Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant ( Michigan)

America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

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regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.


more evidence of brain dead conservatism.


10 years ago wind turbines were less effective than today

in 10 more years they will be even better

10 years after that they will be even better......

technology improves.......haven't you noticed?

at some point alternative methods of power will replace coal and oil completely.....

unless you find a way to prevent it.
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
Coal is an outmoded form of energy production

Anything is better
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
Coal is an outmoded form of energy production

Anything is better

Solar power is better at night?
 
If you drive to Las Vegas coming from California this will be on your left. It’s a massive and very impressive to look at these solar panels. It provides electricity to LV and nearby communities.

This Huge New Solar Farm Near Las Vegas Provides Power—Even At Night

Solar power keeps getting cheaper, but there’s a reason why utilities still turn to fossil fuels: it’s expensive to store solar energy for use at night or on a cloudy day, times when solar doesn’t work. But a massive new solar plant, sprawling over 1,670 acres near Las Vegas, was designed to solve that problem. It provides energy on demand, even when it’s dark.
There nothing wrong with solar, in Some areas is it just is not a viable option.
Cold turkey solves nothing, fossil fuels are here to stay... an all of the above is the winning strategy
We`re producing more fossil fuels? That`s the only way that fossil fuels are here to stay.
Lol
Nature is, More being made every day
There is a coal factory and an oil manufacturer somewhere. Got it. Damn, you`re stupid. There are several natural gas fracking wells near me but I only see them extracting. Are there little people underground making natural gas? I`ll say it again. Damn, you`re stupid.
 
If you drive to Las Vegas coming from California this will be on your left. It’s a massive and very impressive to look at these solar panels. It provides electricity to LV and nearby communities.

This Huge New Solar Farm Near Las Vegas Provides Power—Even At Night

Solar power keeps getting cheaper, but there’s a reason why utilities still turn to fossil fuels: it’s expensive to store solar energy for use at night or on a cloudy day, times when solar doesn’t work. But a massive new solar plant, sprawling over 1,670 acres near Las Vegas, was designed to solve that problem. It provides energy on demand, even when it’s dark.
There nothing wrong with solar, in Some areas is it just is not a viable option.
Cold turkey solves nothing, fossil fuels are here to stay... an all of the above is the winning strategy
We`re producing more fossil fuels? That`s the only way that fossil fuels are here to stay.
Lol
Nature is, More being made every day
There is a coal factory and an oil manufacturer somewhere. Got it. Damn, you`re stupid. There are several natural gas fracking wells near me but I only see them extracting. Are there little people underground making natural gas? I`ll say it again. Damn, you`re stupid.
Lol
You do realize they are finding more reserves every single day… Dumbass
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
Coal is an outmoded form of energy production

Anything is better

Solar power is better at night?

oh my god....

you just posted proof of how stupid you are!


1. STORE power collected during the day in storage batteries.

2. we live on a more or less round planet. it is only NIGHT on half the planet at any one time. the sun shines ALL the time on 1/2 the planet.
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
Coal is an outmoded form of energy production

Anything is better

Solar power is better at night?

oh my god....

you just posted proof of how stupid you are!


1. STORE power collected during the day in storage batteries.

2. we live on a more or less round planet. it is only NIGHT on half the planet at any one time. the sun shines ALL the time on 1/2 the planet.
You mean toxic batteries... Oh the hypocrisy. Lol
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
Coal is an outmoded form of energy production

Anything is better

Solar power is better at night?

oh my god....

you just posted proof of how stupid you are!


1. STORE power collected during the day in storage batteries.

2. we live on a more or less round planet. it is only NIGHT on half the planet at any one time. the sun shines ALL the time on 1/2 the planet.

Storage of grid magnitude is beyond out battery technology, and the land required for a form of water/liquid potential energy storage is probably worse for the environment than coal burning.

The ability to transmit power from one side of the planet to the other using current line technology is not feasible due to inherent losses, even at high voltages.

Try again, dipshit, and know you are going against someone with a Masters in Chemical Engineering?

What soy based social justice degree do you have?
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
Coal is an outmoded form of energy production

Anything is better

Solar power is better at night?

oh my god....

you just posted proof of how stupid you are!


1. STORE power collected during the day in storage batteries.

2. we live on a more or less round planet. it is only NIGHT on half the planet at any one time. the sun shines ALL the time on 1/2 the planet.
You mean toxic batteries... Oh the hypocrisy. Lol

Current battery technology simply can't scale to a grid level without taking up massive resources and land.

To me a potential energy storage setup, such as using lakes at different elevations is more feasible, but again you have the land use required for this if it is to be used on a grid-scale.
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
Coal is an outmoded form of energy production

Anything is better
So are windmills, dumbass. they're 2000 years old
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
Coal is an outmoded form of energy production

Anything is better
So are windmills, dumbass. they're 2000 years old

Amusing how our zero college pouting kids can't resist a stupid insult.
Dead giveaway for zero Ed.
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
Coal is an outmoded form of energy production

Anything is better
So are windmills, dumbass. they're 2000 years old

Amusing how our zero college pouting kids can't resist a stupid insult.
Dead giveaway for zero Ed.
You've tried this line of attack before. It went down in flames.
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
Coal is an outmoded form of energy production

Anything is better
So are windmills, dumbass. they're 2000 years old

Amusing how our zero college pouting kids can't resist a stupid insult.
Dead giveaway for zero Ed.
You've tried this line of attack before. It went down in flames.
The required kindergarten insult?
Ah the truth hurts.
Ever been to Germany?
 
Then use natural gas.
We should be aiming to replace natural gas use.
Na, not really
It’s unlimited basically in this country… And extremely cheap. Up here in north western South Dakota I heated both my shop and my house for the whole winter last year for just under 600 bucks with natural gas.

I disagree.
First of all, natural gas is only cheap now because of new fracking techniques that actually work way too well and leak almost half the natural gas to the environment.
Second is that natural gas is in much smaller supply than oil in this country, and we only have a couple decades worth left.
What we do have hundreds of years worth is coal, not natural gas or oil.

end-of-fossil-fuels-graph.jpg


Even this graph is not quite accurate because coal is almost everywhere.
While natural gas requires not just the ancient 100 million year old swamp to start with, but also the salt dome to collect it.
And the graph shows a faster decline in coal than one would expect, but that is due to the reality that coal is now and will likely always remain the main source of electrical energy production.
Your graph is pure crap. We have been being told how we were going to run out of everything in 25 years since the 1970's. Companies only hunt for future supplies until they have 25 years worth secured.

You gave away the game when you said that fracking "worked way too well". We've got your number. You are one of the degrowther nuts that works to arrange scarcity, in order to produce misery, thinking that you can steer human misery toward your bitter partisan means.

On this side, we simply leave these things up to folks own choices.

UNLESS THE DEMOCRATS GET THEIR WAY: Oil And Gas Development To Boost Front Range Property Tax Revenue By Up To $2 Billion In Coming Decade.
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
I smell bullshit.
Let's just fact check one data point:

Only the coal powered genrators are scheduled for retirement by 2031. Their capacity is 544 MW. List of power stations in Michigan - Wikipedia

So, the entire article is a pile of shit. Which I immediately figured, given the source.
 
Then use natural gas.
We should be aiming to replace natural gas use.
Na, not really
It’s unlimited basically in this country… And extremely cheap. Up here in north western South Dakota I heated both my shop and my house for the whole winter last year for just under 600 bucks with natural gas.

I disagree.
First of all, natural gas is only cheap now because of new fracking techniques that actually work way too well and leak almost half the natural gas to the environment.
Second is that natural gas is in much smaller supply than oil in this country, and we only have a couple decades worth left.
What we do have hundreds of years worth is coal, not natural gas or oil.

end-of-fossil-fuels-graph.jpg


Even this graph is not quite accurate because coal is almost everywhere.
While natural gas requires not just the ancient 100 million year old swamp to start with, but also the salt dome to collect it.
And the graph shows a faster decline in coal than one would expect, but that is due to the reality that coal is now and will likely always remain the main source of electrical energy production.
Your graph is pure crap. We have been being told how we were going to run out of everything in 25 years since the 1970's. Companies only hunt for future supplies until they have 25 years worth secured.

You gave away the game when you said that fracking "worked way too well". We've got your number. You are one of the degrowther nuts that works to arrange scarcity, in order to produce misery, thinking that you can steer human misery toward your bitter partisan means.

On this side, we simply leave these things up to folks own choices.

UNLESS THE DEMOCRATS GET THEIR WAY: Oil And Gas Development To Boost Front Range Property Tax Revenue By Up To $2 Billion In Coming Decade.
Western Wire?
I thought gateway pundit was our rube required reading?
As Ayles said "we are not supposed to report news, just support what our readers believe"
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
That's why I like solar farms. Way better than wind turbines or coal.

Topaz Solar Farm - Wikipedia

Topaz Solar Farm is a 550 megawatt (MWAC) photovoltaic power station in San Luis Obispo County, California.
 
America has slightly over 400 coal plants. That means it would take about 800,000 wind turbines to replace all of our coal fire power plants. Just imagine how many birds they would slaughter every year. And they still require 100% backup!

Doubling State’s 1,100 Wind Turbines Won’t Replace This One Coal/Gas Plant

Michigan’s electric utilities gamble that the reliability of service won’t collapse.

Consumers Energy would have to double the number of wind turbines currently operating in this state to replace the electricity produced by just one of the coal- and gas-fired power plants it intends to close as part of its plans to rely more on renewable sources. The problem, however, is that those additional turbines only spin about one-third of the time, leaving a big energy gap for the households and businesses that rely on the company for their electricity.

..

regulated utilities and their vendors operate 1,107 industrial wind turbines in Michigan. These can produce 1,925.3 megawatts of electricity, but only when the wind is blowing.
I smell bullshit.
Let's just fact check one data point:

Only the coal powered genrators are scheduled for retirement by 2031. Their capacity is 544 MW. List of power stations in Michigan - Wikipedia

So, the entire article is a pile of shit. Which I immediately figured, given the source.
You have a math problem:

Michigan had a total summer capacity of 29,831 MW through all of its power plants

As of 2017, 37% of that is from coal 29,831 X 0.37 = 11,037 mw.​
 

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