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Florida had a huge number of mail in ballots, but they began processing them before Election Day. The states that didn't had laws preventing that, and state legislatures refusing to change them. If ballots could have been processed before then on Election Day they would just need to be scanned in. That would have made it a much speedier process imo.
No...they did that because that is how their election laws are. If mail in votes ensure chaos...can you let Utah know?And they did that why..........because they knew it would cause CHAOS......Mail in votes ENSURED THEY CAUSED CHAOS...............Florida had a huge number of mail in ballots, but they began processing them before Election Day. The states that didn't had laws preventing that, and state legislatures refusing to change them. If ballots could have been processed before then on Election Day they would just need to be scanned in. That would have made it a much speedier process imo.
In Chaos they can cheat like hell...........The Mail in Virus is a disgrace to this country.
Then the process of equal state vote in the SENATE is a fraud.. So it the process of equal state vote in amending the CONSTITUTION is a fraud.. You've replaced our form of Republic and re-designed the Constitution..
I think you need an actual Revolution to do that. Or a Constitutional Convention that would probably end in physical brawling..
No...they did that because that is how their election laws are. If mail in votes ensure chaos...can you let Utah know?And they did that why..........because they knew it would cause CHAOS......Mail in votes ENSURED THEY CAUSED CHAOS...............Florida had a huge number of mail in ballots, but they began processing them before Election Day. The states that didn't had laws preventing that, and state legislatures refusing to change them. If ballots could have been processed before then on Election Day they would just need to be scanned in. That would have made it a much speedier process imo.
In Chaos they can cheat like hell...........The Mail in Virus is a disgrace to this country.
Then the process of equal state vote in the SENATE is a fraud.. So it the process of equal state vote in amending the CONSTITUTION is a fraud.. You've replaced our form of Republic and re-designed the Constitution..
I think you need an actual Revolution to do that. Or a Constitutional Convention that would probably end in physical brawling..
Not so much a fraud, but inequal and doesn't work anymore.
Sorry man.. But a REPUBLIC is founded on LIMITED RIGHTS to the Feds with the STATES retaining most of their sovereignty.. And STATES are what RATIFY constitutional changes. Not pop vote margins. The E.C is weighted by population, to boost the states at the LOW end and suppress the states at the HIGH end of the population..
LEFTISTS SHOULD LOVE the E.C. because it's a form of redistribution of power so that the "tiny guy" doesn't become a slave to the rich master -- just because he has more people behind him...
And you've outlined its fundamental flaw. Why should states with lower populations have a say that alienates those at the higher end. At a state level, yeah, sure do what you want. But why should two Senators from Alaska with 600,000 people have the same voting rights as the two Senators from California with their 40 million people at a federal level. It is patently unfair and disenfranchising.
And you've outlined its fundamental flaw. Why should states with lower populations have a say that alienates those at the higher end. At a state level, yeah, sure do what you want. But why should two Senators from Alaska with 600,000 people have the same voting rights as the two Senators from California with their 40 million people at a federal level. It is patently unfair and disenfranchising.
Well AH HAH !!! Your problem (as I figured) isn't JUST with the E.C. -- It's with the FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN of our REPUBLIC.. If you don't KNOW the reasons why we're a REPUBLIC -- read the Handbook and Owners Manual.. Like the "federalist" and "anti-federalist" papers.
The SENATE is FAR more equally state weighted than the E.C., You should FIX THAT first...
So -- like I said in the 1st post on this -- You NEED A FUCKING REVOLUTION to change these things. Because a Constitutional Convention --- they'd all kill each on the floor trying to come up with a 100% brand new Constitution..
So -- start a revolution Che.. Or read some of the founding documents. These guys weren't stupid about freedom and democracy...
Let's go back to Jefferson and his mob rule. "51 per cent take away the rights of 49 per cent of others.' This was from a slave owner. From a man who lived in a time where women couldn't vote. Where only land-owning men could vote. Taking away the rights of others. Blacks? Gays? How were their rights back then. How were their rights up until recently? Your FF were very flawed individuals, as is your constitution. Sure, on paper, looks great. However it doesn't have one amendment. It has 27, so it is far from perfect.
Yes, it does mesh with our earlier USMB observation that the Clinton crime family is more CIA than FBI. In those threads, we pointed to the Michigan connection to British MI6, linking the Steele dossier.
I've always thought a fairer way to spread it around is like how a couple of the states do it - divide the EC by votes at state level. For example, going by the popular vote in Texas, Trump should have gotten about 15 or 16 of the EC votes, Biden 12 or 13. Trump would have gotten about 20 of the 55 in California.
And you've outlined its fundamental flaw. Why should states with lower populations have a say that alienates those at the higher end. At a state level, yeah, sure do what you want. But why should two Senators from Alaska with 600,000 people have the same voting rights as the two Senators from California with their 40 million people at a federal level. It is patently unfair and disenfranchising.
Well AH HAH !!! Your problem (as I figured) isn't JUST with the E.C. -- It's with the FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN of our REPUBLIC.. If you don't KNOW the reasons why we're a REPUBLIC -- read the Handbook and Owners Manual.. Like the "federalist" and "anti-federalist" papers.
The SENATE is FAR more equally state weighted than the E.C., You should FIX THAT first...
So -- like I said in the 1st post on this -- You NEED A FUCKING REVOLUTION to change these things. Because a Constitutional Convention --- they'd all kill each on the floor trying to come up with a 100% brand new Constitution..
So -- start a revolution Che.. Or read some of the founding documents. These guys weren't stupid about freedom and democracy...
Oh, I know why you're a republic. Mob rule 51 per cent take away the rights of the other 49 as Jefferson said. Two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner said Franklin. Both describing democracy.
Let's go back to Jefferson and his mob rule. "51 per cent take away the rights of 49 per cent of others.' This was from a slave owner. From a man who lived in a time where women couldn't vote. Where only land-owning men could vote. Taking away the rights of others. Blacks? Gays? How were their rights back then. How were their rights up until recently? Your FF were very flawed individuals, as is your constitution. Sure, on paper, looks great. However it doesn't have one amendment. It has 27, so it is far from perfect.
And you are right, they would tear each other apart. What does that tell you about your 'perfect' system.
Let's go back to Jefferson and his mob rule. "51 per cent take away the rights of 49 per cent of others.' This was from a slave owner. From a man who lived in a time where women couldn't vote. Where only land-owning men could vote. Taking away the rights of others. Blacks? Gays? How were their rights back then. How were their rights up until recently? Your FF were very flawed individuals, as is your constitution. Sure, on paper, looks great. However it doesn't have one amendment. It has 27, so it is far from perfect.
In the end -- you HAVE to have a Federation of states. Who willingly subjugate themselves to a Constitution. And your concern about slaves and minorities IS EXACTLY the concern that STATEShave in being overtaken by the "wolves'. Go read about bi-cameral legislatures and why they are prevalent in STABLE countries and why UNI-cameral legislatures are a feature of communist/socialist countries and dictators..
Your evil progressive plan to go grab Puerto Rico to enhance the "uniparty" Democrat model wouldn't work with all the "federation" language removed from the Constitution.. Why would Puerto Rico want to join into a system where THEIR "state" is a peon pauper in terms of power-sharing? Why would the smaller states want to remain in a system where their "sovereignty" is just a token joke?
That's the problem the founders faced. And why they DESIGNED a federated Republic..
In the end -- you HAVE to have a Federation of states. Who willingly subjugate themselves to a Constitution. And your concern about slaves and minorities IS EXACTLY the concern that STATEShave in being overtaken by the "wolves'. Go read about bi-cameral legislatures and why they are prevalent in STABLE countries and why UNI-cameral legislatures are a feature of communist/socialist countries and dictators..
Your evil progressive plan to go grab Puerto Rico to enhance the "uniparty" Democrat model wouldn't work with all the "federation" language removed from the Constitution.. Why would Puerto Rico want to join into a system where THEIR "state" is a peon pauper in terms of power-sharing? Why would the smaller states want to remain in a system where their "sovereignty" is just a token joke?
That's the problem the founders faced. And why they DESIGNED a federated Republic..
Exactly. So at state level I get it. But federal? Two Alaskan senators have as much say for their 600,000 constituents as do the two from Cali and their 45 million constituents. Taking it to the nth degree, 45 million people want to put up a dam to help irrigate land. 600,000 don't and due to the 2 votes each, you are at a deadlock. You guys are always going on about the tyranny of the majority, but it appears you are okay with the tyranny of the minority.And you've outlined its fundamental flaw. Why should states with lower populations have a say that alienates those at the higher end. At a state level, yeah, sure do what you want. But why should two Senators from Alaska with 600,000 people have the same voting rights as the two Senators from California with their 40 million people at a federal level. It is patently unfair and disenfranchising.
Well AH HAH !!! Your problem (as I figured) isn't JUST with the E.C. -- It's with the FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN of our REPUBLIC.. If you don't KNOW the reasons why we're a REPUBLIC -- read the Handbook and Owners Manual.. Like the "federalist" and "anti-federalist" papers.
The SENATE is FAR more equally state weighted than the E.C., You should FIX THAT first...
So -- like I said in the 1st post on this -- You NEED A FUCKING REVOLUTION to change these things. Because a Constitutional Convention --- they'd all kill each on the floor trying to come up with a 100% brand new Constitution..
So -- start a revolution Che.. Or read some of the founding documents. These guys weren't stupid about freedom and democracy...
Oh, I know why you're a republic. Mob rule 51 per cent take away the rights of the other 49 as Jefferson said. Two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner said Franklin. Both describing democracy.
Let's go back to Jefferson and his mob rule. "51 per cent take away the rights of 49 per cent of others.' This was from a slave owner. From a man who lived in a time where women couldn't vote. Where only land-owning men could vote. Taking away the rights of others. Blacks? Gays? How were their rights back then. How were their rights up until recently? Your FF were very flawed individuals, as is your constitution. Sure, on paper, looks great. However it doesn't have one amendment. It has 27, so it is far from perfect.
And you are right, they would tear each other apart. What does that tell you about your 'perfect' system.
You obviously don't understand the basis for the constitution or the way it was set up.
States are the prevailing entity.
Not our fucking federal government.