Education Of Palestinian Children

[toastman]

Wrong, Billo-boy. It was never anything else BUT wishing to kill them all. That's why they started the war in 1948 to begin with.

They lost, and whine till today because they refuse to accept the consequences.

Wrong! Arab armies went in to ensure the inalienable rights of the indigenous, non-Jewish population, which was being systematically stripped from them through the use of Jewish terrorist groups.

The Palestine question in the United Nations

The British Government's decision in February 1947 to place the Palestine question before the United Nations was followed by several weeks of examining the various alternatives and the difficulties they entailed.

Meanwhile, violence continued to spread in Palestine as Zionist terrorist groups, now on the offensive, stepped up their attacks and sabotage. Illegal immigration into Palestine increased sharply. With a regular session several months away, the British Government, under the pressure of violence in Palestine, requested a special session of the General Assembly to consider the appointment of a special committee "to make recommendations ... concerning the future government of Palestine"

According to the official UN record, the arab army's went in to stop the Zionists Plan Dalet.

Zionist policies of territorial expansion

As the British Government progressively disengaged from Palestine, and the United Nations was unable to replace it as an effective governing authority, the Zionist movement moved to establish control over the territory of the nascent Jewish State. At the same time the bordering Arab States made clear that they would intervene.

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So that say's, the war started because you fuckers started taking more land that you were given.

Did Israel attack those 5 Arab states or did those 5 Arab states attack Israel?

 

[toastman]

Wrong, Billo-boy. It was never anything else BUT wishing to kill them all. That's why they started the war in 1948 to begin with.

They lost, and whine till today because they refuse to accept the consequences.

Wrong! Arab armies went in to ensure the inalienable rights of the indigenous, non-Jewish population, which was being systematically stripped from them through the use of Jewish terrorist groups.

The Palestine question in the United Nations

The British Government's decision in February 1947 to place the Palestine question before the United Nations was followed by several weeks of examining the various alternatives and the difficulties they entailed.

Meanwhile, violence continued to spread in Palestine as Zionist terrorist groups, now on the offensive, stepped up their attacks and sabotage. Illegal immigration into Palestine increased sharply. With a regular session several months away, the British Government, under the pressure of violence in Palestine, requested a special session of the General Assembly to consider the appointment of a special committee "to make recommendations ... concerning the future government of Palestine"

According to the official UN record, the arab army's went in to stop the Zionists Plan Dalet.

Zionist policies of territorial expansion

As the British Government progressively disengaged from Palestine, and the United Nations was unable to replace it as an effective governing authority, the Zionist movement moved to establish control over the territory of the nascent Jewish State. At the same time the bordering Arab States made clear that they would intervene.

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So that say's, the war started because you fuckers started taking more land that you were given.

'The war started because you fuckers were given mire land then given'

That's funny, because after 5 Armies attacked Israel, Israel managed to capture 50% of the land allotted to the Palestinians.
Some help

Only a lying history distorting pro Palestinian would say israel started the war with thiose 5 Arab states.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Wrong, Billo-boy. It was never anything else BUT wishing to kill them all. That's why they started the war in 1948 to begin with.

They lost, and whine till today because they refuse to accept the consequences.

Wrong! Arab armies went in to ensure the inalienable rights of the indigenous, non-Jewish population, which was being systematically stripped from them through the use of Jewish terrorist groups.

According to the official UN record, the arab army's went in to stop the Zionists Plan Dalet.

Zionist policies of territorial expansion

As the British Government progressively disengaged from Palestine, and the United Nations was unable to replace it as an effective governing authority, the Zionist movement moved to establish control over the territory of the nascent Jewish State. At the same time the bordering Arab States made clear that they would intervene.

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So that say's, the war started because you fuckers started taking more land that you were given.

Did Israel attack those 5 Arab states or did those 5 Arab states attack Israel?

Those 5 Arab states entered Palestine and fought Israeli forces in Palestine.

 

[Roudy]

Wrong! Arab armies went in to ensure the inalienable rights of the indigenous, non-Jewish population, which was being systematically stripped from them through the use of Jewish terrorist groups.

According to the official UN record, the arab army's went in to stop the Zionists Plan Dalet.

So that say's, the war started because you fuckers started taking more land that you were given.

Did Israel attack those 5 Arab states or did those 5 Arab states attack Israel?

Those 5 Arab states entered Palestine and fought Israeli forces in Palestine.

Bull. Arabs didn't believe in a Palestine either, nor did they "enter" aka ATTACK Israel to liberate or create this mythical Palestine. Had the Arabs succeeded then the proceeds would have been divided amongst the Arabs and that would be it. Palestine the greatest hoax ever pulled would have been Shamlestine.

 

[Roudy]

So let me get this straight. The majority of Palestinians hold titles or deeds to this land they have lived on for generations now & are not just a bunch of land thieves. Is that correct?

See for yourself...

Yup that would be after the Arab invasion. By 1945 the Arabs hoards had come in from all the neighboring Arab states.

Proof of that is from mid 1800's to early 1900's Jews were a majority in Jerusalem.

 

[Phoenall]

How does ANYONE or ANY NATION even begin to negotiate peace with an enemy who prefers death over life? Will someone please explain?

>>In the conflict between Israel and the
Palestinians, the world has witnessed the
horrors of Palestinians committing suicide with
the intent of killing as many Israelis as possible.
This has been done both by suicide bombers
and by no-return killing sprees. Being openly
and actively promoted by the Palestinian
leadership one may ask how they could instil
such a desire that conflicts with the basic
survival instinct of every human being? During
the past few years of armed conflict the
Palestinian Authority [PA] has been making a
paramount effort to convince their own children
that there is no greater achievement than to die
for Allah in battle, known as Shahada. "Ask for
death" has been the PA's message to its
children via all the media at its disposal,
including children's TV broadcasting, the
educational system, cultural programs,
directives from political and religious leaders
and even from within the family. Polls show 72-
80% of Palestinian children would sacrifice their
lives for Allah. The PA has done everything in
its power to teach hatred to adult and young
minds; a monstrosity of historical proportions,
planting the seeds of the next war<<................

Give me liberty or give me death.

Hmmmm, what an odd thing to say.

In the Palestinians case they were given liberty and still preferred death, then blamed it all on the Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

Oh, Tinny - you're hilarious! And way off topic.

It is exactly on topic.

Either end the occupation, or kill'em all.

Are you still bleating about the LEGAL occupation as a defensive measure. Time to wise up and realise that the only way the occupation can end is if the Palestinians sit down and talk peace and mutual borders.

 

[MJB12741]

It's called Palestinian Mentality.

How does ANYONE or ANY NATION even begin to negotiate peace with an enemy who prefers death over life? Will someone please explain?

Give me liberty or give me death.

Hmmmm, what an odd thing to say.

In the Palestinians case they were given liberty and still preferred death, then blamed it all on the Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

Give me liberty or give me death.

Hmmmm, what an odd thing to say.

So was Al Queda fighting for their liberty when they rammed airplanes into the American buildings on 9-11?

Nah, Muslims aren't fighting for "liberty". In fact that's exactly what they are FIGHTING AGAINST!

Al Queda attacked another country.

The Palestinians are at home.

There is no comparison.

Are you saying that the Palestinians have never attacked another country, because I know of at least 6 they have attacked in recent years.

 

[Phoenall]

You've got that backwards, Billo-bully: it's the Palestinians who are seeking to 'kill 'em all' .

How are they going to do that? They can't even put up street lights without the IDF coming around later and shooting the lamps out at the top. They can't even fish their own territorial waters without an Israeli gunboat shooting at them. They can't even farm their fields, because some asshole next door, built a wall across their property.

They've been a population under occupation for the last 47 years, if they were able to wipe out Israel, they would've done it by now.

Take that lame ass propaganda and shove it up your ass!

Then it is time to sit down and talk peace and mutual borders isn't it. How many times in the last 66 years have they tried to wipe out Israel and failed, and every time they have had superior numbers. Seems that you have a habit of backing the wrong side.

 

[MJB12741]

Who were those scum sucking, low life bottom feeders that attaked & murdered the Israeli team at the Munich Olympics?

So was Al Queda fighting for their liberty when they rammed airplanes into the American buildings on 9-11?

Nah, Muslims aren't fighting for "liberty". In fact that's exactly what they are FIGHTING AGAINST!

Al Queda attacked another country.

The Palestinians are at home.

There is no comparison.

Are you saying that the Palestinians have never attacked another country, because I know of at least 6 they have attacked in recent years.

 

[Phoenall]

And it is the Palestinians who are the occupiers on Israel's land without any titles or deeds whatsoever.

Not according to official UN records.

Since when has the UN been the keepers of the land registry for the M.E. According to official Ottoman and British records the arab muslims owned very little land in Palestine, whereas the Jews owned a fair bit. The arab muslims were offered title and land deeds but refused because it made them liable for taxes and conscription.

 

[Phoenall]

Al Queda attacked another country.

The Palestinians are at home.

There is no comparison.

Hah? Palestinians are like their Arab Muslim brethren, invaders and squatters. There has never been a Palestinian country or state, ever.

Typical Israeli propaganda blabber.

Palestine has been a country since post WWI treaties.

A country does not cease to exist just because it is colonized/occupied.

So what was the name of the Palestinian leader that signed for and on behalf of the Palestinian people. Without that signature the treaties are not binding on the Palestinians or the rest of the world. We have argued this before and every time you have lost because you cant show a reliable source for your information, that Islamic professor has been discredited every time because he alters the words in treaties to include Palestine.

 

[Phoenall]

So let me get this straight. The majority of Palestinians hold titles or deeds to this land they have lived on for generations now & are not just a bunch of land thieves. Is that correct?

Not according to official UN records.

There is no relevance here.

Are you saying that all the people in the US who rent houses and apartments have no rights to their country because they own no land?

Not at all they have rental agreements that show they have lived there for a set period of time. The Palestinians have nothing other than mass produced rusty keys that have no matching locks. It has been proven that the majority of so called Palestinians can hardly trace their occupation back before 1948

 

[Phoenall]

Typical Israeli propaganda blabber.

Palestine has been a country since post WWI treaties.

A country does not cease to exist just because it is colonized/occupied.

A country?

So tell me, please, who were its people, of what ethnic group?

What kind of regime did it have? who was its prime minister, what was its history, its coin? what separated it as a country more then a wishful thinking of some deluded people?

You should ask that about the United States.

BTW, what is your ethnicity?

White anglo saxon with some Germanic. And I can trace my heritage back over 1,000 years

 

[Phoenall]

Typical Israeli propaganda blabber.

Palestine has been a country since post WWI treaties.

A country does not cease to exist just because it is colonized/occupied.

A country?

So tell me, please, who were its people, of what ethnic group?

What kind of regime did it have? who was its prime minister, what was its history, its coin? what separated it as a country more then a wishful thinking of some deluded people?

You should ask that about the United States.

BTW, what is your ethnicity?

let them take DNA tests to see what their ethnicity is and those that show a marked genetic source outside of Palestine to be sent back home.

 

[Phoenall]

Oh now I get it. The Palestinians have been "renting" the homes they live in from Israel. Thus they have "rights" to Israel. Take that you Zionists.

There is no relevance here.

Are you saying that all the people in the US who rent houses and apartments have no rights to their country because they own no land?

Interesting thought.

In international law, when a state is dissolved and new states are established, “the population follows the change of sovereignty in matters of nationality.”5 As a rule, therefore, citizens of the former state should automatically acquire the nationality of the successor state in which they had already been residing.

5 Ian Brownlie, “The Relations of Nationality in Public International Law,” The British Year Book of International Law, 1963, p. 220.

This means that all of the Palestinians whose normal residence was in what became Israel (including the refugees) are now legally Israelis.

Only if they were living there at the time and were not hostile to the new regime.

But using your criteria when Palestine ceased to be Ottoman, Jerusalem became wholly Jewish because it was owned by the Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

Dream on! If you rent a home in some foreign country, does that give you "rights" to that country as if you were a citizen?

Interesting thought.



This means that all of the Palestinians whose normal residence was in what became Israel (including the refugees) are now legally Israelis.

That would depend on visa and immigration policies.

Neither is applicable in this instance. This applies to normal residence.

What does apply is the International law on hostiles, which clearly states that they relinquish all rights of citizenship of the state and can be evicted. Which is what the Islamic states did in 1948, 1967 and 1973.

 

[Phoenall]

So then if my neighbor leaves his home for an extended period of time & I break in, the land & building belong to me?

That would depend on visa and immigration policies.

Neither is applicable in this instance. This applies to normal residence.

Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter,

Recalling its relevant resolutions which affirm the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination,

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:

(a) The right to self-determination without external interference;

(b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

2. Reaffirms also the inalienable right of the Palestinians to return to their homes and property from which they have been displaced and uprooted, and calls for their return;

UN General Assembly Resolution 3236 and UN General Assembly Resolution 3237

So where in this resolution does it say that the descendants of the Palestinians are to return to homes that they have never even seen. It is like the Palestinian charter that states only those Jews that were born in palestine before the Zionist invasion have the right to live there as Palestinians. They are all dead now so no Jew would be allowed to live if the Palestinians took over.
So the youngest Palestinian with the right of return will be 66, and very soon they will all be dead. problem solved for Israel and the PLO

 

[Phoenall]

Wrong, Billo-boy. It was never anything else BUT wishing to kill them all. That's why they started the war in 1948 to begin with.

They lost, and whine till today because they refuse to accept the consequences.

Wrong! Arab armies went in to ensure the inalienable rights of the indigenous, non-Jewish population, which was being systematically stripped from them through the use of Jewish terrorist groups.

The Palestine question in the United Nations

The British Government's decision in February 1947 to place the Palestine question before the United Nations was followed by several weeks of examining the various alternatives and the difficulties they entailed.

Meanwhile, violence continued to spread in Palestine as Zionist terrorist groups, now on the offensive, stepped up their attacks and sabotage. Illegal immigration into Palestine increased sharply. With a regular session several months away, the British Government, under the pressure of violence in Palestine, requested a special session of the General Assembly to consider the appointment of a special committee "to make recommendations ... concerning the future government of Palestine"

According to the official UN record, the arab army's went in to stop the Zionists Plan Dalet.

Zionist policies of territorial expansion

As the British Government progressively disengaged from Palestine, and the United Nations was unable to replace it as an effective governing authority, the Zionist movement moved to establish control over the territory of the nascent Jewish State. At the same time the bordering Arab States made clear that they would intervene.

From writings of Zionist leaders, it is evident that Zionist policy was to occupy, during the period of withdrawal, as much territory as possible (including the "West Bank") beyond the boundaries assigned to the Jewish State by the partition resolution.

So that say's, the war started because you fuckers started taking more land that you were given.

1) Nope they had decided to go in and wipe the Jews out as soon as the 1947 partition plan was put in place. The Jews were fighting for survival from 1929 when the grand mufti spread his BLOOD LIBELS that resulted in the Hebron massacre.

Here it is from Wiki

1948 Arab?Israeli War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The General Assembly decision on Partition was greeted with overwhelming joy in Jewish communities and widespread outrage in the Arab world. In Palestine, violence erupted almost immediately, feeding into a spiral of reprisals and counter-reprisals. The British refrained from intervening as tensions boiled over into a low-level conflict that quickly escalated into a full-scale civil-war.[19][20][21][22][23][24]

From January onwards, operations became increasingly militarized, with the intervention of a number of Arab Liberation Army regiments inside Palestine, each active in a variety of distinct sectors around the different coastal towns. They consolidated their presence in Galilee and Samaria.[25] Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni came from Egypt with several hundred men of the Army of the Holy War. Having recruited a few thousand volunteers, al-Husayni organized the blockade of the 100,000 Jewish residents of Jerusalem



2) so the Jewish groups were only taking control of the crumbs the UN had thrown them while the arab states were actively warmongering. And the arab states were heard to state they would wipe out the Jews.

The Arab League gave reasons for its invasion in Palestine in the cablegram:[59]
the Arab states find themselves compelled to intervene in order restore law and order and to check further bloodshed
the Mandate over Palestine has come to an end, leaving no legally constituted authority
the only solution of the Palestine problem is the establishment of a unitary Palestinian state.

Some unofficial statements before the war had been more aggressive. Secretary Azzam Pasha, according to an interview in an 11 October 1947 article of Akhbar al-Yom, said: "I personally wish that the Jews do not drive us to this war, as this will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades".

As for the west bank the Jews had already made agreements with Abdullah for him to annexe the west bank.

Same source

In 1946–47, Abdullah said that he had no intention to "resist or impede the partition of Palestine and creation of a Jewish state."[64] Ideally, Abdullah would have liked to annex all of Palestine, but he was prepared to compromise.[65][66] He supported the partition, intending that the West Bank area of the British Mandate allocated for the Arab state be annexed to Jordan.[67] Abdullah had secret meetings with the Jewish Agency (at which the future Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir was among the delegates) that reached an agreement of Jewish non-interference with Jordanian annexation of the West Bank (although Abdullah failed in his goal of acquiring an outlet to the Mediterranean Sea through the Negev desert) and of Jordanian agreement not to attack the area of the Jewish state contained in the United Nations partition resolution (in which Jerusalem was given neither to the Arab nor the Jewish state, but was to be an internationally administered area). In order to keep their support to his plan of annexion of the Arab State, Abdullah promised to the British he would not attack the Jewish State.