Double, Double, Toil and Trouble....

[PoliticalChic]

While the French Revolution was the catalytic converter of Western Civilization, an attempt to erase all signs of the faith that built said civilization, the three witches in this 'play' are Marx, Darwin.....and the man whose birthday is this date.

Sigmund Freud
AUSTRIAN PSYCHOANALYST
BORNMay 6, 1856
Pribor, Czechoslovakia
(Birthday tomorrow)
DIEDSeptember 23, 1939 (aged 83)
London, England
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We began a journey following the paths of Moses and Jesus, and then, at some point had taken the wrong fork in the road, this one following the three witches, Freud, Marx and Darwin.




1.When Albert Camus wrote “The Rebel,” he put his finger on an aspect of human nature that most of us have, more so as youth, but, still, throughout our lives. We yearn to stand out, to be different, …we see it when the prettiest girl runs off with the ‘bad boy,’ or when the wild haired radical is the one everyone is talking about. True, family, and the desire for success often smooths the edges off, moderates how ‘different’ one chooses to be, and sometimes, later on, when we’ve given up most of that rebellion, we might come to resent those who actually carry it off…..but in our youth, we have it.

It’s all about the degree and desire to rebel.


2. Freud claimed he could document and explain that need to rebel, relating it to a biological phenomenon…. “The Rebel Instinct: How Each Generation's Need To Out-Rebel The Previous Generation Is Pushing Society To Wild Extremes” The Rebel Instinct: How Each Generation's Need To Out-Rebel The Previous Generation Is Pushing Society To Wild Extremes

But whether it is psychological or biological…….it appears, most significantly, to be political.


3. A tip of the hat to Freud: there is no disputing the desire to stop taking orders from parents. OK. But it grows, in many, to the desire to not have to show respect, take orders from, or to mirror the style and tradition of an older, more successful generation. Perhaps the claim that socialists/communists are all about greed, to take from the successful without the work that went into that success...’You didn’t build that!’ …isn’t just to get the material things…
........it’s the psychological reward of rebellion.


While Judeo-Christian values combined individual worth with reason and free will, Sigmund Freud denied free will, and posited a life of forced actions and neurosis based on childhood events.

 

[midcan5]

PC, I gotta hand it to you, you are the most prolific finger pointerer on usmb and maybe the internet? Positivity be gone for there must be a foe, someone to point at and blame? Today Freud, tomorrow? Who knows? Does it matter? Surely not. Mirror mirror on the wall.... You should outline your favorites, Joe McCarthy would be an example, but I'm sure there are many in history. Oh, and have a good day if that is possible in your world.

"So here I come to thee
Against my will; and surely do I trow
Thou dost not wish to see me. Still 'tis true
That no man loves the messenger of ill."

Antigone

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC, I gotta hand it to you, you are the most prolific finger pointerer on usmb and maybe the internet? Positivity be gone for there must be a foe, someone to point at and blame? Today Freud, tomorrow? Who knows? Does it matter? Surely not. Mirror mirror on the wall.... You should outline your favorites, Joe McCarthy would be an example, but I'm sure there are many in history. Oh, and have a good day if that is possible in your world.

"So here I come to thee
Against my will; and surely do I trow
Thou dost not wish to see me. Still 'tis true
That no man loves the messenger of ill."

Antigone

Ausonius explained why you so hate how I expose Leftism in all of it's iterations.

“Truth is the mother of hatred.”

― Decimus Magnus Ausonius




It appears that there was nothing in any of my posts that you can deny.


That should give you pause.

 

[bluzman61]

While the French Revolution was the catalytic converter of Western Civilization, an attempt to erase all signs of the faith that built said civilization, the three witches in this 'play' are Marx, Darwin.....and the man whose birthday is this date.

View attachment 332666
Sigmund Freud
AUSTRIAN PSYCHOANALYST
BORNMay 6, 1856
Pribor, Czechoslovakia
(Birthday tomorrow)
DIEDSeptember 23, 1939 (aged 83)
London, England

We began a journey following the paths of Moses and Jesus, and then, at some point had taken the wrong fork in the road, this one following the three witches, Freud, Marx and Darwin.




1.When Albert Camus wrote “The Rebel,” he put his finger on an aspect of human nature that most of us have, more so as youth, but, still, throughout our lives. We yearn to stand out, to be different, …we see it when the prettiest girl runs off with the ‘bad boy,’ or when the wild haired radical is the one everyone is talking about. True, family, and the desire for success often smooths the edges off, moderates how ‘different’ one chooses to be, and sometimes, later on, when we’ve given up most of that rebellion, we might come to resent those who actually carry it off…..but in our youth, we have it.

It’s all about the degree and desire to rebel.


2. Freud claimed he could document and explain that need to rebel, relating it to a biological phenomenon…. “The Rebel Instinct: How Each Generation's Need To Out-Rebel The Previous Generation Is Pushing Society To Wild Extremes” The Rebel Instinct: How Each Generation's Need To Out-Rebel The Previous Generation Is Pushing Society To Wild Extremes

But whether it is psychological or biological…….it appears, most significantly, to be political.


3. A tip of the hat to Freud: there is no disputing the desire to stop taking orders from parents. OK. But it grows, in many, to the desire to not have to show respect, take orders from, or to mirror the style and tradition of an older, more successful generation. Perhaps the claim that socialists/communists are all about greed, to take from the successful without the work that went into that success...’You didn’t build that!’ …isn’t just to get the material things…
........it’s the psychological reward of rebellion.


While Judeo-Christian values combined individual worth with reason and free will, Sigmund Freud denied free will, and posited a life of forced actions and neurosis based on childhood events.

Nice post, PC, thanks.

 

[bluzman61]

PC, I gotta hand it to you, you are the most prolific finger pointerer on usmb and maybe the internet? Positivity be gone for there must be a foe, someone to point at and blame? Today Freud, tomorrow? Who knows? Does it matter? Surely not. Mirror mirror on the wall.... You should outline your favorites, Joe McCarthy would be an example, but I'm sure there are many in history. Oh, and have a good day if that is possible in your world.

"So here I come to thee
Against my will; and surely do I trow
Thou dost not wish to see me. Still 'tis true
That no man loves the messenger of ill."

Antigone

Ausonius explained why you so hate how I expose Leftism in all of it's iterations.

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“Truth is the mother of hatred.”

― Decimus Magnus Ausonius




It appears that there was nothing in any of my posts that you can deny.


That should give you pause.

Wonderful reply!

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

PC, I gotta hand it to you, you are the most prolific finger pointerer on usmb and maybe the internet? Positivity be gone for there must be a foe, someone to point at and blame? Today Freud, tomorrow? Who knows? Does it matter? Surely not. Mirror mirror on the wall.... You should outline your favorites, Joe McCarthy would be an example, but I'm sure there are many in history. Oh, and have a good day if that is possible in your world.

"So here I come to thee
Against my will; and surely do I trow
Thou dost not wish to see me. Still 'tis true
That no man loves the messenger of ill."

Antigone

If i am not mistaken Joe McCarthy was trying to find the Communists/Socialists that were in Hollyweird, and guess what....Today we have Communists/Socialist right here in our Unites States....Fuck off and die you worthless retard...

Joseph McCarthy - Wikipedia

Joseph McCarthy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Joseph Raymond McCarthy (November 14, 1908 – May 2, 1957) was an American politician who served as a Republican U.S. Senator from the state of Wisconsin from 1947 until his death in 1957. Beginning in 1950, McCarthy became the most visible public face of a period in the United States in which Cold War tensions fueled fears of widespread communist subversion.

I swore an oath to defend this country and Constitution against the evils of Socialism as many others have. Keep pushing for it, you might not like what you find....

 

[PoliticalChic]

While the French Revolution was the catalytic converter of Western Civilization, an attempt to erase all signs of the faith that built said civilization, the three witches in this 'play' are Marx, Darwin.....and the man whose birthday is this date.

View attachment 332666
Sigmund Freud
AUSTRIAN PSYCHOANALYST
BORNMay 6, 1856
Pribor, Czechoslovakia
(Birthday tomorrow)
DIEDSeptember 23, 1939 (aged 83)
London, England

We began a journey following the paths of Moses and Jesus, and then, at some point had taken the wrong fork in the road, this one following the three witches, Freud, Marx and Darwin.




1.When Albert Camus wrote “The Rebel,” he put his finger on an aspect of human nature that most of us have, more so as youth, but, still, throughout our lives. We yearn to stand out, to be different, …we see it when the prettiest girl runs off with the ‘bad boy,’ or when the wild haired radical is the one everyone is talking about. True, family, and the desire for success often smooths the edges off, moderates how ‘different’ one chooses to be, and sometimes, later on, when we’ve given up most of that rebellion, we might come to resent those who actually carry it off…..but in our youth, we have it.

It’s all about the degree and desire to rebel.


2. Freud claimed he could document and explain that need to rebel, relating it to a biological phenomenon…. “The Rebel Instinct: How Each Generation's Need To Out-Rebel The Previous Generation Is Pushing Society To Wild Extremes” The Rebel Instinct: How Each Generation's Need To Out-Rebel The Previous Generation Is Pushing Society To Wild Extremes

But whether it is psychological or biological…….it appears, most significantly, to be political.


3. A tip of the hat to Freud: there is no disputing the desire to stop taking orders from parents. OK. But it grows, in many, to the desire to not have to show respect, take orders from, or to mirror the style and tradition of an older, more successful generation. Perhaps the claim that socialists/communists are all about greed, to take from the successful without the work that went into that success...’You didn’t build that!’ …isn’t just to get the material things…
........it’s the psychological reward of rebellion.


While Judeo-Christian values combined individual worth with reason and free will, Sigmund Freud denied free will, and posited a life of forced actions and neurosis based on childhood events.

Nice post, PC, thanks.

Thank you!

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC, I gotta hand it to you, you are the most prolific finger pointerer on usmb and maybe the internet? Positivity be gone for there must be a foe, someone to point at and blame? Today Freud, tomorrow? Who knows? Does it matter? Surely not. Mirror mirror on the wall.... You should outline your favorites, Joe McCarthy would be an example, but I'm sure there are many in history. Oh, and have a good day if that is possible in your world.

"So here I come to thee
Against my will; and surely do I trow
Thou dost not wish to see me. Still 'tis true
That no man loves the messenger of ill."

Antigone

If i am not mistaken Joe McCarthy was trying to find the Communists/Socialists that were in Hollyweird, and guess what....Today we have Communists/Socialist right here in our Unites States....Fuck off and die you worthless retard...

Joseph McCarthy - Wikipedia

Joseph McCarthy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

View attachment 332678
Joseph Raymond McCarthy (November 14, 1908 – May 2, 1957) was an American politician who served as a Republican U.S. Senator from the state of Wisconsin from 1947 until his death in 1957. Beginning in 1950, McCarthy became the most visible public face of a period in the United States in which Cold War tensions fueled fears of widespread communist subversion.

I swore an oath to defend this country and Constitution against the evils of Socialism as many others have. Keep pushing for it, you might not like what you find....

Senator Joseph McCarthy was a true American hero.....but he only exposed communists in government.


Senator Joe McCarthy confronted government officials concealing communist involvement and excessively lax security with regards to Communists in sensitive U.S. Government posts. In many cases he was on target, with over 81 of the names he gave the Tydings committee resulting in resignations or movement of security risks. Given that over 200 of the spies uncovered in the Venona decrypts were never identified, we can only speculate as to the national security impact of removing Communists from key DoD and State Dept posts.

Arthur Herman, author of "Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator," says that the accuracy of McCarthy's charges "was no longer a matter of debate," that they are "now accepted as fact." And The New York Post's Eric Fettmann has noted: "growing historical evidence underscores that, whatever his rhetorical and investigative excesses - and they were substantial - McCarthy was a lot closer to the truth about Communism than were his foes."


He did this in spite of the popularity of FDR, the President who, when appraised of a Soviet spy in his administration......Roosevelt promoted him!

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC, I gotta hand it to you, you are the most prolific finger pointerer on usmb and maybe the internet? Positivity be gone for there must be a foe, someone to point at and blame? Today Freud, tomorrow? Who knows? Does it matter? Surely not. Mirror mirror on the wall.... You should outline your favorites, Joe McCarthy would be an example, but I'm sure there are many in history. Oh, and have a good day if that is possible in your world.

"So here I come to thee
Against my will; and surely do I trow
Thou dost not wish to see me. Still 'tis true
That no man loves the messenger of ill."

Antigone

If i am not mistaken Joe McCarthy was trying to find the Communists/Socialists that were in Hollyweird, and guess what....Today we have Communists/Socialist right here in our Unites States....Fuck off and die you worthless retard...

Joseph McCarthy - Wikipedia

Joseph McCarthy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

View attachment 332678
Joseph Raymond McCarthy (November 14, 1908 – May 2, 1957) was an American politician who served as a Republican U.S. Senator from the state of Wisconsin from 1947 until his death in 1957. Beginning in 1950, McCarthy became the most visible public face of a period in the United States in which Cold War tensions fueled fears of widespread communist subversion.

I swore an oath to defend this country and Constitution against the evils of Socialism as many others have. Keep pushing for it, you might not like what you find....

Have you noticed that when the government school grads repeat the talking point about McCarthy ruining innocent lives......they can never point to any?

 

[PoliticalChic]

4. If one doubts that Leftism is a religion, consider this: the Judeo-Christian brand attributes man’s creation to God. The totalists claim to be able to do the same thing: the claim to be able to create new men, in their image.


While free will and the intelligence on which to base it are the gifts God built into mankind, Communism worships a very different god, ….excuse my usurping the title the Democrats gave to Hussein….their god is the state which can transform human nature.

“The New Soviet man or New Soviet person (Russian: новый советский человек), as postulated by the ideologists of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, was an archetype of a person with certain qualities that were said to be emerging as dominant among all citizens of the Soviet Union, irrespective of the country's long-standing cultural, ethnic, and linguistic diversity, creating a single Soviet people, Soviet nation.[1]

New Soviet man - Wikipedia

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Leon Trotsky wrote in his Literature and Revolution [2] :
"The human species, the sluggish Homo sapiens, will once again enter the stage of radical reconstruction and become in his own hands the object of the most complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training... Man will make it his goal...to create a higher sociobiological type, a superman, if you will"
New Soviet man - Wikipedia




The birth of "The New Soviet Man" was the stated aim of Marxism, breeding a new evolutionary form of human being who will think, look, and act differently. Then was the Nazi attempt to do exactly the same thing: in German, "We must create a new man! A new life form should appear!"
"In both systems we have the ideology of creating a new man. Both systems don't agree with human nature as it is...they are at war with human nature. Both are based on false biology, and false sociology."
Françoise Thom, professor of Soviet history, Sorbonne, Paris

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. Darwin was essential to communism's atheism, providing a possible explanation for the diversity of life, and Freud provided a mental structure that could be altered by government.

Mao, the same claim to creation of a new man….and not in a peaceful manner.

“Phrases like “rebellion against authority,” “revolution in education,” “destroying an old world so a new one could be born,” and “creating new man”—all of which attracted many in the West…—were interpreted as calls for violent action. Mao understood the latent violence of the young, and said that since they were well fed and had had their lessons stopped, they could easily be stirred up and use their boundless energy to go out and wreak havoc.” Chang, “Wild Swans”

To create a new human nature, they must deny and destroy the old.

"He exploded: "You Capitalists always talk about 'human nature;' but there is no such thing. Human beings are what you make them. Capitalism makes them acquisitive, selfish; it inevitably produces clashes and WAR. Communism makes persons selfless, with concern not for themselves as individuals, but for the whole society-the masses. Thus, Communism won't lead to clashes-and the whole world at last will have PEACE!" The Schwarz Report | Essays

Straight out of Rousseau!


In October 1919, Lenin paid a secret visit to the laboratory of the great physiologist I. P. Pavlov, a Russian physiologist known chiefly for the concept of the conditioned reflex. In his classic experiment, he found that a hungry dog can be trained to associate the sound of a bell with food and will salivate at the sound even in the absence of food. Lenin wanted to find out if his work on the conditional reflexes of the brain might help the Bolsheviks control European behaviour. “I want the masses of Russia to follow a Communistic pattern of thinking and reacting,” Lenin explained. Pavlov was astounded. It seemed that Lenin wanted him to do for humans what he had already done for dogs. “Do you mean that you would like to standardise the population of Russia? Make them all behave in the same way?” he asked. “Exactly” replied Lenin. “Man can be corrected. Man can be made what we want him to be.”… Orlando Figes, "A People's Tragedy," p.732-733


Progressives have a similar view: human nature is plastic; politics is a means of perfecting man!
In 1969, Hillary Rodham gave the student commencement address at Wellesley in which she said that “ for too long our leaders have used politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible….We’re not interested in social reconstruction; it’s human reconstruction.”
-http://www.wellesley.edu/PublicAffairs/Commencement/1969/053169hillary.html



To accept the communist/socialist doctrines, you must believe that greed, jealousy, envy and personal benefit can be beaten or legislated out of existence.

Do you?

 

[alang1216]

Ausonius explained why you so hate how I expose Leftism in all of it's iterations.

Personally, I admire the way you define anything you feel is bad as being "Leftist". Anyone able to cast characters as different as Stalin and Hitler as leftists is a talent. I'm not sure way Freud is in the mix but since you like to politicize science (e.g., Darwin) I'm not very surprised.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ausonius explained why you so hate how I expose Leftism in all of it's iterations.

Personally, I admire the way you define anything you feel is bad as being "Leftist". Anyone able to cast characters as different as Stalin and Hitler as leftists is a talent. I'm not sure way Freud is in the mix but since you like to politicize science (e.g., Darwin) I'm not very surprised.

Wait.....you don't know that Stalin and Hitler were both allies and both Leftists???

How dumb can you be????


Don't you know that Hitler's party was the national SOCIALIST party????


Here's the education you missed in government school:

http://www.livingscoop.com/watch.php?v=MjQwMQ==

http://www.livingscoop.com/watch.php?v=MjQwMQ==






"The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.

"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems." Telling the Soviet story



A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.(Article provided in the film)

Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika. (18:30)

a. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

b. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists." Vladimir Bukovsky.

The film goes on to show a series of Nazi and Russian propaganda posters....except for the language, almost identical.




The depth of your ignorance is truly amazing.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Ausonius explained why you so hate how I expose Leftism in all of it's iterations.

Personally, I admire the way you define anything you feel is bad as being "Leftist". Anyone able to cast characters as different as Stalin and Hitler as leftists is a talent. I'm not sure way Freud is in the mix but since you like to politicize science (e.g., Darwin) I'm not very surprised.

Darwin was a dweeb, with many errors in his evolution theory.(notice theory - a science that is given but not proven). Each layer of the crust we find more and more evidence of difference in the way man evolved and some today think, that Neanderthals still have their linage, when people like Darwin thought they went extinct. I know the Neanderthals are still around and in the Democrat party.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ausonius explained why you so hate how I expose Leftism in all of it's iterations.

Personally, I admire the way you define anything you feel is bad as being "Leftist". Anyone able to cast characters as different as Stalin and Hitler as leftists is a talent. I'm not sure way Freud is in the mix but since you like to politicize science (e.g., Darwin) I'm not very surprised.

Darwin was a dweeb, with many errors in his evolution theory.(notice theory - a science that is given but not proven). Each layer of the crust we find more and more evidence of difference in the way man evolved and some today think, that Neanderthals still have their linage, when people like Darwin thought they went extinct. I know the Neanderthals are still around and in the Democrat party.

Tell 'em, bro!

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Damn PC I've always kinda' liked Siggy. He tends to drive the progressives into regression when I start examining their Id and aspects of their ego.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[alang1216]

Personally, I admire the way you define anything you feel is bad as being "Leftist". Anyone able to cast characters as different as Stalin and Hitler as leftists is a talent. I'm not sure way Freud is in the mix but since you like to politicize science (e.g., Darwin) I'm not very surprised.

Wait.....you don't know that Stalin and Hitler were both allies and both Leftists???

How dumb can you be????

Don't you know that Hitler's party was the national SOCIALIST party????

The depth of your ignorance is truly amazing.

Hitler and Stalin had a pact on paper and then invaded each others countries. Is that your criteria, what the paper says trumps what actually happened? Got it.

Hitler was an ultra-nationalist, hardly the mark of the Left.

Using your logic, I must assume you think that North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, must be a democracy. You should come down from your ivy tower and join us in the real world.

 

[PoliticalChic]

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Damn PC I've always kinda' liked Siggy. He tends to drive the progressives into regression when I start examining their Id and aspects of their ego.

*****CHUCKLE*****

Even poisons have their use......Botulinum injections.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Personally, I admire the way you define anything you feel is bad as being "Leftist". Anyone able to cast characters as different as Stalin and Hitler as leftists is a talent. I'm not sure way Freud is in the mix but since you like to politicize science (e.g., Darwin) I'm not very surprised.

Wait.....you don't know that Stalin and Hitler were both allies and both Leftists???

How dumb can you be????

Don't you know that Hitler's party was the national SOCIALIST party????

The depth of your ignorance is truly amazing.

Hitler and Stalin had a pact on paper and then invaded each others countries. Is that your criteria, what the paper says trumps what actually happened? Got it.

Hitler was an ultra-nationalist, hardly the mark of the Left.

Using your logic, I must assume you think that North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, must be a democracy. You should come down from your ivy tower and join us in the real world.

I never said could cure you of being an idiot, I simply provide the facts and allow those with your educational septicity to prattle on.


Until June 22, 1941, they were allies, with Stalin providing the resources for Hitler's Blitzkrieg.


Don't forget......never read a book!!!

 

[alang1216]

Darwin was a dweeb, with many errors in his evolution theory.(notice theory - a science that is given but not proven). Each layer of the crust we find more and more evidence of difference in the way man evolved and some today think, that Neanderthals still have their linage, when people like Darwin thought they went extinct. I know the Neanderthals are still around and in the Democrat party.

Darwin made an enormous contribution to science. The fact that later generations added depth and nuance to his theories (which you define incorrectly) does not take anything away from his accomplishments.

I see you, like PC, can't separate science from politics. No wonder you two are so poor at both.