Drudge: Great Abortion article; 55 million abortions since roe/wade

Slavery was legal too. Owners had a choice -- either own a slave or don't.
So Libberhoids should have no problem with slavery.
After all, you fuckers created the KKK.
 
What kinds of women, demographically, have abortions? Are we talking members of high society and Mensa? Lots of Norwegians and Scots/Irish? College educated? Working, etc?

Promiscuous, irresponsible, careless and stupid women, of all colors, all races, all faiths, all ethnic groups, all levels of economic and educational level.
 
How many of those abortions are to say teenagers? To single mothers near or in poverty? To rape victims? Where the baby has birth defects? Where the mother's life is in danger?

Get those numbers. Funny I hear conservatives (state that young people shouldn't have a baby until they are married, after they complete school and have a job that can support a family! Yet when a opps happens, many of these conservatives that are far right pro-lifers (meaning no exceptions to abortion) say you can't have an abortion not matter what. Sorry I have trouble with that hypocrisy.

My stance is always is that abortion is inherently wrong, but it's the lesser of many evils.

1st Trimester:
Abortion is legal, but the woman should have to hear an ultra sound and be given materials on adoption.

2nd Trimester:
Abortion is illegal , except for cases of incest, rape, birth defects or mother's life is in danger.

3rd Trimester:
Abortion is illegal except for birth defects and mother's life is in danger!
 
*yawn*

same old same old. The pretense that we must have abortion for all in order to facilitate medical treatment to pregnant women, and the pretense that women who are raped and teenagers are best served by coerced abortion that protects their abusers by hiding the crime....while inflicting even more physical and psychological damage on them at the abortion clinic itself.
 
Some how, if pro-choicers were winning this battle, I don't think they'd be championing this 'mind you own business' last ditch effort rhetoric.


It's not as simple as minding your own business when morally/ethically this is a matter of life and death

No, the issue concerns the fact that you and others opposed to privacy rights fail to offer a solution to end the practice that comports with the Constitution.
 
Your right to privacy doesn't trump the right to life.

If it did, we would never prosecute murders conducted in *private*.
 
Some how, if pro-choicers were winning this battle, I don't think they'd be championing this 'mind you own business' last ditch effort rhetoric.


It's not as simple as minding your own business when morally/ethically this is a matter of life and death

They use these empty rationalization,so as to not offend themselves,by admitting what it really is,the death of a completely genetically unique individual,that just isn't as big nor independent as themselves. The crazy ass excuses are endless but not rational at all.
 
Some how, if pro-choicers were winning this battle, I don't think they'd be championing this 'mind you own business' last ditch effort rhetoric.


It's not as simple as minding your own business when morally/ethically this is a matter of life and death

No, the issue concerns the fact that you and others opposed to privacy rights fail to offer a solution to end the practice that comports with the Constitution.

This is a perfect example of their twisted minds,because I don't offer a solution,Iam responsible,and they are not.

The solution is don't kill children ever, this is simple shit here!!
 
Some how, if pro-choicers were winning this battle, I don't think they'd be championing this 'mind you own business' last ditch effort rhetoric.


It's not as simple as minding your own business when morally/ethically this is a matter of life and death

No, the issue concerns the fact that you and others opposed to privacy rights fail to offer a solution to end the practice that comports with the Constitution.

Killing unwanted children comports with the U.S. Constitution?
 
This is where they say:

1. there are too many people anyway
2. you don't want to support their children anyway
3. they have abortion in Israel, don't they?
4. the babies would be deformed monsters!
5. what do you expect raped women to do...turn in the rapists?
6. white people shouldn't adopt black babies!
7. you hate poor people!
 
I saw a link to this article on Drudge today and wondered if I could get the thoughts from both pro-choice and pro-life people on the points raised in this opinion piece. I bolded things that stood out to me:



What can I say that hasn’t already been said about today?

Yesterday evening, I was sitting in my living room working while watching my sons play. I began to think about what my life would have been without them. How different I would be. How their lives have already made this world a different place since they were born. How much I would hurt if I had chosen abortion.

Then, I thought of the more than 55,000,000 lives that have been taken in the U.S. since 1973, and I became overwhelmed at the tragedy. Tragedy for the babies, their mothers, their fathers, families, and us.

Who is our nation missing? What price is our society paying for the ultimate deceit of abortion?

40 years ago today, seven men on the Supreme Court decided in favor of a case presented to them from a 27 year-old, unknown, post-abortive lawyer, Sarah Weddington. That case was Roe v. Wade and, along with its companion Doe v. Bolton, it legalized abortion in all 9 months of pregnancy, for any reason, in the United States.

Today, this 27 year-old is writing to you as a survivor of that decision. The undeniable fact is that nearly a third of my generation is missing. We are missing brothers, sisters, cousins, friends, husbands and wives.

You see, Miss Weddington’s generation got it wrong. In attempting to correct gender inequality in the workplace and in our society, they set into motion the ultimate act of discrimination – abortion. Instead of glorifying motherhood, they pitted the mother against her child, creating an endless cycle of selfishness, pain, and deceit.

But this generation is determined to set it right. We’ve seen the ultrasounds of our siblings, googled “abortion” and seen the bloody images, and sat with a friend as she cried about her abortion. This youth generation is the most pro-life generation of young people since 1973; we’re even more pro-life than even our parents’ generation.
And this week our presence will be known as this generation will be the predominant participants in Friday’s March for Life in Washington, D.C. and pro-life rallies across the nation.

This week, we will be proudly carrying our “I am the Pro-Life Generation” signs, and Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry will watch their target audience slip away.

In fact, we already have. When Nancy Keenan, the former president of NARAL/Pro-Choice America, announced her resignation last year, she cited the lack of young pro-abortion leaders as the reason she wanted to step down. This month’s Time magazine headline story dealt with the same problem, claiming that the pro-abortion movement has been losing since 1973.

And last week’s new Planned Parenthood video and talking points on abortion confirm this fact. They don’t want to use the term “pro-choice” anymore because it’s too negatively associated with abortion. You see, they know when abortion is mentioned, their favorability falls. Their goal? Never bring it up.

So, what should be our goal? To bring up abortion in every conversation we can – in church, the grocery store, at school, and at the neighborhood party. To never forget about abortion, no matter how busy our lives may get or how sad or immobilized we become by this immense, overwhelming tragedy.

Friend, it’s time to rise up. Rise up off of your couch, out of your dorm room, or pew. Rise up and dedicate your life to something bigger than yourself.

It is the time for us to tell our stories to our friends and family about how abortion has hurt us. It’s time to paint the vision by telling people what our nation will look like without abortion and how it’s possible. It’s time to seek real justice with those young women and men facing unplanned, crisis pregnancies. It’s time to shine the light of truth, to expose Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry for what they really are.

It’s the time to stand courageously for Life.

Friends, I believe this generation of survivors will see abortion abolished in our lifetime. But it won’t be easy.

“Never give up, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn.” – Harriet Beecher Stowe

I hope today, on this day of overwhelming sorrow, you will join us. There’s so much you can do.




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I Am Overwhelmed by 55 Million Babies Killed Since Roe v. Wade | LifeNews.com

Don't consider myself pro-either side. If my own girlfriend or wife got pregnant it'd be by deisgn and a 'wanted pregnancy.' Would be against her getting an abortion unless her life or well-being was threatened by it, or in case someone raped her and got her pegnant. But as a matter of legislation, what other people do to their own blood is on their soul, not mine. Have enough going on in my life without minding other people's business.

As an aside it's always seemed strange to me how Republicans are usually the ones against abortion, and Democrats are the ones for it. Dunno for certain, but am of the impression most abortions are to minority women. If Republicans got their way and it became illegal again, wouldn't there be a great increase in minorities and thus Democrats? Isn't having the anti-abortion plank sorta self-defeating?

See there a huge difference between your brain and others,pro life people look at the unborn as people,not voting blocks or us-full tissues.

Its called humanity
 
Thread cleaned - please get back on topic which is, for the uninitiated - Abortion (not non-procreative sexual idiosyncracies). Thanks :)
 
This is where they say:

1. there are too many people anyway
2. you don't want to support their children anyway
3. they have abortion in Israel, don't they?
4. the babies would be deformed monsters!
5. what do you expect raped women to do...turn in the rapists?
6. white people shouldn't adopt black babies!
7. you hate poor people!

its not your business...do shut up already.
 
This is where they say:

1. there are too many people anyway
2. you don't want to support their children anyway
3. they have abortion in Israel, don't they?
4. the babies would be deformed monsters!
5. what do you expect raped women to do...turn in the rapists?
6. white people shouldn't adopt black babies!
7. you hate poor people!

its not your business...do shut up already.

You should have been aborted.
 
This is where they say:

1. there are too many people anyway
2. you don't want to support their children anyway
3. they have abortion in Israel, don't they?
4. the babies would be deformed monsters!
5. what do you expect raped women to do...turn in the rapists?
6. white people shouldn't adopt black babies!
7. you hate poor people!

its not your business...do shut up already.

Well, you certainly have seen fit to make it your business.. that and pretty much everything else.. you lefties slay me.. you stick your nose in everything and then tell everyone else to butt out.

Sorry PlasticBalls... killing babies is everyone's business.
 
Seeing as how the numbers of women seeking abortion before Roe v Wade is statiscally the same as after, I'm more concerned about the number of women who died after a botched abortion during those illegal years. It's been estimated to be 10k or over.

That is a completely bogus figure. A lie. A willful lie propagate by NARAL, and they knew they were lying when they said it.

And now you are regurgitating that lie unquestioningly.
 
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