Don't Forget, April is Confederate History and Heritage Month

[WinterBorn]

Umm....my understanding of American history is fine. I was not saying that blacks are 3/5 of a human. Steve McGarrett is the one who made that claim. I said "...everyone would be so ignorant as to think all blacks were only 3/5 human". And by so doing I was calling those who believe that ignorant.

And while we are discussing the topic, you might also be aware that the 3/5 was not about blacks, but about slaves. Free blacks counted as a whole person.

So don't bother correcting me, since I am actually speaking the truth. Concentrate on the racist morons who try and claim that blacks are only 3/5 human.

Oh I get it. You're arguing against a straw man. Well, you knocked the invisible straw man down. Now what?

No, I am mocking ignorance. Now that the ignorance is mocked? Hopefully no one thinks blacks are 3/5 of a human in the eyes of our gov't, and knows that they never were.

How could anyone make such an error? Who made such a claim?

"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons"

Steve McGarrett made that exact claim in the thread about USMB becoming a mirror site for the Klan (and it was not the first time he made this claim). I am reminding him of his stupidity by mocking him.

So you were trolling?

I think it is more accurate to call it "mocking", since I am not posting something simply for the reaction.

 

[hipeter924]

I am a lifelong southerner as well. And I am proud to be an American citizen. I am proud to have served to protect our nation. Which is why I am glad the south lost the war.

Otherwise, everyone would be so ignorant as to think all blacks were only 3/5 human.

And that women were only worth 1/2 of the worth of a man.

 

[WinterBorn]

Umm....my understanding of American history is fine. I was not saying that blacks are 3/5 of a human. Steve McGarrett is the one who made that claim. I said "...everyone would be so ignorant as to think all blacks were only 3/5 human". And by so doing I was calling those who believe that ignorant.

And while we are discussing the topic, you might also be aware that the 3/5 was not about blacks, but about slaves. Free blacks counted as a whole person.

So don't bother correcting me, since I am actually speaking the truth. Concentrate on the racist morons who try and claim that blacks are only 3/5 human.

Well then your knowledge of history is sorely lacking. No one says that blacks are 3/5 human. That is contemporary revisionist history.

Back when they were trying to get the constitution ratified, the southern states wanted their slaves counted in their population in order to have more influence in congress. But slaves couldn't vote so the framers refused. The compromise that was hammered out in order to keep the union from falling apart was to count the 3/5ths of the slaves population as citizens of those states. Nothing was ever stated about them being only 3/5 human. That is nonsense.

Indeed it is nonsense. Which is why I have never said it. I only mocked the person who did say it. Steve McGarrett has said that blacks are only 3/5 human. I corrected him then and I am mocking him now.

You said: "I'm glad the South lost the war. Otherwise everyone would be so ignorant as to think that blacks were only 3/5 human."

Yes I did.

I am glad the south lost the war. And otherwise (if they had won) people would be so ignorant as to believe..yada yada yada.

But the south did not win, and most people are not so ignorant as to believe blacks are only 3/5 of a person.

But they didn't believe that before the war, so your whole point breaks down unless you actually believe they did.

Or unless I was mocking the OP.

 

[Osomir]

* Alcohol Awareness Month

Isn't this the same thing as Confederate History month?

 

[Publius1787]

Well then your knowledge of history is sorely lacking. No one says that blacks are 3/5 human. That is contemporary revisionist history.

Back when they were trying to get the constitution ratified, the southern states wanted their slaves counted in their population in order to have more influence in congress. But slaves couldn't vote so the framers refused. The compromise that was hammered out in order to keep the union from falling apart was to count the 3/5ths of the slaves population as citizens of those states. Nothing was ever stated about them being only 3/5 human. That is nonsense.

Indeed it is nonsense. Which is why I have never said it. I only mocked the person who did say it. Steve McGarrett has said that blacks are only 3/5 human. I corrected him then and I am mocking him now.

You said: "I'm glad the South lost the war. Otherwise everyone would be so ignorant as to think that blacks were only 3/5 human."

Yes I did.

I am glad the south lost the war. And otherwise (if they had won) people would be so ignorant as to believe..yada yada yada.

But the south did not win, and most people are not so ignorant as to believe blacks are only 3/5 of a person.

The question is who is so ignorant as to believe blacks were 3/5th of a person? Or, who believed blacks were 3/5th of a person? Who exactly are you arguing against? You think if the South had won the war people would have thought that blacks were 3/5ths of a person? What evidence do you have?

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

 

[WinterBorn]

Indeed it is nonsense. Which is why I have never said it. I only mocked the person who did say it. Steve McGarrett has said that blacks are only 3/5 human. I corrected him then and I am mocking him now.

You said: "I'm glad the South lost the war. Otherwise everyone would be so ignorant as to think that blacks were only 3/5 human."

Yes I did.

I am glad the south lost the war. And otherwise (if they had won) people would be so ignorant as to believe..yada yada yada.

But the south did not win, and most people are not so ignorant as to believe blacks are only 3/5 of a person.

The question is who is so ignorant as to believe blacks were 3/5th of a person? Or, who believed blacks were 3/5th of a person? Who exactly are you arguing against? You think if the South had won the war people would have thought that blacks were 3/5ths of a person? What evidence do you have?

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Indeed it is nonsense. Which is why I have never said it. I only mocked the person who did say it. Steve McGarrett has said that blacks are only 3/5 human. I corrected him then and I am mocking him now.

You said: "I'm glad the South lost the war. Otherwise everyone would be so ignorant as to think that blacks were only 3/5 human."

Yes I did.

I am glad the south lost the war. And otherwise (if they had won) people would be so ignorant as to believe..yada yada yada.

But the south did not win, and most people are not so ignorant as to believe blacks are only 3/5 of a person.

The question is who is so ignorant as to believe blacks were 3/5th of a person? Or, who believed blacks were 3/5th of a person? Who exactly are you arguing against? You think if the South had won the war people would have thought that blacks were 3/5ths of a person? What evidence do you have?

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

Careful, he's a reporting troll. He baits then reports when he gets smacked around

 

[Publius1787]

You said: "I'm glad the South lost the war. Otherwise everyone would be so ignorant as to think that blacks were only 3/5 human."

Yes I did.

I am glad the south lost the war. And otherwise (if they had won) people would be so ignorant as to believe..yada yada yada.

But the south did not win, and most people are not so ignorant as to believe blacks are only 3/5 of a person.

The question is who is so ignorant as to believe blacks were 3/5th of a person? Or, who believed blacks were 3/5th of a person? Who exactly are you arguing against? You think if the South had won the war people would have thought that blacks were 3/5ths of a person? What evidence do you have?

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

 

[WinterBorn]

You said: "I'm glad the South lost the war. Otherwise everyone would be so ignorant as to think that blacks were only 3/5 human."

Yes I did.

I am glad the south lost the war. And otherwise (if they had won) people would be so ignorant as to believe..yada yada yada.

But the south did not win, and most people are not so ignorant as to believe blacks are only 3/5 of a person.

The question is who is so ignorant as to believe blacks were 3/5th of a person? Or, who believed blacks were 3/5th of a person? Who exactly are you arguing against? You think if the South had won the war people would have thought that blacks were 3/5ths of a person? What evidence do you have?

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

Careful, he's a reporting troll. He baits then reports when he gets smacked around

Like you were reported when you went ballistic about being called what you called someone else?

If I get reported for what I have posted here, so be it. If that gets me banned, I won't have lost much.

 

[Publius1787]

You said: "I'm glad the South lost the war. Otherwise everyone would be so ignorant as to think that blacks were only 3/5 human."

Yes I did.

I am glad the south lost the war. And otherwise (if they had won) people would be so ignorant as to believe..yada yada yada.

But the south did not win, and most people are not so ignorant as to believe blacks are only 3/5 of a person.

The question is who is so ignorant as to believe blacks were 3/5th of a person? Or, who believed blacks were 3/5th of a person? Who exactly are you arguing against? You think if the South had won the war people would have thought that blacks were 3/5ths of a person? What evidence do you have?

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

Careful, he's a reporting troll. He baits then reports when he gets smacked around

Indeed. I'll let Emperor Palpatine sum him up for us.

 

[WinterBorn]

Yes I did.

I am glad the south lost the war. And otherwise (if they had won) people would be so ignorant as to believe..yada yada yada.

But the south did not win, and most people are not so ignorant as to believe blacks are only 3/5 of a person.

The question is who is so ignorant as to believe blacks were 3/5th of a person? Or, who believed blacks were 3/5th of a person? Who exactly are you arguing against? You think if the South had won the war people would have thought that blacks were 3/5ths of a person? What evidence do you have?

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

 

[Publius1787]

The question is who is so ignorant as to believe blacks were 3/5th of a person? Or, who believed blacks were 3/5th of a person? Who exactly are you arguing against? You think if the South had won the war people would have thought that blacks were 3/5ths of a person? What evidence do you have?

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

The question is who is so ignorant as to believe blacks were 3/5th of a person? Or, who believed blacks were 3/5th of a person? Who exactly are you arguing against? You think if the South had won the war people would have thought that blacks were 3/5ths of a person? What evidence do you have?

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

So the OP is on Confederate Memorial Day and you talk about the 3/5ths compromise to mock someone. How is that not trolling again?

 

[G.T.]

Slavery is evidence that our founders, the ones who owned slaves anyhow, were very flawed philosophical men.

 

[WinterBorn]

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

Exactly what part of "I am mocking Steve McGarrett" is not clear? He believes it, since he has used it in an argument at least 2 or 3 times.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

So the OP is on Confederate Memorial Day and you talk about the 3/5ths compromise to mock someone. How is that not trolling again?

Because I was mocking his racist beliefs. Which extend to the celebration of the confederacy.

If you choose to think that what I am doing is trolling, feel free to report it. Your continued harassment of me over this simple mocking post could be considered trolling as well, couldn't it? I have explained what I did and why I did it. I see no reason for continuing to do so.

 

[Publius1787]

Slavery is evidence that our founders, the ones who owned slaves anyhow, were very flawed philosophical men.

You know a man who was not flawed? Or perhaps a system that you did not need to work within?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Slavery is evidence that our founders, the ones who owned slaves anyhow, were very flawed philosophical men.

You know a man who was not flawed?

Jesus

 

[Publius1787]

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

I got it. you were trolling? Right?

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

So the OP is on Confederate Memorial Day and you talk about the 3/5ths compromise to mock someone. How is that not trolling again?

Because I was mocking his racist beliefs. Which extend to the celebration of the confederacy.

If you choose to think that what I am doing is trolling, feel free to report it. Your continued harassment of me over this simple mocking post could be considered trolling as well, couldn't it? I have explained what I did and why I did it. I see no reason for continuing to do so.

Letting the troll know he's a troll isn't trolling. Mocking someone unrelated to the op is trolling.

 

[G.T.]

Slavery is evidence that our founders, the ones who owned slaves anyhow, were very flawed philosophical men.

You know a man who was not flawed? Or perhaps a system that you did not need to work within?

I know that some flaws are far more egregious than others.

Slavery is right up there with rape. Kinda worse, if the rape victim survives.

 

[WinterBorn]

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

No. Trolling is purposefully posting to get a reaction. I was mocking a single individual for his racist nonsense. There is a difference.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

So the OP is on Confederate Memorial Day and you talk about the 3/5ths compromise to mock someone. How is that not trolling again?

Because I was mocking his racist beliefs. Which extend to the celebration of the confederacy.

If you choose to think that what I am doing is trolling, feel free to report it. Your continued harassment of me over this simple mocking post could be considered trolling as well, couldn't it? I have explained what I did and why I did it. I see no reason for continuing to do so.

Letting the troll know he's a troll isn't trolling. Mocking someone unrelated to the op is trolling.

So you have said. I disagree.

 

[Publius1787]

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

In a completely unrelated thread? That's called trolling. If I were to follow you around the forum and nag about you on an unrelated topic you posted and diverted the topic to something else you would call it trolling and hijacking.

No, as a matter of fact I would not. And the two threads are not unrelated. But point to overt racism. I respond by mocking them.

So the OP is on Confederate Memorial Day and you talk about the 3/5ths compromise to mock someone. How is that not trolling again?

Because I was mocking his racist beliefs. Which extend to the celebration of the confederacy.

If you choose to think that what I am doing is trolling, feel free to report it. Your continued harassment of me over this simple mocking post could be considered trolling as well, couldn't it? I have explained what I did and why I did it. I see no reason for continuing to do so.

Letting the troll know he's a troll isn't trolling. Mocking someone unrelated to the op is trolling.

So you have said. I disagree.

No you don't, you just disagree when you do it. You report others for it.