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[TemplarKormac]

I hear it quite often in this day and age, "freedom of opinion." It is a staple of American freedom. But I've been thinking about that this morning, and well, no there is no freedom of opinion anymore. It's impossible for one to have a personal opinion these days. If a person happens to belong to any political party, in reality they have ceded the essences of their opinions to the ideals and directions of the party they belong to. I know, I was a brash young Republican not long ago, my opinions and responses hinged on every ideal the party represented.

But then I had an epiphany: are my opinions really my own? Am I really thinking for myself? The answer to those questions were clearly obvious. Not at all. The disingenuous political stances my 'party' stood for had been dictating my opinions. I was no longer thinking for myself. I had turned into a parrot; a mouthpiece, repeating anything and everything my party was telling me to. Enough was enough. This is what facilitated my transformation into a libertarian. The pattern isn't hard to recognize, really. Politics has a bad way of robbing a person the ability to think for himself. The freedom to have an opinion suddenly hinges on whether someone agrees with them or not. They feel compelled to change the opinions of others and react hostilely to anyone who refuses. Examples of this exist on both ends of the political spectrum.

Firstly, black men, black women, white women and Hispanics have all been co-opted by the Democrats. Their opinions must match the party's platform, or else they're racist, misogynistic, anti immigrant or an Uncle Tom. Examples include Herman Cain, Mia Love, Sarah Palin and Marco Rubio. On the Republican side it is equally as unnerving. Just a few hours ago, I was reading a thread where conservatives were being urged to 'let the gay shit go.' The author dubbed anyone who didn't see eye to eye as a 'hater.' In some ways this could be worse than what Democrats are doing; asking a person to simply sacrifice his or her own ideals and opinions for a little capitulation to the mainstream way of thought. Our Founding Fathers strove for the freedom of thought, not to ascribe to the 'joiners vs. thinkers' mentality. Its as if either party believes they have a monopoly on free thought. Oh, how wrong they are.

The monotony of the two party system is this: Opinion is fact, fact is opinion. One or the other can be summarily dismissed if it doesn't conform to the established way of thinking and doing things. Many intelligent people are victimized by this mentality, and as a result are using such a gift for deleterious means. There is no freedom of opinion in Politics anymore. People are eager to trumpet the causes of their own side; all the meanwhile completely unaware they are being used as tools, and not for the causes of the nation as a whole. The most prominent people in history chose to think for themselves, to not be dictated to by a fixed set of ideals. Politics has a way of stealing away the most precious gem in dwelling in each of us. Our souls.

So you replaced one meaningless term to describe yourself with another?

Why?

You are what YOU ARE. You are unique and I seriously doubt that one word can describe the depth and breadth of your political POVs.

Why limit yourself with a label that will only MISLEAD people?

You're not a cartoon character, you're a thinking human being.

Huh? I don't even know how to respond to this post. Did I strike a nerve? I know what I am, and I won't have others telling me what I am and what I am not. I resent being called a liar, and this OP isn't meant to mislead anyone.

I am what I am, editec. If you don't like the personality I have assumed here, I can help you put me on ignore, because TemplarKormac isn't going anywhere. If you honestly believe that I have problems discerning reality from fantasy, then quite frankly my friend, you have no idea who you're dealing with.

 

[TemplarKormac]

This is a funny thread. President Obama is barely center left. The ACA is basically the health care plan of Romney and the Heritage Foundation. Yet now they label it Communistic. That is how far to the right that the GOP has moved. The GOP lost the minorities because they adapted a 21st Century version of the southern strategy. The racist and often putrid references to the Hispanic community of the type we have seen on this board and even repeated by some in the official GOP have turned off a community that is normally fairly conservative.

Ignoring the demographics of the US Citizens is a sure fire way to end up short at the ballot box.

This post is funny. Actually, Obamacare derives its roots from Hillarycare, or what was known as the Health Security Act of 1993. This was going on way before Romney stepped foot in the governor's office. And yes, as with Obamacare, it is redistributionist. I find it quite ironic that liberals like you are now trashing the ACA, after blindly supporting it before. What happened?

At any rate, if the Republicans were ignoring minorities, why are you guys exploiting them? You appeal their emotional side, not their rational side. Why do you continue to play the race card when none of your other ideals appeal to the American people? Last time I checked, Old Rocks, Republican speechwriters don't look to a random political messageboard for their material.

A path to citizenship is appealing to 'emotions?' This is why I sometimes really can't take you seriously.

More like a path around our immigration and enforcement law. This is why I don't take you seriously. Period. Why have laws if you're going to pass laws that circumvent other laws?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Firstly, black men, black women, white women and Hispanics have all been co-opted by the Democrats. Their opinions must match the party's platform, or else they're racist, misogynistic, anti immigrant or an Uncle Tom.

I completely disagree with this statement. Democrats have not "co-opted" these people. But these people are extremely wary of the republican party because there is an open belief amongst republicans that these people's cultures are eroding and damaging this country. That's a big turn off and, in my opinion, the major obstacle facing the GOP in attracting minority votes.

I'm not saying republicans are racist at all. That's a completely separate idea.

Could you please define for us what "black culture" is, exactly? Or "Hispanic culture"? I'd love to know how Republicans/conservatives are supposed to believe it's "eroding our country" when, as far as I can tell, there isn't any such thing. Sounds like a bunch of made-up propaganda that a lot of very dumb, lazy people have decided to buy into.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Firstly, black men, black women, white women and Hispanics have all been co-opted by the Democrats. Their opinions must match the party's platform, or else they're racist, misogynistic, anti immigrant or an Uncle Tom.

I completely disagree with this statement. Democrats have not "co-opted" these people. But these people are extremely wary of the republican party because there is an open belief amongst republicans that these people's cultures are eroding and damaging this country. That's a big turn off and, in my opinion, the major obstacle facing the GOP in attracting minority votes.

I'm not saying republicans are racist at all. That's a completely separate idea.

neither statement is true.
especially about white women

those are at the very least 50/50 and the majority clearly migrate from the democrat-leaning while being young and single ( and not very bright) to being married and taking care of the family ( when the realities of life school you fast)

Whoops. I actually missed that. I'd also like a definition of "white women culture", as well.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Well as the far left has demonstrated that they believe that their programmed opinions/propaganda is "fact".

Once the far left learns that their programming is DNC propaganda then we all can move forward.

Hey now, both sides are guilty of this. People on both sides are being programmed by their parties to think one way or another.

I disagree, Templar. Thoughts (which is what opinions are) are the only things we truly own and control in our lives, and minus advanced, intensive brainwashing techniques, no one can "program" us to think anything.

I think it's the individuals who are to blame. People are lazy, and it's so damned easy to just kneejerk to a fast, easy answer without thinking it through that dogma becomes really appealing.

Do political parties take advantage of this human tendency? Sure. Are they responsible for creating it? Nope.

Our political parties take advantage of the "your team, my team" mentality. It isn't about facts, but about who is and who isn't on your team. Free thought goes right out of the window. Are they responsible for creating thought? No, but they are quite capable of influencing it. Thus where I get the notion that people are 'programmed' into supporting one side over another. The cognitive dissonance both parties encourage is quite serious. The absence of free thought is almost nowhere to be seen. While we do own our thoughts, we are capable of allowing who and what may influence them or occupy them.

 

[Moonglow]

This post is funny. Actually, Obamacare derives its roots from Hillarycare, or what was known as the Health Security Act of 1993. This was going on way before Romney stepped foot in the governor's office. And yes, as with Obamacare, it is redistributionist. I find it quite ironic that liberals like you are now trashing the ACA, after blindly supporting it before. What happened?

At any rate, if the Republicans were ignoring minorities, why are you guys exploiting them? You appeal their emotional side, not their rational side. Why do you continue to play the race card when none of your other ideals appeal to the American people? Last time I checked, Old Rocks, Republican speechwriters don't look to a random political messageboard for their material.

A path to citizenship is appealing to 'emotions?' This is why I sometimes really can't take you seriously.

More like a path around our immigration and enforcement law. This is why I don't take you seriously. Period. Why have laws if you're going to pass laws that circumvent other laws?

'We'll send criminals home first': Obama administration prepares to deport record numbers of illegal immigrants

Government is deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said


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Most distressing is Bush's assertion that deportation of millions of illegal aliens is "impossible."

Why Is it "Impossible" to Deport Illegal Aliens, Mr. Bush?

 

[TemplarKormac]

I hear it quite often in this day and age, "freedom of opinion."

So. From one sentence that is from an intro paragraph. you try to explain your myopic feeble attempt at writing a serious epitaph of your one horse town mind espousing your epiphany?

Why waste digital space and just re post or bump one of your other tired threads that you attempt to cement your id and ego upon us? You must have a bounty of free time in your attempts to post your tired redundant reiteration rhetoric you so bore us with.

Me thinks your time may be better spent.

I don't have time for your trash. Negged.

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is a funny thread. President Obama is barely center left. The ACA is basically the health care plan of Romney and the Heritage Foundation. Yet now they label it Communistic. That is how far to the right that the GOP has moved. The GOP lost the minorities because they adapted a 21st Century version of the southern strategy. The racist and often putrid referances to the Hispanic community of the type we have seen on this board and even repeated by some in the official GOP have turned off a community that is normally fairly conservative.

Ignoring the demograpics of the US Citizens is a sure fire way to end up short at the ballot box.

Today's gop already has universal care: medicare.

Yes, because conservatives are SUCH big fans of Medicare.

 

[Moonglow]

Hey now, both sides are guilty of this. People on both sides are being programmed by their parties to think one way or another.

I disagree, Templar. Thoughts (which is what opinions are) are the only things we truly own and control in our lives, and minus advanced, intensive brainwashing techniques, no one can "program" us to think anything.

I think it's the individuals who are to blame. People are lazy, and it's so damned easy to just kneejerk to a fast, easy answer without thinking it through that dogma becomes really appealing.

Do political parties take advantage of this human tendency? Sure. Are they responsible for creating it? Nope.

Our political parties take advantage of the "your team, my team" mentality. It isn't about facts, but about who is and who isn't on your team. Free thought goes right out of the window. Are they responsible for creating thought? No, but they are quite capable of influencing it. Thus where I get the notion that people are 'programmed' into supporting one side over another. The cognitive dissonance both parties encourage is quite serious. The absence of free thought is almost nowhere to be seen. While we do own our thoughts, we are capable of allowing who and what may influence them or occupy them.

Religion also brainwashes people, you can't deny that fact, yet you are religious.

 

[Katzndogz]

I think some of you are missing the point of my message, while some of you are absolutely on point. The fact there are those of you that you see each other as an enemy or ally, friend or foe, is proof positive that freedom of opinion no longer exists.

Not even close. It is quite possible to evaluate democrats as an enemy independently by independent observation and evaluation of facts and events.

 

[TemplarKormac]

A path to citizenship is appealing to 'emotions?' This is why I sometimes really can't take you seriously.

More like a path around our immigration and enforcement law. This is why I don't take you seriously. Period. Why have laws if you're going to pass laws that circumvent other laws?

'We'll send criminals home first': Obama administration prepares to deport record numbers of illegal immigrants

Government is deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said


Read more: Obama prepares to deport record numbers of illegal immigrants | Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Most distressing is Bush's assertion that deportation of millions of illegal aliens is "impossible."

Why Is it "Impossible" to Deport Illegal Aliens, Mr. Bush?

No.

New documents reveal Obama administration 'cooking the books' to achieve record deportation numbers | The Daily Caller

 

[Moonglow]

I hear it quite often in this day and age, "freedom of opinion."

So. From one sentence that is from an intro paragraph. you try to explain your myopic feeble attempt at writing a serious epitaph of your one horse town mind espousing your epiphany?

Why waste digital space and just re post or bump one of your other tired threads that you attempt to cement your id and ego upon us? You must have a bounty of free time in your attempts to post your tired redundant reiteration rhetoric you so bore us with.

Me thinks your time may be better spent.

I don't have time for your trash. Negged.

Ty for negging me for my opinion, those things you say do not exist.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Firstly, black men, black women, white women and Hispanics have all been co-opted by the Democrats. Their opinions must match the party's platform, or else they're racist, misogynistic, anti immigrant or an Uncle Tom.

I completely disagree with this statement. Democrats have not "co-opted" these people. But these people are extremely wary of the republican party because there is an open belief amongst republicans that these people's cultures are eroding and damaging this country. That's a big turn off and, in my opinion, the major obstacle facing the GOP in attracting minority votes.

I'm not saying republicans are racist at all. That's a completely separate idea.

this is the same reheated bullshit he's trying to spoonfeed people.

Basically it goes like this: Blacks and other Minorities vote dem because gosh darnnit they dont know any better.

They have to think this way or be forced to answer other hard questions like: If they know better what could be deterring these groups from the GOP?

 

[Vox]

This is a funny thread. President Obama is barely center left. The ACA is basically the health care plan of Romney and the Heritage Foundation. Yet now they label it Communistic. That is how far to the right that the GOP has moved. The GOP lost the minorities because they adapted a 21st Century version of the southern strategy. The racist and often putrid references to the Hispanic community of the type we have seen on this board and even repeated by some in the official GOP have turned off a community that is normally fairly conservative.

Ignoring the demographics of the US Citizens is a sure fire way to end up short at the ballot box.

This post is funny. Actually, Obamacare derives its roots from Hillarycare, or what was known as the Health Security Act of 1993. This was going on way before Romney stepped foot in the governor's office. And yes, as with Obamacare, it is redistributionist. I find it quite ironic that liberals like you are now trashing the ACA, after blindly supporting it before. What happened?

At any rate, if the Republicans were ignoring minorities, why are you guys exploiting them? You appeal their emotional side, not their rational side. Why do you continue to play the race card when none of your other ideals appeal to the American people? Last time I checked, Old Rocks, Republican speechwriters don't look to a random political messageboard for their material.

A path to citizenship is appealing to 'emotions?' This is why I sometimes really can't take you seriously.

yes, it is.

because there is already a path to citizenship. It is called current immigration law

 

[NYcarbineer]

Firstly, black men, black women, white women and Hispanics have all been co-opted by the Democrats. Their opinions must match the party's platform, or else they're racist, misogynistic, anti immigrant or an Uncle Tom.

I completely disagree with this statement. Democrats have not "co-opted" these people. But these people are extremely wary of the republican party because there is an open belief amongst republicans that these people's cultures are eroding and damaging this country. That's a big turn off and, in my opinion, the major obstacle facing the GOP in attracting minority votes.

I'm not saying republicans are racist at all. That's a completely separate idea.

Yes they have, otherwise they would tell the truth on them being the party of NO in the Civil Rights act of 1964.

When is the DNC and their programmed minions going to own up to it?

The DNC media combined with the far left take over of the public school system is not helping matters.

I've never heard a single Democrat deny that southern conservative Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Can you name whoever you're talking about?

 

[Moonglow]

I think some of you are missing the point of my message, while some of you are absolutely on point. The fact there are those of you that you see each other as an enemy or ally, friend or foe, is proof positive that freedom of opinion no longer exists.

Not even close. It is quite possible to evaluate democrats as an enemy independently by independent observation and evaluation of facts and events.

And from your abilities at that element of evaluation shows that your bias over rules your judgement capability.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So. From one sentence that is from an intro paragraph. you try to explain your myopic feeble attempt at writing a serious epitaph of your one horse town mind espousing your epiphany?

Why waste digital space and just re post or bump one of your other tired threads that you attempt to cement your id and ego upon us? You must have a bounty of free time in your attempts to post your tired redundant reiteration rhetoric you so bore us with.

Me thinks your time may be better spent.

I don't have time for your trash. Negged.

Ty for negging me for my opinion, those things you say do not exist.

That was an opinion? Try harder.

 

[Moonglow]

I completely disagree with this statement. Democrats have not "co-opted" these people. But these people are extremely wary of the republican party because there is an open belief amongst republicans that these people's cultures are eroding and damaging this country. That's a big turn off and, in my opinion, the major obstacle facing the GOP in attracting minority votes.

I'm not saying republicans are racist at all. That's a completely separate idea.

Yes they have, otherwise they would tell the truth on them being the party of NO in the Civil Rights act of 1964.

When is the DNC and their programmed minions going to own up to it?

The DNC media combined with the far left take over of the public school system is not helping matters.

I've never heard a single Democrat deny that southern conservative Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Can you name whoever you're talking about?

The dead straw men of yester-year.

 

[Kosh]

Hey now, both sides are guilty of this. People on both sides are being programmed by their parties to think one way or another.

True, but the far left seems to be the worst of the lot and far more dangerous and damaging.

I've asked this too many times and you've never been able (and likely can't) define what you mean by the "far left". It appears the OP is spot on, you're one of those who simply parrots what you've been told. Maybe you're too poorly educated to actually think - it is a learned skill - and that's sad.

It has been defined and you never answered any of my questions.

You are upset because you don't want to admit that you are far left.

 

[Vox]

I disagree, Templar. Thoughts (which is what opinions are) are the only things we truly own and control in our lives, and minus advanced, intensive brainwashing techniques, no one can "program" us to think anything.

I think it's the individuals who are to blame. People are lazy, and it's so damned easy to just kneejerk to a fast, easy answer without thinking it through that dogma becomes really appealing.

Do political parties take advantage of this human tendency? Sure. Are they responsible for creating it? Nope.

Our political parties take advantage of the "your team, my team" mentality. It isn't about facts, but about who is and who isn't on your team. Free thought goes right out of the window. Are they responsible for creating thought? No, but they are quite capable of influencing it. Thus where I get the notion that people are 'programmed' into supporting one side over another. The cognitive dissonance both parties encourage is quite serious. The absence of free thought is almost nowhere to be seen. While we do own our thoughts, we are capable of allowing who and what may influence them or occupy them.

Religion also brainwashes people, you can't deny that fact, yet you are religious.

lewtwing political agenda is even worse than religion as it brainwashes to believe in the policies which are AGAINST the average human being, yet you and others are fanatical leftards believers.