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Economically I'm ultra far left

Mortimer

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I support working less hours and days a week but with bigger payment I support welfare for everyone even the ones who work but don't earn above a certain amount so they can afford more some work but can not make a end with their bills I support free free housing for homeless free healthcare and to do that I support taxing the rich I support minimum taxes for the poor and low income classes
 

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Economically, most people are far left.

If we decided elections on purely economic issues, the Democrats/Liberals/whatever would win every time.

Sadly, we have social issues to keep the right in business playing on people's religious, racial and sexual fears.
 

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Economically, most people are far left.

If we decided elections on purely economic issues, the Democrats/Liberals/whatever would win every time.

Sadly, we have social issues to keep the right in business playing on people's religious, racial and sexual fears.
Economically speaking...most people are fucking idiots.
 

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IOW Mort?

You have never really taken an economics class, or really studied and read much on the subject. You post and you write from what you FEEL about the topic, not what you KNOW about the topic, just like most folks do.

That's NOT economically far left, that is just economically illiterate & ignorant.

. . . and yes, Joe is right, most people ARE economically uneducated and ignorant about how the distribution of resources in society work.

They say, economics is the dismal science. It is the study of the unlimited wants and unlimited needs of the people, with limited resources. Think about that in the context of what you wrote, and what lefties continue to advocate for.

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I support working less hours and days a week but with bigger payment I support welfare for everyone even the ones who work but don't earn above a certain amount so they can afford more some work but can not make a end with their bills I support free free housing for homeless free healthcare and to do that I support taxing the rich I support minimum taxes for the poor and low income classes
All poor people support getting more of other people's money.
 

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Economically speaking...most people are fucking idiots.

Are they?

Most people just want to have a roof over their heads and food on the table. If left to the right, they'd have a hard time doing that.

Used to be, you graduated high school, you joined a union, you were able to make a living wage and start a family.

Today, thanks to the wonders of conservatism, you leave college with a mountain of debt, you end up in a job with no protections, and you maybe put off having a family until your 30's when the Biological clock is ticking down.

I agree, the 47% who keep voting Republican are fucking idiots economically.
 

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If we decided elections on purely economic issues, the Democrats/Liberals/whatever would win every time.

There is a famous Scottish Aristocrat that felt much the same as you, and also felt, that because of this, Democracy is never sustainable as a workable form of government.

We may be seeing that in the history of our nation, mostly, because folks like you don't respect Republican form of government.

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Economically, most people are far left.

If we decided elections on purely economic issues, the Democrats/Liberals/whatever would win every time.

Sadly, we have social issues to keep the right in business playing on people's religious, racial and sexual fears.
Joe!
 

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you leave college with a mountain of debt

The reason you leave college with a mountain of debt has to do with government getting involved with student loans.

The department of Education was established in 1979. Back then, college was dirt cheap. Now? It is astronomical. But? Since you worship government, and don't have a clue how economics work? YOU ARE CLUELESS!

 

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I support working less hours and days a week but with bigger payment I support welfare for everyone even the ones who work but don't earn above a certain amount so they can afford more some work but can not make a end with their bills I support free free housing for homeless free healthcare and to do that I support taxing the rich I support minimum taxes for the poor and low income classes
Hi Mort!
Who and what are the certain amount? " the ones who work but don't earn above a certain amount "
 

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I support working less hours and days a week but with bigger payment I support welfare for everyone even the ones who work but don't earn above a certain amount so they can afford more some work but can not make a end with their bills I support free free housing for homeless free healthcare and to do that I support taxing the rich I support minimum taxes for the poor and low income classes
There aren’t enough evil rich people to pay for all the freebies you want. What will happen is that the middle class will be taxed so much that they will live a similar lifestyle to those on government assistance. In some cases, if the socialists have their way, people on government assistance will live BETTER than those who support themselves.
 

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The reason you leave college with a mountain of debt has to do with government getting involved with student loans.

The department of Education was established in 1979. Back then, college was dirt cheap. Now? It is astronomical. But? Since you worship government, and don't have a clue how economics work? YOU ARE CLUELESS!

Take a breather, beale.
 

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There aren’t enough evil rich people to pay for all the freebies you want. What will happen is that the middle class will be taxed so much that they will live a similar lifestyle to those on government assistance. In some cases, if the socialists have their way, people on government assistance will live BETTER than those who support themselves.
BS. Love your crystal ball.
 

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Economically speaking, most folks in America spend all their discretionary income. They live pay check to pay check. That's why a twenty cents increase in the price of gas/gallon, matters.
So if you know, no matter how rich or poor you are, that you are going to live, paycheck to paycheck, you need to make a budget, and put a little aside every check, to build wealth and not be a moron.
 
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All poor people support getting more of other people's money.

Okay, let's look at that.

Poverty relief spending.

Food Stamps $85 Billion
Section 8 housing $68.7 Billion
TANF $30 Billion
WIC 4.9 Billion
Medicaid 359 Billion

So total of Poverty Relief programs- $548 billion.


Middle Class Entitlements

Social Security - 1.1 TRILLION
Medicare - $776 Billion
Unemployment spending - 794 billion in 2020 (although usually a lot less.)
Veterans Administration - 270 Billion

So total spending on middle class entitlements in 2020 was 3.488 TRILLION. Even taking out the fluke of 2020 and unemployment, we still spend six times as much keeping middle class white people from becoming poor than we do keeping poor people of color from outright starving.
 

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So if you know, no matter how rich or poor you are, that you are going to live, paycheck to paycheck, you need to make a budget, and put a little aside every check, to build wealth and not be a moron.
You know as well as I do that working Americans don't do that. They spend everything they make. To excess. Democrat or Republican. Tax refunds are their savings accounts. Get real.
 

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BS. Love your crystal ball.
No crystal ball. I see an example of it right now. In the ultra-liberal county where my mother lives, and thus there are all sorts of giveaway policies, the people who never saved enough to pay for assisted living get an upscale new facility, complete with a gorgeous dining room and granite/stainless steel kitchens, pay a pittance to live there. My mother lives across the street in a comfortable but not lavish facility for which she pays 5x as much.

My sister and I joke that once Mom‘s money runs low enough, she can move to an upscale place and live with the other low-income people. Right now she’s too rich to afford it.
 
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Erinwltr

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Okay, let's look at that.

Poverty relief spending.

Food Stamps $85 Billion
Section 8 housing $68.7 Billion
TANF $30 Billion
WIC 4.9 Billion
Medicaid 359 Billion

So total of Poverty Relief programs- $548 billion.


Middle Class Entitlements

Social Security - 1.1 TRILLION
Medicare - $776 Billion
Unemployment spending - 794 billion in 2020 (although usually a lot less.)
Veterans Administration - 270 Billion

So total spending on middle class entitlements in 2020 was 3.488 TRILLION. Even taking out the fluke of 2020 and unemployment, we still spend six times as much keeping middle class white people from becoming poor than we do keeping poor people of color from outright starving.
Damn. How about corporate welfare, Joe?
 

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