Education Secretary Linda McMahon announces mass layoffs at Dept. of Education - 50% of workforce

[WorldWatcher]

If you blame the state/local system then why shouldn't they be funding the 10% for more teachers and for disabled students? We don't need to be paying billions and billions of dollars in infrastructure in order fund pell grants. Let the states or others do that. And, if student loans aren't going to be paid back then we shouldn't be giving them out to those who don't have a reasonable expectation of paying them back.

I "blame" them only in recognition that curriculums and standards are set at the state level and not a function of federal education involvement.

But, fine my me.

Axe the ED. Eliminate additional resources for poor schools, resources for the disabled, eliminate Pell Grants, eliminate Federal Student loans, eliminate security grants to schools to upgrade security to help prevent mass shootings.

Use the money to balance the budge and pay down the debt.

Let the states pay for education on their own dime.

WW

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If you blame the state/local system then why shouldn't they be funding the 10% for more teachers and for disabled students? We don't need to be paying billions and billions of dollars in infrastructure in order fund pell grants. Let the states or others do that. And, if student loans aren't going to be paid back then we shouldn't be giving them out to those who don't have a reasonable expectation of paying them back.

They should, but back in the 1980s, they didn't! That's why the federal government had to do it.

There is no reason what else you want can't be accomplished, and I fully support that happening.

I just despise the ignorance and blaming the wrong people for the ills in education today.

 

[Billiejeens]

Such an erudite response. You are ******* worthless, so I won't bother.

Yet you did.

 

[Independent thinker]

I "blame" them only in recognition that curriculums and standards are set at the state level and not a function of federal education involvement.

But, fine my me.

Axe the ED. Eliminate additional resources for poor schools, resources for the disabled, eliminate Pell Grants, eliminate Federal Student loans, eliminate security grants to schools to upgrade security to help prevent mass shootings.

Use the money to balance the budge and pay down the debt.

Let the states pay for education on their own dime.

WW

Very little of it has worked or helped. Maybe you could link to what the department's mission statement is instead of telling us what it does. I'm guessing they are different. There is no reason we need a bunch of buildings in one of the most expensive areas in the country with thousands and thousands of employees just sitting around on their asses. Some of those things you mentioned that the department does can be done other ways without having a whole department bureaucracy to do them. Getting rid of the department doesn't mean we are getting rid of everything they do.

 

[Independent thinker]

They should, but back in the 1980s, they didn't! That's why the federal government had to do it.

There is no reason what else you want can't be accomplished, and I fully support that happening.

I just despise the ignorance and blaming the wrong people for the ills in education today.

I'm all for having a federal department of education if run properly and without a bureaucracy that wastes money and the purpose is to have better education across the country in order for our education system to move up in world ratings. But, it's obvious that that isn't happening with this department of education and leftists seem to say that that isn't even the purpose of the department.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yet you did.

I'm sorry. I have you on ignore since all you have to contribute is ignorance. That seems appropriate to me.

 

[whitehall]

Democrats had little sympathy for the kids who lost two years of education during Covid but they shed a crocodile tear for do-nothing federal drones who are laid off.

 

[rightwinger]

The Federal Student Loan ($1.7T) can be handled by another Federal agency; one with a financial focus.

$298B is beyond an Egregious Bloat.

What difference does it make which agency issues the loans? It is the same loan amount.

Many school districts struggle to educate special needs students who receive one on one instruction.
Who will provide that funding now?

Impoverished districts tax base can’t support decent schools, What happens when you cut their funding?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm all for having a federal department of education if run properly and without a bureaucracy that wastes money and the purpose is to have better education across the country in order for our education system to move up in world ratings. But, it's obvious that that isn't happening with this department of education.

That is because the problem is not solvable at that level. Do you know how California had the best schools in the country back in the days before the Education Department? The measurements were based on the kids in school at that time. They did not test kids with mental handicaps, and no one really required them to go to school. If a Hispanic kid didn't show up to school, the Anglos didn't really care. If he grew up speaking only Spanish, no one cared as he would just go pick lettuce somewhere. He didn't need an education. The kids in California who actually were educated came from a nuclear family, with a working Dad, stay-at-home Mom, and two-to-three-yard apes, curtain climbers, and carpet crawlers in the house. Do you think the typical California student grow up with that lifestyle today?

 

[jc456]

No. I was a teacher. A conservative teacher. I did ascribe to most liberal's view of education because first and foremost I am a realist, and I understand the history of education, as it goes along with my interest in history and my undergraduate degree.

Unfortunately, your lack of education in the field and any real experience has clouded your judgement.

one doesn't need to have experience to question anything in life. It is a given right. You may not like it, but that's a fact. The fact is, my tax dollars are used and I don't have a child in school, how is that fair? Explain that for us? Now you tell me I have no right to question decisions on money? you really have to be out of your mthr fking mind.

 

[jc456]

That is because the problem is not solvable at that level.

why it isn't needed and must be abolished.

 

[rightwinger]

The fact is, my tax dollars are used and I don't have a child in school, how is that fair? Explain that for us?

It is fair because when you were in school, someone paid for YOU
Including people who did not have kids in school

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

one doesn't need to have experience to question anything in life. It is a given right. You may not like it, but that's a fact. The fact is, my tax dollars are used and I don't have a child in school, how is that fair? Explain that for us? Now you tell me I have no right to question decisions on money? you really have to be out of your mthr fking mind.

I'm done. Off to ignore with you. You have proven to everyone on this board that you are a foul mouthed, uneducated fool. Enjoy what miserable existence you manage to eek out.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

why it isn't needed and must be abolished.

Where did I ever say that I opposed any change? I just questioned the reasoning behind it.

 

[Billiejeens]

I'm sorry. I have you on ignore since all you have to contribute is ignorance. That seems appropriate to me.

Thank You.

 

[WorldWatcher]

one doesn't need to have experience to question anything in life. It is a given right. You may not like it, but that's a fact. The fact is, my tax dollars are used and I don't have a child in school, how is that fair? Explain that for us? Now you tell me I have no right to question decisions on money? you really have to be out of your mthr fking mind.

I’ll make a deal.

We don’t charge you taxes for education.

For that you don’t use any goods or services provided by those who went to public schools.

No buying goods or services manufactured or delivered through the efforts of those educated in public schools.

No driving on roads designed and built by those educated in public schools.

No medical care from doctors, nurses, dentist, etc. educated in public schools.

Deal?

Or are you just going to suck at the teat provided by others.

WW

 

[LeftofLeft]

Do teachers raise kids from birth? If you as a teacher are given a student of 13 years of age, who has never attended a public school a day in their life, cannot add and subtract, nor read above a first grade level, how am I supposed to teach Algebra to that student and turn them into an overnight success when he bullies his classmates and is constantly starting fights? I face that very situation in my second year of teaching. Society changed from my generation 50 years ago when I was a high school freshman of 13 years old.

The biggest incident in my high school happened when an inner-city student who was bussed to our suburban high school decided to back talk my Vietnam era F-4 Phantom squadron commanding AFJROTC Colonel and then proceeded to try punch him. Thankfully my Colonel had enough sense not to kill him on the spot. That was the only incident I can recall from my 6 years in that school building.

When I was an assistant principal, my elementary school-aged daughter would ask me every day when I got home. "How many kids did you have to get arrested today?"

Sounds like society moved away from personal responsibility and accountability. And, school policies today have no problem teaching kids about sex changes on time that could be spent on reading and arithmetic.

 

[LeftofLeft]

What difference does it make which agency issues the loans? It is the same loan amount.

Many school districts struggle to educate special needs students who receive one on one instruction.
Who will provide that funding now?

Impoverished districts tax base can’t support decent schools, What happens when you cut their funding?

Fair enough. How much of that current $298B is going to special needs vs. how much is going towards unions and back to political party donations?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Republicans are threatened by education

Please point out the part of the Constitution that mentions the Education Department or the part that states education is mandated to the Federal Government

 

[rightwinger]

Please point out the part of the Constitution that mentions the Education Department or the part that states education is mandated to the Federal Government

Congress created the Department of Education

You lose