Dr. Fauci Concedes the Coronavirus Mortality Rate May Be Much Closer to a Very Bad Flu

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The reprehensible right refuses to stop downplaying the seriousness of the pandemic, playing partisan politics instead.

âThe attack rate is relatively high as thereâs no immunity to it.â Why coronavirus was never going to be just another flu

President Trump suspended all travel to the U.S. from Europe and declared a national emergency over COVID-19’s rapid spread.

www.marketwatch.com

 

[Vastator]

Well well...
The case fatality rate is far, far lower than we’ve been lead to believe. Are we willing to destroy America over a bad case of the flu?

____________

On Thursday Dr. Fauci co-authored a report on the coronavirus in the New England Journal of Medicine.

The report, entitled “Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted”, was co-authored by Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., H. Clifford Lane, M.D., and Robert R. Redfield, M.D.

Here’s a direct quote from that report:

“If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2“

Dr. Fauci Concedes the Coronavirus Mortality Rate May Be Much Closer to a Very Bad Flu - Ice Age Now

The case fatality rate is far, far lower than we’ve been lead to believe. ____________ On Thursday Dr. Fauci co-authored a report on the coronavirus in the New England Journal of Medicine. The report, entitled “Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted”, was co-authored by Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., H...

www.iceagenow.info

The last time there was a "very bad flu" was 1918.

And mother fuckers still got off their asses, went to work, and sure as fuck didnt get payouts to stay home...

 

[WEATHER53]

Well well...
The case fatality rate is far, far lower than we’ve been lead to believe. Are we willing to destroy America over a bad case of the flu?

What case fatality rates have you been led to believe exist? The ones the article Fauci co-authored gives?

On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. ​

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387​

Common sense and math. Read this again -

If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2“

They didn't just figure out that there are millions of people with coronavirus that are asymptomatic.....

I guess I’m reading it wrong?
He says this is not comparable to SARS or Mers

 

[WEATHER53]

Of the deaths. Anyway to tell if virus is sole cause of death or it and stroke.and heart attack and..and

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Like the computer models, initial estimates prove false.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, co-authored an article published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza."

Dr. Fauci: Coronavirus death rate like very bad flu - WND

Straight from WingNut Daily.

Lol

The article was published by the New England Journal of Medicine.

You might try reading it. Get someone to help you.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

The interpretation you led with was from WND.

The NEJM did not say anything about fauci and his relationship with Democrats.

Stop trying to legitimize your garbage fake news sites.

No it didn't. The article says everything about the Democrats and their media-pumped numbers.

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The numbers for seasonal flu up to January 2020 have already been posted here. Those numbers even early on overwhelm the current Wuhan virus numbers.

You might want to note a couple of things.

First, that doesn't say that the death rate for COVID-19 will be the same as seasonal flu, but rather that it may be closer to the 0.1% of seasonal flu than the 10% or 36% of SARS or MERS. A pretty high death rate for such a communicable disease would still fit that criteria.

Second, they mention it might compare to the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics. In 1957, according to the CDC, 1.1 million people died worldwide, 110,000 in the US. 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC In 1968, it was 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US. 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC While that's a lot better than the millions dead in the US some have warned is possible, 100,000 people dying is a lot of dead Americans.

As of March 28, the US had 119,748 cases and 1,991 deaths.

1968 was the Stone Age in terms of medical advancement. Unlikely you'll see that number of dead here.

It was?

It was.

So far how are we treating this COVID-19 to to back then?

Most of it is fumbling around due to outdated regulations.

 

[Montrovant]

Like the computer models, initial estimates prove false.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, co-authored an article published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza."

Dr. Fauci: Coronavirus death rate like very bad flu - WND

Straight from WingNut Daily.

Lol

The article was published by the New England Journal of Medicine.

You might try reading it. Get someone to help you.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

The interpretation you led with was from WND.

The NEJM did not say anything about fauci and his relationship with Democrats.

Stop trying to legitimize your garbage fake news sites.

No it didn't. The article says everything about the Democrats and their media-pumped numbers.

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The numbers for seasonal flu up to January 2020 have already been posted here. Those numbers even early on overwhelm the current Wuhan virus numbers.

You might want to note a couple of things.

First, that doesn't say that the death rate for COVID-19 will be the same as seasonal flu, but rather that it may be closer to the 0.1% of seasonal flu than the 10% or 36% of SARS or MERS. A pretty high death rate for such a communicable disease would still fit that criteria.

Second, they mention it might compare to the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics. In 1957, according to the CDC, 1.1 million people died worldwide, 110,000 in the US. 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC In 1968, it was 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US. 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC While that's a lot better than the millions dead in the US some have warned is possible, 100,000 people dying is a lot of dead Americans.

As of March 28, the US had 119,748 cases and 1,991 deaths.

1968 was the Stone Age in terms of medical advancement. Unlikely you'll see that number of dead here.

It was?

It was.

So far how are we treating this COVID-19 to to back then?

Most of it is fumbling around due to outdated regulations.

Are those outdated regulations applicable around the world?

 

[Zander]

Common sense and math. Read this again -

What case fatality rate have you been led to believe exists? The rates in the article co-authored by Fauci?

It's a simple question relating to an assertion you've made. How come no answer?

Well well...
The case fatality rate is far, far lower than we’ve been lead to believe. Are we willing to destroy America over a bad case of the flu?

The most commonly cited number is 3.4%

 

[HappyJoy]

Like the computer models, initial estimates prove false.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, co-authored an article published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza."

Dr. Fauci: Coronavirus death rate like very bad flu - WND

Straight from WingNut Daily.

Lol

The article was published by the New England Journal of Medicine.

You might try reading it. Get someone to help you.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

The interpretation you led with was from WND.

The NEJM did not say anything about fauci and his relationship with Democrats.

Stop trying to legitimize your garbage fake news sites.

No it didn't. The article says everything about the Democrats and their media-pumped numbers.

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The numbers for seasonal flu up to January 2020 have already been posted here. Those numbers even early on overwhelm the current Wuhan virus numbers.

You might want to note a couple of things.

First, that doesn't say that the death rate for COVID-19 will be the same as seasonal flu, but rather that it may be closer to the 0.1% of seasonal flu than the 10% or 36% of SARS or MERS. A pretty high death rate for such a communicable disease would still fit that criteria.

Second, they mention it might compare to the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics. In 1957, according to the CDC, 1.1 million people died worldwide, 110,000 in the US. 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC In 1968, it was 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US. 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC While that's a lot better than the millions dead in the US some have warned is possible, 100,000 people dying is a lot of dead Americans.

As of March 28, the US had 119,748 cases and 1,991 deaths.

1968 was the Stone Age in terms of medical advancement. Unlikely you'll see that number of dead here.

It was?

It was.

So far how are we treating this COVID-19 to to back then?

Most of it is fumbling around due to outdated regulations.

Like what? It;s also not that regulations can't be lifted as they have been.

Trump has also been in office over 3 years and it's not like Trump wasn't warned in January while Trump was downplaying the virus. In fact Trump was warned in January of 2017 that this was a real issue. Also warned in 2019.

What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?

 

[cnm]

The most commonly cited number is 3.4%

I enjoy your lack of cites when you actually have a couple from Fauci. I take it you're ignoring his reported rates of one category but accept his predicted rate of another category.

 

[beautress]

Blob supporters are sad little people.

The blob said he fell in love with the NK dictator. They have zero problems with that.

Again...sad little people

Only one person here supports President Trump in a way that refers to him as a "blob." That's you, sweetie.

As for those who support him because he cares that American people are given jobs to do to earn the money they and their families stake their living on, the people of the United States of America are better off under President Trump than his predecessor. The people who know that best are those who have been blessed with the joy that their work is necessary and appreciated, giving workers a pride of sorts in the good their labor does for society as a whole. No longer do they feel they are trapped in a racial nightmare, they feel like they are real in the sense of the Velvet Rabbit. And they are real Americans, always have been and always will be.

 

[beautress]

Like the computer models, initial estimates prove false.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, co-authored an article published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza."

Dr. Fauci: Coronavirus death rate like very bad flu - WND

Straight from WingNut Daily.

Lol

The article was published by the New England Journal of Medicine.

You might try reading it. Get someone to help you.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

The interpretation you led with was from WND.

The NEJM did not say anything about fauci and his relationship with Democrats.

Stop trying to legitimize your garbage fake news sites.

No it didn't. The article says everything about the Democrats and their media-pumped numbers.

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The numbers for seasonal flu up to January 2020 have already been posted here. Those numbers even early on overwhelm the current Wuhan virus numbers.

You might want to note a couple of things.

First, that doesn't say that the death rate for COVID-19 will be the same as seasonal flu, but rather that it may be closer to the 0.1% of seasonal flu than the 10% or 36% of SARS or MERS. A pretty high death rate for such a communicable disease would still fit that criteria.

Second, they mention it might compare to the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics. In 1957, according to the CDC, 1.1 million people died worldwide, 110,000 in the US. 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC In 1968, it was 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US. 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC While that's a lot better than the millions dead in the US some have warned is possible, 100,000 people dying is a lot of dead Americans.

As of March 28, the US had 119,748 cases and 1,991 deaths.

1968 was the Stone Age in terms of medical advancement. Unlikely you'll see that number of dead here.

It was?

It was.

So far how are we treating this COVID-19 to to back then?

Most of it is fumbling around due to outdated regulations.

Like what? It;s also not that regulations can't be lifted as they have been.

Trump has also been in office over 3 years and it's not like Trump wasn't warned in January while Trump was downplaying the virus. In fact Trump was warned in January of 2017 that this was a real issue. Also warned in 2019.

What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?

Happy Joint sez: "What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?"

Thank you for asking, although I'm surprised you didn't know that Trump prepared millions of Americans to weather hard times by ensuring they had good and decent-paying employment for over 3 years of being in office. And he raised the # of Americans in high-paying jobs and lowered the # of Americans who were out of work. Should workers be required to stay at home by cdc standards, they will receive compensation for the time it takes for the weather to warm up and the coronavirus days shrink to nothing.

Gosh, I'm glad you asked that question, because Trump has already answered it by fastidious caring to help people in America help themselves. What a wonderful thing that is!!!

 

[beautress]

The Center for Disease Control has been keeping a steady eye on the numbers of corona virus-19, and we've truly had some bad news in the past week. I'll do my best to update those of you who seem unaware how many people have contracted the disease:

"Cases in the U.S."
Updated March 28, 2020
This page will be updated daily. Numbers close out at 4 p.m. the day before reporting.

COVID-19: U.S. at a Glance*†

• Total cases: 103,321
• Total deaths: 1,668
• Jurisdictions reporting cases: 54 (50 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands)

* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.
† Numbers updated Saturday and Sunday are not confirmed by state and territorial health departments. These numbers will be modified when numbers are updated on Monday.


Cases of COVID-19 Reported in the US, by Source of Exposure*†
Cases of COVID-19 Reported in the US, by Source of Exposure

Travel-related	712
Close contact	1,326
Under investigation	83,318
Total cases	85,356

* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.
† CDC is no longer reporting the number of persons under investigation (PUIs) that have been tested, as well as PUIs that have tested negative. Now that states are testing and reporting their own results, CDC’s numbers are not representative of all testing being done nationwide.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Crepitus]

I think the thread title was an inference based on democrats hating anything that could in any way not reflect badly on trump.

So, in other words, a lie.

No, it was a prediction. Likely accurate.

It was a lie. If the op had said "I predict" or "I think" that would be different. It was presented as a fact.

It was a lie. Why do you guys always lie?

 

[Crepitus]

Like the computer models, initial estimates prove false.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, co-authored an article published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza."

Dr. Fauci: Coronavirus death rate like very bad flu - WND

Straight from WingNut Daily.

Lol

The article was published by the New England Journal of Medicine.

You might try reading it. Get someone to help you.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

The interpretation you led with was from WND.

The NEJM did not say anything about fauci and his relationship with Democrats.

Stop trying to legitimize your garbage fake news sites.

No it didn't. The article says everything about the Democrats and their media-pumped numbers.

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The numbers for seasonal flu up to January 2020 have already been posted here. Those numbers even early on overwhelm the current Wuhan virus numbers.

You might want to note a couple of things.

First, that doesn't say that the death rate for COVID-19 will be the same as seasonal flu, but rather that it may be closer to the 0.1% of seasonal flu than the 10% or 36% of SARS or MERS. A pretty high death rate for such a communicable disease would still fit that criteria.

Second, they mention it might compare to the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics. In 1957, according to the CDC, 1.1 million people died worldwide, 110,000 in the US. 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC In 1968, it was 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US. 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC While that's a lot better than the millions dead in the US some have warned is possible, 100,000 people dying is a lot of dead Americans.

As of March 28, the US had 119,748 cases and 1,991 deaths.

1968 was the Stone Age in terms of medical advancement. Unlikely you'll see that number of dead here.

It was?

It was.

So far how are we treating this COVID-19 to to back then?

Most of it is fumbling around due to outdated regulations.

Like what? It;s also not that regulations can't be lifted as they have been.

Trump has also been in office over 3 years and it's not like Trump wasn't warned in January while Trump was downplaying the virus. In fact Trump was warned in January of 2017 that this was a real issue. Also warned in 2019.

What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?

Happy Joint sez: "What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?"

Thank you for asking, although I'm surprised you didn't know that Trump prepared millions of Americans to weather hard times by ensuring they had good and decent-paying employment for over 3 years of being in office. And he raised the # of Americans in high-paying jobs and lowered the # of Americans who were out of work. Should workers be required to stay at home by cdc standards, they will receive compensation for the time it takes for the weather to warm up and the coronavirus days shrink to nothing.

Gosh, I'm glad you asked that question, because Trump has already answered it by fastidious caring to help people in America help themselves. What a wonderful thing that is!!!

So basically nothing that president Obama wasn't already taking care of.

Good to know.

 

[candycorn]

Blob supporters are sad little people.

The blob said he fell in love with the NK dictator. They have zero problems with that.

Again...sad little people

Only one person here supports President Trump in a way that refers to him as a "blob." That's you, sweetie.

As for those who support him because he cares that American people are given jobs to do to earn the money they and their families stake their living on, the people of the United States of America are better off under President Trump than his predecessor. The people who know that best are those who have been blessed with the joy that their work is necessary and appreciated, giving workers a pride of sorts in the good their labor does for society as a whole. No longer do they feel they are trapped in a racial nightmare, they feel like they are real in the sense of the Velvet Rabbit. And they are real Americans, always have been and always will be.

Exhibit A ladies and gentlemen.

The blob doesn't give two shits about you. He cares even less about the nation.

 

[HappyJoy]

Like the computer models, initial estimates prove false.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, co-authored an article published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza."

Dr. Fauci: Coronavirus death rate like very bad flu - WND

Straight from WingNut Daily.

Lol

The article was published by the New England Journal of Medicine.

You might try reading it. Get someone to help you.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

The interpretation you led with was from WND.

The NEJM did not say anything about fauci and his relationship with Democrats.

Stop trying to legitimize your garbage fake news sites.

No it didn't. The article says everything about the Democrats and their media-pumped numbers.

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The numbers for seasonal flu up to January 2020 have already been posted here. Those numbers even early on overwhelm the current Wuhan virus numbers.

You might want to note a couple of things.

First, that doesn't say that the death rate for COVID-19 will be the same as seasonal flu, but rather that it may be closer to the 0.1% of seasonal flu than the 10% or 36% of SARS or MERS. A pretty high death rate for such a communicable disease would still fit that criteria.

Second, they mention it might compare to the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics. In 1957, according to the CDC, 1.1 million people died worldwide, 110,000 in the US. 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC In 1968, it was 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US. 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC While that's a lot better than the millions dead in the US some have warned is possible, 100,000 people dying is a lot of dead Americans.

As of March 28, the US had 119,748 cases and 1,991 deaths.

1968 was the Stone Age in terms of medical advancement. Unlikely you'll see that number of dead here.

It was?

It was.

So far how are we treating this COVID-19 to to back then?

Most of it is fumbling around due to outdated regulations.

Like what? It;s also not that regulations can't be lifted as they have been.

Trump has also been in office over 3 years and it's not like Trump wasn't warned in January while Trump was downplaying the virus. In fact Trump was warned in January of 2017 that this was a real issue. Also warned in 2019.

What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?

Happy Joint sez: "What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?"

Thank you for asking, although I'm surprised you didn't know that Trump prepared millions of Americans to weather hard times by ensuring they had good and decent-paying employment for over 3 years of being in office. And he raised the # of Americans in high-paying jobs and lowered the # of Americans who were out of work. Should workers be required to stay at home by cdc standards, they will receive compensation for the time it takes for the weather to warm up and the coronavirus days shrink to nothing.

Gosh, I'm glad you asked that question, because Trump has already answered it by fastidious caring to help people in America help themselves. What a wonderful thing that is!!!

So, he did nothing then. Thanks for the creative admission.

 

[HappyJoy]

Like the computer models, initial estimates prove false.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, co-authored an article published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza."

Dr. Fauci: Coronavirus death rate like very bad flu - WND

Straight from WingNut Daily.

Lol

The article was published by the New England Journal of Medicine.

You might try reading it. Get someone to help you.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

The interpretation you led with was from WND.

The NEJM did not say anything about fauci and his relationship with Democrats.

Stop trying to legitimize your garbage fake news sites.

No it didn't. The article says everything about the Democrats and their media-pumped numbers.

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The numbers for seasonal flu up to January 2020 have already been posted here. Those numbers even early on overwhelm the current Wuhan virus numbers.

You might want to note a couple of things.

First, that doesn't say that the death rate for COVID-19 will be the same as seasonal flu, but rather that it may be closer to the 0.1% of seasonal flu than the 10% or 36% of SARS or MERS. A pretty high death rate for such a communicable disease would still fit that criteria.

Second, they mention it might compare to the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics. In 1957, according to the CDC, 1.1 million people died worldwide, 110,000 in the US. 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC In 1968, it was 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US. 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC While that's a lot better than the millions dead in the US some have warned is possible, 100,000 people dying is a lot of dead Americans.

As of March 28, the US had 119,748 cases and 1,991 deaths.

1968 was the Stone Age in terms of medical advancement. Unlikely you'll see that number of dead here.

It was?

It was.

So far how are we treating this COVID-19 to to back then?

Most of it is fumbling around due to outdated regulations.

Like what? It;s also not that regulations can't be lifted as they have been.

Trump has also been in office over 3 years and it's not like Trump wasn't warned in January while Trump was downplaying the virus. In fact Trump was warned in January of 2017 that this was a real issue. Also warned in 2019.

What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?

Happy Joint sez: "What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?"

Thank you for asking, although I'm surprised you didn't know that Trump prepared millions of Americans to weather hard times by ensuring they had good and decent-paying employment for over 3 years of being in office. And he raised the # of Americans in high-paying jobs and lowered the # of Americans who were out of work. Should workers be required to stay at home by cdc standards, they will receive compensation for the time it takes for the weather to warm up and the coronavirus days shrink to nothing.

Gosh, I'm glad you asked that question, because Trump has already answered it by fastidious caring to help people in America help themselves. What a wonderful thing that is!!!

So basically nothing that president Obama wasn't already taking care of.

Good to know.

You got to admit, in the face of this pandemic when presented with evidence that on multiple occasions Trump did nothing to prepare this country for a pandemic in 3 years this beautress came up with the most knob gobbling Trump excuse ever.

 

[San Souci]

Like the computer models, initial estimates prove false.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, co-authored an article published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine predicting the fatality rate for the coronavirus will turn out to be like that of a "severe seasonal influenza."

Dr. Fauci: Coronavirus death rate like very bad flu - WND

Straight from WingNut Daily.

Lol

The article was published by the New England Journal of Medicine.

You might try reading it. Get someone to help you.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

The interpretation you led with was from WND.

The NEJM did not say anything about fauci and his relationship with Democrats.

Stop trying to legitimize your garbage fake news sites.

No it didn't. The article says everything about the Democrats and their media-pumped numbers.

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The numbers for seasonal flu up to January 2020 have already been posted here. Those numbers even early on overwhelm the current Wuhan virus numbers.

You might want to note a couple of things.

First, that doesn't say that the death rate for COVID-19 will be the same as seasonal flu, but rather that it may be closer to the 0.1% of seasonal flu than the 10% or 36% of SARS or MERS. A pretty high death rate for such a communicable disease would still fit that criteria.

Second, they mention it might compare to the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics. In 1957, according to the CDC, 1.1 million people died worldwide, 110,000 in the US. 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC In 1968, it was 1 million worldwide and 100,000 in the US. 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC While that's a lot better than the millions dead in the US some have warned is possible, 100,000 people dying is a lot of dead Americans.

As of March 28, the US had 119,748 cases and 1,991 deaths.

1968 was the Stone Age in terms of medical advancement. Unlikely you'll see that number of dead here.

It was?

It was.

So far how are we treating this COVID-19 to to back then?

Most of it is fumbling around due to outdated regulations.

Like what? It;s also not that regulations can't be lifted as they have been.

Trump has also been in office over 3 years and it's not like Trump wasn't warned in January while Trump was downplaying the virus. In fact Trump was warned in January of 2017 that this was a real issue. Also warned in 2019.

What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?

Happy Joint sez: "What did Trump do in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to prepare for a pandemic?"

Thank you for asking, although I'm surprised you didn't know that Trump prepared millions of Americans to weather hard times by ensuring they had good and decent-paying employment for over 3 years of being in office. And he raised the # of Americans in high-paying jobs and lowered the # of Americans who were out of work. Should workers be required to stay at home by cdc standards, they will receive compensation for the time it takes for the weather to warm up and the coronavirus days shrink to nothing.

Gosh, I'm glad you asked that question, because Trump has already answered it by fastidious caring to help people in America help themselves. What a wonderful thing that is!!!

So basically nothing that president Obama wasn't already taking care of.

Good to know.

Only thing Obama did was apologize for being American.(if he really was)

 

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The flu kills a lot of people folks. And there are shots you can take not to get it. Let me know when you can get your COVID-19 shot.

 

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Well well...
The case fatality rate is far, far lower than we’ve been lead to believe. Are we willing to destroy America over a bad case of the flu?

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On Thursday Dr. Fauci co-authored a report on the coronavirus in the New England Journal of Medicine.

The report, entitled “Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted”, was co-authored by Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., H. Clifford Lane, M.D., and Robert R. Redfield, M.D.

Here’s a direct quote from that report:

“If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2“

Dr. Fauci Concedes the Coronavirus Mortality Rate May Be Much Closer to a Very Bad Flu - Ice Age Now

The case fatality rate is far, far lower than we’ve been lead to believe. ____________ On Thursday Dr. Fauci co-authored a report on the coronavirus in the New England Journal of Medicine. The report, entitled “Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted”, was co-authored by Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., H...

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The last time there was a "very bad flu" was 1918.

And mother fuckers still got off their asses, went to work, and sure as fuck didnt get payouts to stay home...

I don't think you were around to see what actually happened at that time. What we do know is many a motherfucker died.