Sun Devil 92
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Exactly. So at state level I get it. But federal? Two Alaskan senators have as much say for their 600,000 constituents as do the two from Cali and their 45 million constituents. Taking it to the nth degree, 45 million people want to put up a dam to help irrigate land. 600,000 don't and due to the 2 votes each, you are at a deadlock. You guys are always going on about the tyranny of the majority, but it appears you are okay with the tyranny of the minority.And you've outlined its fundamental flaw. Why should states with lower populations have a say that alienates those at the higher end. At a state level, yeah, sure do what you want. But why should two Senators from Alaska with 600,000 people have the same voting rights as the two Senators from California with their 40 million people at a federal level. It is patently unfair and disenfranchising.
Well AH HAH !!! Your problem (as I figured) isn't JUST with the E.C. -- It's with the FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN of our REPUBLIC.. If you don't KNOW the reasons why we're a REPUBLIC -- read the Handbook and Owners Manual.. Like the "federalist" and "anti-federalist" papers.
The SENATE is FAR more equally state weighted than the E.C., You should FIX THAT first...
So -- like I said in the 1st post on this -- You NEED A FUCKING REVOLUTION to change these things. Because a Constitutional Convention --- they'd all kill each on the floor trying to come up with a 100% brand new Constitution..
So -- start a revolution Che.. Or read some of the founding documents. These guys weren't stupid about freedom and democracy...
Oh, I know why you're a republic. Mob rule 51 per cent take away the rights of the other 49 as Jefferson said. Two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner said Franklin. Both describing democracy.
Let's go back to Jefferson and his mob rule. "51 per cent take away the rights of 49 per cent of others.' This was from a slave owner. From a man who lived in a time where women couldn't vote. Where only land-owning men could vote. Taking away the rights of others. Blacks? Gays? How were their rights back then. How were their rights up until recently? Your FF were very flawed individuals, as is your constitution. Sure, on paper, looks great. However it doesn't have one amendment. It has 27, so it is far from perfect.
And you are right, they would tear each other apart. What does that tell you about your 'perfect' system.
You obviously don't understand the basis for the constitution or the way it was set up.
States are the prevailing entity.
Not our fucking federal government.
Senators were originally appointed by states. Wanna know why ?
To keep the federal legislature from even thinking about taking on that kind of bullshit.
Creating another house would kill smaller states. That is why they signed on.
Didn't want Virginia running the show.
Today it would be CA.
Not gonna happen.
As it is, we fucked up and passed the 17th which really hurt the states in the long run.
Not getting any close than that.