just a thought.

Its not a company.

Its a nonprofit citizens group that does all kinds of things to help the underpriviledged.

People helping people.

How is that wrong?

 

[Navy1960]

Its not a company.

Its a nonprofit citizens group that does all kinds of things to help the underpriviledged.

People helping people.

How is that wrong?

Section 501(c)(3) is a tax law provision granting exemption from the federal income tax to non-profit organizations. This exemption does not cover other federal taxes such as employment taxes.

501(c)(3) exemptions apply to corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur sports competition, or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals.

Issue campaigns: Each ACORN office carries out multiple issue campaigns. ACORN members across the country work to raise the minimum wage or enact living wage policies; eliminate predatory financial practices by mortgage lenders, payday lenders, and tax preparation companies; win the development of affordable housing and community benefits agreements; improve the quality of and funding for urban public schools; rebuild New Orleans; and pass a federal and state ACORN Working Families Agenda, including paid sick leave for all full time workers.

ACORN is a non-profit, non-partisan social justice organization with national headquarters in New York, New Orleans and Washington, D.C.
http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12342

IMHO Truth Acorn has an agenda and that agenda is not your grandmother and aunt and Joe the gardner all getting together to help poor aunt May go vote. When you inject any agenda into what is honestly an individual right and responsibility it is hard to seperate the two. You have a not for profit, company, organization, if you will who pays people to do what is an individual reponsibility. I have no issue with a group that seeks to help those who cannot help themselves, however I do feel that some things go beyond the scope of group responsibilty and one of them is filling out a voter registration card.

 

[Vintij]

No offense intended to anyone here, but this is just a thought here in all this ACORN mess. Since when did it become a corporate responsibility to register a person or persons to vote. The right to vote is the right on an individual and therefor it is THEIR responsibility to make sure they have done what is needed to register. It seems fairly obvious to me. It also seems that when you have a company, or agenda driven group in the responsibility business it would be hard to seperate that agenda from the act of registration. Just a thought.

Its nobodys job, they are non profit buddy. They have done nothing wrong infact getting 1.3 million people to register to vote deserves a medal. No corruption at all sept for the greedy low income idiots who registered a few extra made up names, not like someone can VOTE under those names. Just the last ditch effort of a failing campaign. Its over for mccain, get over it.

 

[Silence]

That's because there was a cover up and you know it.

a cover up? by the Bush Administration? yeah right.

The excuses you asswipes make to keep pushing this phantom voter fraud claim is getting pretty ridiculous.

 

[Navy1960]

Its nobodys job, they are non profit buddy. They have done nothing wrong infact getting 1.3 million people to register to vote deserves a medal. No corruption at all sept for the greedy low income idiots who registered a few extra made up names, not like someone can VOTE under those names. Just the last ditch effort of a failing campaign. Its over for mccain, get over it.

Let's see no where in my post did it say, I'm voting for McCain, so I have nothing to get over. The other issue I was addressing was not the recent corruption as it relates to ACORNS hiring practices but if you read my post you would see that I am pointing out that Voting is an Indivudual Right and Responsibility and as such it is the individuals responsibility to make sure they fill out a voter registration card if they wish to vote. No where in my post did I mention the number of investigations into alledged voter registration fraud or who I was supporting in this election which by the way is not McCain nor is it Obama. As for your assertion that it's no one's job then I will only say this, if it is no one's job then why hire people and pay them a salary to canvas local areas to help people fill out voter registrations and then place your organiztions stamp on them? That my friend sounds like it is someones job to me.

 

[Ravi]

a cover up? by the Bush Administration? yeah right.

The excuses you asswipes make to keep pushing this phantom voter fraud claim is getting pretty ridiculous.

It was in reality covered up by the Bush administration. Most of his AGs found no evidence of voter fraud and were fired because they had scruples. I have had a hard time admiring repubs for a very long time, but I admired those that refused to lie in these investigations.

 

[AllieBaba]

a cover up? by the Bush Administration? yeah right.

The excuses you asswipes make to keep pushing this phantom voter fraud claim is getting pretty ridiculous.

$25,000 shelled out by Acorn in settlement money, convictions and jail time say it's not phantom, dear.

 

[Alpha1]

I wonder why thousands of Republicans aren't being fraudulently registered to vote ?

 

[BrianH]

The cover up is this is designed to scare people away from getting registered.

Republicans do better when the turnout is low.

They dont want more voters participating

Possibly because only 20% of Americans know what the hell they're voting.

I love hearing many people's reason's for voting for Obama.
"Because it's time for a black president."
"Because he made McCain look stupid."
"Because he speaks better than McCain."
"Because he's younger."

These are direct quotes...pretty pathetic if you ask me.

Personally, I think this election is like voting between a turd and a turd sandwhich....

 

[Truthmatters]

Are you unaware of the idiotic and racist things being said by your fellow republicans?

Heres a ******* clue about democracy to you assclown, YOU dont get to choose who votes.

 

[Truthmatters]

$25,000 shelled out by Acorn in settlement money, convictions and jail time say it's not phantom, dear.

Care to prove the allegations?

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Sure, sure... There's no evidence of voter fraud... NOooooo. All the years of reports of dead people voting were just damn lies designed to hurt Hussein's chances in this election. The 2000 Palm Beach, FL debacle where 3 thousand people called to report that they had accidently voted for Buchannan, only realizing it after they got home... the over votes where more people voted in a given district than were registered... NO CHANCE that ANY of that represents fraud... NOooooo

And that the Democrats are so darn adamant that voters shouldn't be forced to show a photo ID... THATS A PRINCIPLE THING... There is no attempt to defraud anyone there. The Democrat demand that voters should be able to vote at any poll... with no ID... NO attempt to defraud the system there. It's all very innocent and these rumors are just misunderstandings. TENS of thousands of people being registered that don't exist... NO CHANCE that someone could show up at a precinct where IDs aren't required and vote under that name... then drive to another precinct and vote under another name. NO CHANCE! Which is really good news because if someone is registered and votes... who is going to check up on that name?

I'd like to know how this prof that swears it doesn't exist can make that determination? What are her

Of course the advocates of the Socialist Muslim Hussein Obama for President (only 7 years after the US was attacked by Muslim Socialist Osama and the US had to invade Iraq to remove the Socialist Muslim Hussein from power for his support of Muslim Socialists...) aren't interested in such curiosities... and given that the Media is primarily a Socialist organ, it's unlikely we’re going ot get much more on it...

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Are you unaware of the idiotic and racist things being said by your fellow republicans?

Heres a ******* clue about democracy to you assclown, YOU dont get to choose who votes.

Yeah that really is a fatal flaw in the system. At some point the electorate simply falls below a sufficient average intellect to sustain a viable government and the next thing ya know you're looking at a choice between a fascist and a marxist as Chief Executive in the midst of an economic crisis caused by socialist economic policy... One of which is a Muslim Socialist while the nation is at war with Muslim Socialists...

 

[dilloduck]

I wonder why thousands of Republicans aren't being fraudulently registered to vote ?

Odd ain't it ?

 

[Luissa]

That's because there was a cover up and you know it.

If it was by the democrats we didn't do a very good job since the repubs controlled the white house and congress in the first part of the decade!

Acorn is a company to register people to vote and in most cases they are the ones who alerted the election boards of the invalid registration, the problem is they have to turn in all of them including the false ones. The bush admin. is on a witch hunt. And do you really think that there is no repubs commiting voting fraud? That it is all democrats?

 

[DiveCon]

Odd ain't it ?

yeah, wonder why that is

 

[Ravi]

I wonder why thousands of Republicans aren't being fraudulently registered to vote ?

Who says they aren't? The only actual case of voter fraud I've heard of in Florida recently was Anne Coulter.